I think, in fairness, SPs (50SPs) for a kill should always be awarded. Then I wouldn't care about any caps, and I'd hope it would make everyone pause and accept SP caps if you are against them. I'd think it was a fair and reasonable compromise. You would still reward skill and being good at the game, and keep diminishing returns to combat tasks. To me, that seems a good fit.

This has become a vast topic on here so if someone has brought this up, sorry I didn't find it on search.

oh, and don't nerf las0rz.

That is all.

We've talked about this, while I agree.

Most of the current closed beta players are the weekenders, and are very worried about being left behind sp wise, also you'll get complaints from those who do not get very many WP's per game or kills. Which I find totally flawed punishing the good players and the ones who contribute their playing throughout the week even for couple hours per day.


And Ty for the laser comment, its my baby, not because its OP, but because its different and not common on the field.
Which is why I love it

You don't get SPs for kills, you get SPs from a sliding scale based on where your in that battle placed you relative to your teammates.

WPs are not directly connected to SPs (yet and hopefully ever) because there would be no way for new players to ever get SPs.

You don't get SPs for kills, you get SPs from a sliding scale based on where your in that battle placed you relative to your teammates.

WPs are not directly connected to SPs (yet and hopefully ever) because there would be no way for new players to ever get SPs.

This is inaccurate the current way SP is (are?) awarded is as follows

1WP = 1SP

5 sec in game = 1SP

So yes they are directly connected the longer a game lasts the more SP you earn the better you do in said match the more SP you earn.

Bite me, CoD Boi.

The thing you are actually preaching for exists you just don't understand it yet. It is called WP and you get 50 each and every single Kitten Eating time you Murder/Death/Kill an opposing Merc.

SP means nothing related to actual Skill. It is a method of determining how much experience you have gained of late. Normally called XP in many RPG games. It has a cap for a variety of reasons, none of which are important to this discussion.

You just need look at the leader boards where Kills and WP are shown. All of them. Every single one. Unless it gets wiped.

Oddly enough, to you anyway, SP is not shown as that is a very different metric.

Wtf are u going on about? I've played eve since day 1 Broskies. I understand sp and how it works. No one gives 2 ***** who has the most WP's at the moment, more about kdr, and since ccp announced they're looking into doing exactly what I said, maybe u should get with the program.

I think, in fairness, SPs (50SPs) for a kill should always be awarded. Then I wouldn't care about any caps, and I'd hope it would make everyone pause and accept SP caps if you are against them. I'd think it was a fair and reasonable compromise. You would still reward skill and being good at the game, and keep diminishing returns to combat tasks. To me, that seems a good fit.

This has become a vast topic on here so if someone has brought this up, sorry I didn't find it on search.

oh, and don't nerf las0rz.

That is all.

I was responding to the OP. That was basically a CoD whiner not understanding how the system currently works. K/DR is the only thing that matters to that level of pond scum.

Rewarding only kills while not rewarding everything else does not, in fact, reward skill. It rewards killing skill, which is absolutely no reason to be the most/only skill type rewarded in a tactical team based game like Dust.
Capping everyone who isn't a "slayer" is a game breaking idea which renders all other aspects of play into a second class that with mechanically lag behind. Spawns, hacks, AV, revives, repairs, et al are every bit as valid as shooting an assault guy in the face. From the perspective of someone who isn't just an 'assault AR guy' this is not a good fit, this is a worse fit than either the current system or a completely cap free system. It is in fact game breaking in that it crushes the rock, scissors, paper modality of Dust in favor of a straight up slaughter fest which is inferior game making.

I do tend to agree with you regarding some form of cap not being bad per se (I'm looking at you pool/rollover system) and I completely agree regarding lasers (and that's coming from someone who spec'ed deep into them before the wipe but may not even pick them up until I've gone proto with 2-3 other weapons this build.

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