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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:42:00 -
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Well the day is here and I have announced that IGÇÖm running for CSM8 in hopes DUST 514 has at least one representative on the counsel this year. I am asking for the support of every merc in this community to back me in my decision and make sure we have enough votes to get one of our own through.
Please take the time to log on your EVE Account (if you happen to have one) and place a GÇ£LIKEGÇ¥ along with your support for DUST on my thread found here
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197054&find=unread
Thank you for your time and support
Sincerely, ZionShad
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:45:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=52695&find=unread
How about a statement in this thread first Shad, would really help your public image around here. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:46:00 -
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^What he said. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:49:00 -
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LOL |
MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:51:00 -
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Not going to happen for you. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1041
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:52:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Well the day is here and I have announced that IGÇÖm running for CSM8 in hopes DUST 514 has at least one representative on the counsel this year. I am asking for the support of every merc in this community to back me in my decision and make sure we have enough votes to get one of our own through. Please take the time to log on your EVE Account (if you happen to have one) and place a GÇ£LIKEGÇ¥ along with your support for DUST on my thread found here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197054&find=unreadThank you for your time and support Sincerely, ZionShad
Eve thinks your a joke and dust mercs can't vote. At least the real slimshaddy has finally shown his hand |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:56:00 -
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lol, no. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
788
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:57:00 -
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Personally, I think you shouldn't waste your time. You haven't been playing eve long enough to contribute positively there (You started playing eve what... four weeks ago?) and I don't feel Dust has any business being on the EVE CSM.
If CCP really wants to make CSM magic with dust, they need their own representative body. Trying to mix both games into one CSM would be horrible for both games.
If you really want to make a positive contribution, you should be pushing for dust to have its own representative body with me.
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uruz7 fish
FDF Industries Hedonistic Imperative
108
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:58:00 -
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I'll vote for you, just cuz no one else will, doesn't mean i believe in you or that i believe you will get it, but mostly in the hope it annoys beers. |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:58:00 -
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And to think that you could not embarrass yourself any further.....LOL |
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:02:00 -
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How much ISK do I get for my vote? |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:03:00 -
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Sorry bro, probably gonna be backing Twostep again, he has done good work the last two years. |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:04:00 -
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Wow. You imperfects are evil and harsh. Im all for you Shad. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
335
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:07:00 -
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No disrespect to you or your corp.
My vote is no. |
MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:08:00 -
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And still no response in his own thread?
How can any one want to have you as some leader when it seems you are all about yourself? I know why so many left now. |
Happy Violentime
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:11:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:How much ISK do I get for my vote?
There isn't enough in the whole of EVE
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psyanyde
CrimeWave Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:11:00 -
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place a GÇ£LIKEGÇ¥ along with your support for DUST on my thread<<<
This forum really needs a dislike button.
Also I see everyone's nos and raise a f**k no. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
317
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:21:00 -
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Sorry its a no from me, i have heard and seen to many bad things regarding yourself, you seem to only think about yourself a very self obsessed ego maniac.
Not very good characteristics for a CSM
I would vote for a Zitro before i voted for Zionshad |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
634
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:22:00 -
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I don't endorse cheaters. |
Omnipotent Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
156
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:24:00 -
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You would make a terrible representative for Dust! All you are doing is making Dust players and the community look like a joke to EVE!
If you were here for the community for both games, you wouldn't openly exploit the FW system for ISK!
You played your cards to early son!
Have fun getting politically ripped apart EVE and Dust side. |
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MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:26:00 -
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BLAMMMM......., THUD! The sound of your hopes and dreams.
Then crickets.......... nothing more to say to rebuild your standing?
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Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:26:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:Sorry its a no from me, i have heard and seen to many bad things regarding yourself, you seem to only think about yourself a very self obsessed ego maniac.
Not very good characteristics for a CSM
I would vote for a Zitro before i voted for Zionshad I love your support but I would vote for Jesse before chad! |
Omnipotent Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
156
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:27:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:Sorry its a no from me, i have heard and seen to many bad things regarding yourself, you seem to only think about yourself a very self obsessed ego maniac.
