Not more milita stuff since milita stuff is as good as basic

Take the milita forge gun 1200 damage and can easily destroy a gunlogi because ive done it

Milita weapons basically stop players from skilling up into the proper varients because they are very good as they are, espc with AV no need to skill up past basic or if your super lazy stick with milita and just hammer away at it and you will get it anyways

I think this would defeat the purpose of buying guns. Maybe i would only like this idea if ccp added more guns that you need to buy with ISK and AUR. For example, they should start you out with the shotgun, and there are other shotguns ( pump action, fully atto) that you have to buyin the marketplace.

Let's see... so long as it's not BPO vehicles, I think we're OK. (man, the E3 build was a painful one balance-wise)

Also, the militia LR would have to overheat somewhat faster - otherwise the already-problematic QQ will be in biblical proportions, drowning anybody who stopped to get their tear vial out.

I lean towards a no, with the missile launcher, sniper, and AR all players start with, they can handle any threat including and up to tanks and dropships (that people buy for quite a pretty penny of isk)

millita gear should also be less effective than tech 1.

Being able to handle any threat is not the point of this request, please read the original post.

I still think all millita gear should not be free only the suits we have currently, pay to play, its still cheaper than stuff that actually requires SP investment, half price is good. You can experiment (but not keep forever) with just about anything with a portion of the proceeds of one match with free millita gear, or a fraction if you are using anything other than the dropships or HAV.

Actually no, militia weapons do generally have the same damage as standard, but they have higher fitting requirements, and frequently less ammo per magazine.
Militia laser rifles, mass drivers, etc could have smaller clip size, less total ammo, and higher fitting requirements (like all militia items) to motivate players to skill up to standard and above. If that isn't enough, being killed by advanced and prototype users will do the trick.
I don't see why its ok for some weapons to have militia variants while its not ok for others.

Players get militia ARs and SMGs, but you still see people running around with GEK ARs and Toxin SMGs.

Totally redone the original post

I don't know how good of an idea this is.

It's great that it benefits newbies and let's them understand the bearings and uses of suits.

But giving the newbies that much headway kind of obscures the point that they should use their own devices to discover what works because no one is exactly alike. The 4 basics are just the tips of the tree. Where on from then is up to the player.

Incorporating more branches to the tree at the very start may shorten the life of discovery is all that I'm saying.

You make a very good point, but I think its worth it; its just militia stuff after all, and those suits can't really fit much. There would still be a lot of opportunity for players to experiment with their fittings once they skill up to get higher tier suits with more slots and PG/CPU.

(before you reply back, yes I read the entire thread) This seems like a good idea on paper, but if you think about i, this idea starts to have problems. You see, this would mean if the bluedots figure out how to restock, they would never ave to change their kit out. They would just keep on restocking those kits, and never have to skill up. The only way to fix this is to nerf militia items, like how they nerfed militia vehicles (and just about every other part of the vehicles). They need to learn that it's a necessity to get out of militia stuff, otherwise the most used gun and kit will be the starter AR kit.

I'm not totally against this idea but think if something like this were implemented it would have to be limited in some more overarching manner - maybe you can only use militia gear (including BPOs) when below 1 million SP (or maybe higher, would need balancing). Or perhaps there could be special training zones for militia gear but can not be used in normal pub matches.