Not very good characteristics for a CSM
I would vote for a Zitro before i voted for Zionshad I would vote for The Dark Cloud before Zion. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1041
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:28:00 -
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uruz7 fish wrote:I'll vote for you, just cuz no one else will, doesn't mean i believe in you or that i believe you will get it, but mostly in the hope it annoys beers.
you are good people uruz7. I'm still laughing at your post 20 minutes later. |
THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:29:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Sir Meode wrote:Sorry its a no from me, i have heard and seen to many bad things regarding yourself, you seem to only think about yourself a very self obsessed ego maniac.
Not very good characteristics for a CSM
I would vote for a Zitro before i voted for Zionshad I love your support but I would vote for sha before chad
Yes Sha........ wait he seems kinda sneaky.....
But you know the good kinda sneaky, the one you want to take on a panty raid. |
sargeant mike wolfe
Doomheim
6
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:30:00 -
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Hey Zion you got my vote on this. Plus here's +1 for luck |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:31:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Sir Meode wrote:Sorry its a no from me, i have heard and seen to many bad things regarding yourself, you seem to only think about yourself a very self obsessed ego maniac.
Not very good characteristics for a CSM
I would vote for a Zitro before i voted for Zionshad I love your support but I would vote for sha before chad Yes Sha........ wait he seems kinda sneaky..... But you know the good kinda sneaky, the one you want to take on a panty raid. Sha is a Ninja which is cool but I hate Jesse ( my idea of pure trash) did I mention I'm a garbage man! |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
300
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:32:00 -
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lol no, Just no. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
215
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:34:00 -
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And now we know the real rationale behind ZIon recruitment standards. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
9
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:35:00 -
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next thing you know, people will be voting for him as a goof!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NyvYwfZR38 |
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Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:36:00 -
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Wait a year or two before you make Dust-EVE integration the basis of a CSM platform. The game is a long way off from such an issue even being a priority for CCP. Right now their clear focus is getting the game finished. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:37:00 -
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Zion unites Imps and SI due to their dislike for him.. This is indeed a glorious day and deserves celebration. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:43:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Zion unites Imps and SI due to their dislike for him.. This is indeed a glorious day and deserves celebration. Glad someone can see some good from this lol |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:45:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:Sorry bro, probably gonna be backing Twostep again, he has done good work the last two years.
He has done pretty well hasn't he. I bet Mittens makes it again though. |
Mars El'Theran
Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness
52
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:49:00 -
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Given I've been trolled by members of Zion TCD on these forums, and had the most pleasant of discussion with them, my answer is no.
Else, I'd probably consider it. Don't feel bad though, because I probably wouldn't consider it to seriously at this stage. |
MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:52:00 -
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This posts timing was horrible seeing how there has been so much heat on Zion himself.
For someone who is to represent the pulse of the community it really feels more of arrogance and self centererness. And someone who is not even up on today's dust current events.
And the very lack of a response in either thread going on the third page just seems a bit week!
Post a reply Zion even your members want some answers. This really wreaks of someone who could care less about anything but themselves. If I was in Zion I would want a refund |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:55:00 -
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MR-NASTY wrote:This posts timing was horrible seeing how there has been so much heat on Zion himself.
For someone who is to represent the pulse of the community it really feels more of arrogance and self centererness. And someone who is not even up on today's dust current events.
And the very lack of a response in either thread going on the third page just seems a bit week!
Post a reply Zion even your members want some answers. This really wreaks of someone who could care less about anything but themselves. If I was in Zion I would want a refund He bought us all with t-shirts and mouse pads. We couldn't say no. They had CCP's logo on 'em!
lol I expect Shad to fix this eventually. He deserves this heat though. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1041
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:58:00 -
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MR-NASTY wrote:This posts timing was horrible seeing how there has been so much heat on Zion himself.
For someone who is to represent the pulse of the community it really feels more of arrogance and self centererness. And someone who is not even up on today's dust current events.
And the very lack of a response in either thread going on the third page just seems a bit week!
Post a reply Zion even your members want some answers. This really wreaks of someone who could care less about anything but themselves. If I was in Zion I would want a refund
Here have all my likes. |
MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.01.24 02:11:00 -
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So he is just a "hit it and quit it "kinda guy.
He makes A look at me I'm special post.
Then uh oh ... I actually need to say something but I better not get involved if I ignore it they will go away. 'Cause I'm a nice guy"
I'm sure the excuse will be legendary when we get it....... "oh I was washing my little pony's hair"
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uruz7 fish
FDF Industries Hedonistic Imperative
108
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Posted - 2013.01.24 02:13:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:uruz7 fish wrote:I'll vote for you, just cuz no one else will, doesn't mean i believe in you or that i believe you will get it, but mostly in the hope it annoys beers. you are good people uruz7. I'm still laughing at your post 20 minutes later.
the only thing i am is honest
ps nova is a bot |
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Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.24 02:35:00 -
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Zion running for the CSM doesnt exactly fill me with girlish delight. Maybe when he grows up and quits being a reactionary. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1041
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Posted - 2013.01.24 02:37:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Zion running for the CSM doesnt exactly fill me with girlish delight. Maybe when he grows up and quits being a reactionary.
or maybe when he actually plays the game instead of just be head of voting block that actually can't vote. I feel sorry for the zion tcd members they don't deserve a leader that just uses them.
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Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2013.01.24 02:45:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:Sorry bro, probably gonna be backing Twostep again, he has done good work the last two years.
According to Jester Trek blog, Two step isn't running. Neither is Hans, who recently posted on these forums. Here's the list of CSM7 who has publicly stated they aren't standing for CSM8.
http://jestertrek.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/csm7-incumbents.html |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.01.24 03:03:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Zion Shad wrote:Well the day is here and I have announced that IGÇÖm running for CSM8 in hopes DUST 514 has at least one representative on the counsel this year. I am asking for the support of every merc in this community to back me in my decision and make sure we have enough votes to get one of our own through. Please take the time to log on your EVE Account (if you happen to have one) and place a GÇ£LIKEGÇ¥ along with your support for DUST on my thread found here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197054&find=unreadThank you for your time and support Sincerely, ZionShad Eve thinks your a joke and dust mercs can't vote. At least the real slimshaddy has finally shown his hand
i like u, u want to be my freind? u no respond to me last timez |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
153
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Posted - 2013.01.24 03:30:00 -
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Sorry, but... A responsible person would reply here even once. Also, considering certain previous events... My vote is no.
SoTa PoP wrote:MR-NASTY wrote:This posts timing was horrible seeing how there has been so much heat on Zion himself.
For someone who is to represent the pulse of the community it really feels more of arrogance and self centererness. And someone who is not even up on today's dust current events.
And the very lack of a response in either thread going on the third page just seems a bit week!
Post a reply Zion even your members want some answers. This really wreaks of someone who could care less about anything but themselves. If I was in Zion I would want a refund He bought us all with t-shirts and mouse pads. We couldn't say no. They had CCP's logo on 'em! lol I expect Shad to fix this eventually. He deserves this heat though.
Those mousepads actually stank with something poisonous, so I didn't even apply. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
37
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Posted - 2013.01.24 06:08:00 -
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So mr dickrider is running for big wig position? Quoting the mighty Alphaomegasin: "**** no, shut fhe **** up, go away, drop dead, come back to life, get impaled on the nearest rhino dickhole first and catch on fire".
Really dude the only ones who would vote for you, would be numbnuts like SoLJae, and that on to itself its pathetic. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.01.24 07:35:00 -
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I'll be voting for Kain |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.01.24 08:33:00 -
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slap26 wrote:I'll be voting for Kain
I can honestly think of no one better. |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2013.01.24 09:18:00 -
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If I have a vote he has mine |
Yay Adski
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
133
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:06:00 -
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Kain Kain he's our man if he can't do it, there's no chance in hell zionshad can. GOOOOOO KAIN |
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Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
349
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:10:00 -
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sorry guys but you are all copying me - I have always said kain for csm. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION
269
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:33:00 -
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All these replies are pretty much nonsense as far as I can tell, from what I can gleam from the forums you tried to contact the guy who made some event when CCP contacted you about it and he said he couldn't make it. Now he is mad that he didn't pay more attention to what you said to him, and everyone expects you ignore CCP when they contact you and tell them to talk to someone else instead?
Anyways I assume all the hate is about that since it's mostly imperfect members posting multiple times about how you suck. You however should explain it because the whole situation seems to really have people fired up for some reason and I'm not sure I even understand what happened because there are a lot of conflicting statements on threads from different people. |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
349
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:58:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:All these replies are pretty much nonsense as far as I can tell, from what I can gleam from the forums you tried to contact the guy who made some event when CCP contacted you about it and he said he couldn't make it. Now he is mad that he didn't pay more attention to what you said to him, and everyone expects you ignore CCP when they contact you and tell them to talk to someone else instead?
Anyways I assume all the hate is about that since it's mostly imperfect members posting multiple times about how you suck. You however should explain it because the whole situation seems to really have people fired up for some reason and I'm not sure I even understand what happened because there are a lot of conflicting statements on threads from different people.
actually far from it, zion has always come across as self serving. The podcasts, this thread, the event he posted but never turned up to and other methods of handling stuff.
I want kain to consider being CSM because through the betamax seperation he remained unbiased, made active attempts with jenza to keep it cool, the dust ob even is just a thing, it's his character, and nature about him that makes him a good representative. He knows what he's talking about and not just blurting out what ever sounds good at the time.
Kain is a great "gamer", his logic is sound in the occasions I've spoken with him and his opinion is unbiased and open to change when enough valid points are raised, he's not afraid to admit when he's wrong and when he is it's not morally, important or even over something serious. He's played dust since the beginning and actively contributed to the feedback forums, general discussion, irc channel and public in game channels.
His experience in EVE is over 7 years now and although I don't know his reputation over there, if it's anything like over here, I would assume it is positive (I will be joining the eve community soon to find out!)
I know he's an imperfect and my choice is completely biased because of my experiences with him (there are a lot of good people in the community that I've come across) but none are as balanced as kain is when I look for values as a csm representative.
I consider kain to bring constructive feedback, logical answers to problems, an open mind to others opinions, the consideration of the micro environment as well as the macro on any changes the csm discusses in both time and depth and above all - generate a conclusion on the communities requirements and not his own.
please note that kain is a director of imperfects, but he wasn't a director of betamax, which was when I decided I wanted to vote for him.
Anyway - I'm gonna have a word with kain about him going forward for a csm position. We'll be at Fanfest this year so to those that are going, you'll get first hand experience of chatting to him :) |
Darko Dragneel
Doomheim
4
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:21:00 -
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Omnipotent Zitro wrote:Sir Meode wrote:Sorry its a no from me, i have heard and seen to many bad things regarding yourself, you seem to only think about yourself a very self obsessed ego maniac.
Not very good characteristics for a CSM
I would vote for a Zitro before i voted for Zionshad I would vote for The Dark Cloud before Zion. DC as CSM thats the best thing can ever happen in New Eaden |
Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION
269
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:28:00 -
[55] - Quote
Thank you for presenting some reasonable chat in this thread. I was getting pretty sick of the hate speech. It seems like there are a lot of people from different corps that have a lot of respect for Kain. I've not heard much about him myself, I mostly just keep up with the Corp rankings and not their structure or leaders.
While I admit I often find Imperfect members being some of the most vocally outspoken and sometimes just disrespectful forum posters, I do have a lot of respect for your groups skill and leadership. Anyone who puts together the top corporation (for the beta tourny)* is clearly very adept at leading.
I'll reserve my votes until I know who exactly is running, and can compare the candidates.
*As not to offend anyone haha |
Happy Violentime
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:45:00 -
[56] - Quote
Captain-Awesome wrote:actually far from it, zion has always come across as self serving. The podcasts, this thread, the event he posted but never turned up to and other methods of handling stuff.
I want kain to consider being CSM because through the betamax seperation he remained unbiased, made active attempts with jenza to keep it cool, the dust ob even is just a thing, it's his character, and nature about him that makes him a good representative. He knows what he's talking about and not just blurting out what ever sounds good at the time.
Kain is a great "gamer", his logic is sound in the occasions I've spoken with him and his opinion is unbiased and open to change when enough valid points are raised, he's not afraid to admit when he's wrong and when he is it's not morally, important or even over something serious. He's played dust since the beginning and actively contributed to the feedback forums, general discussion, irc channel and public in game channels.
His experience in EVE is over 7 years now and although I don't know his reputation over there, if it's anything like over here, I would assume it is positive (I will be joining the eve community soon to find out!)
I know he's an imperfect and my choice is completely biased because of my experiences with him (there are a lot of good people in the community that I've come across) but none are as balanced as kain is when I look for values as a csm representative.
I consider kain to bring constructive feedback, logical answers to problems, an open mind to others opinions, the consideration of the micro environment as well as the macro on any changes the csm discusses in both time and depth and above all - generate a conclusion on the communities requirements and not his own.
please note that kain is a director of imperfects, but he wasn't a director of betamax, which was when I decided I wanted to vote for him.
Anyway - I'm gonna have a word with kain about him going forward for a csm position. We'll be at Fanfest this year so to those that are going, you'll get first hand experience of chatting to him :)
So... all this **** talking of Shad is so you can position your own guy for CSM?
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Ninjanomyx
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
16
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:18:00 -
[57] - Quote
I find this Thread difficult to fap to :( -1000 Likes |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
349
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:18:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:So... all this **** talking of Shad is so you can position your own guy for CSM?
far from it, kain hasn't even considered voting for csm. I just want the best person for the job there. If kain knows someone better then I'd trust his decision, but for me kain is a logical option (putting the obvious bias aside.
I'm not saying anything bad against shad, but the arguements above are there for a reason. it's not just imperfects there (although I must admit as a corp it is being very vocal about it).
If you want my opinion the following should go forward:
Kain Spero Nova Knife Grideris Ironwolf (if he is allowed?)
I put kain because of my experiences with him, what he's done for the community despite the community showing (justified) absolute hate for the corporation he's in yet still showing unbiased, mature responses to any threads he posts in. If beers is the bad cop, kain is definitely the good cop.
I put nova knife because he's one of the obvious choices - he's constantly writting essays upon essays of threads how to help ccp improve their game, does cast514, irc operator, helps run dust514.org and is a very sound guy, but I think his ties to ccp are too close for comfort and the community needs someone more connected to the game than the politics of community >< ccp
Grideris is the same as nova but with a little more bias, still a great choice
ironwolf again but closer ties to ccp
I'm sure shad will get votes from his corp... but I think it will end there. |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
349
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:22:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Thank you for presenting some reasonable chat in this thread. I was getting pretty sick of the hate speech. It seems like there are a lot of people from different corps that have a lot of respect for Kain. I've not heard much about him myself, I mostly just keep up with the Corp rankings and not their structure or leaders.
While I admit I often find Imperfect members being some of the most vocally outspoken and sometimes just disrespectful forum posters, I do have a lot of respect for your groups skill and leadership. Anyone who puts together the top corporation (for the beta tourny)* is clearly very adept at leading.
I'll reserve my votes until I know who exactly is running, and can compare the candidates.
*As not to offend anyone haha
yeah imps are pretty good at jumping on somethin we don't like and killing the thread. Blame bad cop beers :) But I think this thread will at least bring out peoples opinions on who should be a possible candidate to the CSM. Something I've been waiting to talk about for a long time :) as a corp we are a bunch of ass holes who play the most competitive matches in the game, individually we are just like you :) |
Paran Tadec
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Kane actually gives 2 fluffy bunnies about the community, not serving his own interests. Thats just how I see it though. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.01.24 17:58:00 -
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The DUST CSM position is one which would rep the entrie DUST community on a whole host of issues while remaining open minded and unbiased
Zion doesnt meet those requirements due to various events and incidents
Anyways we dont even know if DUST will have a CSM position yet |
Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:02:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:The DUST CSM position is one which would rep the entrie DUST community on a whole host of issues while remaining open minded and unbiased
Zion doesnt meet those requirements due to various events and incidents
Anyways we dont even know if DUST will have a CSM position yet
If CCP has a say in it, I'm sure he'll be your CSM. If the game survives that long.
Edit: ^-- Was sarcasm... cept the game surviving part. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:06:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:The DUST CSM position is one which would rep the entrie DUST community on a whole host of issues while remaining open minded and unbiased
Zion doesnt meet those requirements due to various events and incidents
Anyways we dont even know if DUST will have a CSM position yet If CCP has a say in it, I'm sure he'll be your CSM. If the game survives that long.
Cant
CSM is decided by votes
Granted Zion TCD as a corp is huge but the playerbase will be far bigger in general and its easy enough to put up other players for the seat or simply put a better candidate |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:23:00 -
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I'd offer Iron Wolf or Nova or Grideris. |
DEADPOOL5241
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:28:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:I'd offer Iron Wolf or Nova or Grideris.
Nova, Kain, heck if I had interest in doing it again Id even throw my hat into the mix. But Ive been there, signed the NDA and its really a BS post to make players feel good.
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RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:56:00 -
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Hell no. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.24 19:03:00 -
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I am officially running for CSM - Controversial Sexy Monster. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.24 19:16:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I am officially running for CSM - Controversial Sexy Monster. dude just shut the **** up |
Deadeyes Anterie
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Posted - 2013.01.24 19:26:00 -
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I am also a bit confused about the whole running for CSM as a dust representative. Are we electing someone to the EvE CSM who is then going to only care about looking after Dust? Seems like a heavy handed way of forcing our interests into the EvE universe. Or is there a new spot on the council for a Dust representative?
Either way I thought the voting blocks for CSM elected players were in the thousands, I'm not sure Dust players could drum up enough support to get anyone in even if that was the plan. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:27:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:Sorry bro, probably gonna be backing Twostep again, he has done good work the last two years. He has done pretty well hasn't he. I bet Mittens makes it again though. Mittens can't run this year. Mynnna is stepping up to fill his place and possibly another 2 goons. I'll be running next year i think, i wasn't stupid enough to put my name in the hat this time with Dust being so young, at least i play EVE and have since 08 though so i wouldn't get laughed at half as much as Shad.
What a tool.
Why would anyone at all openly vote for someone who's attempted to abuse an exploit in game for their own advantages? CSM members need much more integrity and much less arrogance than you have Shad. Don't expect to be writing on TM.com for long either because i've spoke to Mynnna about the state of your articles prior to it being proofed. The fact that he had to contact you and ask what your point was says it all really, not to mention that the Dust community wouldn't vote for you based on the light you shine on Dust with your article. You're painting the very community and game you're attempting to campaign for in a very negative light.
School boy error right there along with the others, such as your BURN NEW EDEN movement bullshit (http://dustmercs.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/will-new-eden-burn.html) and the fact that you had to hide behind your Nameless 514 persona to speak your mind because you was too afraid to post your actual opinions on your main for fear of reprisal. Some backbone for politics eh?...
You should ask Hans what the current CSM's thoughts are of you running for CSM. It's pretty darn funny, i couldn't stop laughing.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:37:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote:Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:Sorry bro, probably gonna be backing Twostep again, he has done good work the last two years. He has done pretty well hasn't he. I bet Mittens makes it again though. Mittens can't run this year. Mynnna is stepping up to fill his place and possibly another 2 goons. I'll be running next year i think, i wasn't stupid enough to put my name in the hat this time with Dust being so young, at least i play EVE and have since 08 though so i wouldn't get laughed at half as much as Shad. What a tool. Why would anyone at all openly vote for someone who's attempted to abuse an exploit in game for their own advantages? CSM members need much more integrity and much less arrogance than you have Shad. Don't expect to be writing on TM.com for long either because i've spoke to Mynnna about the state of your articles prior to it being proofed. The fact that he had to contact you and ask what your point was says it all really, not to mention that the Dust community wouldn't vote for you based on the light you shine on Dust with your article. You're painting the very community and game you're attempting to campaign for in a very negative light. School boy error right there along with the others, such as your BURN NEW EDEN movement bullshit (http://dustmercs.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/will-new-eden-burn.html) and the fact that you had to hide behind your Nameless 514 persona to speak your mind because you was too afraid to post your actual opinions on your main for fear of reprisal. Some backbone for politics eh?... You should ask Hans what the current CSM's thoughts are of you running for CSM. It's pretty darn funny, i couldn't stop laughing. These past two days must of been like an adventure to candy land for with all the hate Shad got. Shame you're jumping in after it's all over. Least you can still post on CSM stuff - eh? Keep up the hatin' wouldn't be the same around here without it <3 |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:39:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:I am officially running for CSM - Controversial Sexy Monster. dude just shut the **** up Oh I missed this - don't cross me in public. you got a problem say it in private so I can ignore you properly. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:39:00 -
[73] - Quote
I've been busy with work unfortunately. I've not been able to get online much otherwise I'd have been the first to say "i told you so" |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:41:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:I;ve been busy with work unfortunatly. I've not been able to get online much otherwise i'd have been the first to say "i told you so" And now the line wouldn't have any value. But if you weren't saying it we all knew you were thinking it :P |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:41:00 -
[75] - Quote
Alright, I'm kinda feeling bad for Zion Shad now.
But it is hilarious. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:43:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Alright, I'm kinda feeling bad for Zion Shad now.
But it is hilarious.
I've been telling him for 6 months this would blow up in his face if he attempted it, just search the forums.
But apparently the big bad goons know nothing about running for CSM. We've only managed to run it for the last few years after all. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:45:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Alright, I'm kinda feeling bad for Zion Shad now.
But it is hilarious. I've been telling him for 6 months this would blow up in his face if he attempted it, just search the forums. But apparently the big bad goons know nothing about running for CSM. We've only managed to run it for the last few years after all. I want something clarified to me. by "we" do you mean you were directly involved in a mjor way to a goon getting CSM? |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:48:00 -
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This is still going on? Ha-ha-ha. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:59:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Alright, I'm kinda feeling bad for Zion Shad now.
But it is hilarious. I've been telling him for 6 months this would blow up in his face if he attempted it, just search the forums. But apparently the big bad goons know nothing about running for CSM. We've only managed to run it for the last few years after all. I want something clarified to me. by "we" do you mean you were directly involved in a mjor way to a goon getting CSM?
I use the term "we" in a collective sense. We are goon etc etc.
Nobody will ever know all the pies i have my fingers in however. That's best left to speculation. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:05:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Alright, I'm kinda feeling bad for Zion Shad now.
But it is hilarious. I've been telling him for 6 months this would blow up in his face if he attempted it, just search the forums. But apparently the big bad goons know nothing about running for CSM. We've only managed to run it for the last few years after all. I want something clarified to me. by "we" do you mean you were directly involved in a mjor way to a goon getting CSM? I use the term "we" in a collective sense. We are goon etc etc. Nobody will ever know all the pies i have my fingers in however. That's best left to speculation. You know - if the government ever left things for people to 'speculate' then we'd probably be calling them out on them not knowing what they're actually doing and relying on some obscure involvement to give weight to anything they say."
Just sayin' |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:41:00 -
[81] - Quote
It's a valid point to a degree, depending on what country you're in i guess. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:54:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Nobody will ever know all the pies i have my fingers in however. That's best left to speculation.
So that's why you changed your Twitter profile pic after that round of abuse you got. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:57:00 -
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Yeah, i admit to making a mistake there though. I worked really hard prior to setting up Immobile Infantry to keep my real life and in game persona totally apart. New email address etc etc because i know what the EVE community is like, what i forgot was how childish the FPS community can be. So I missed a photo on the twitter account i re purposed?... The abuse was only childish comments based around a fictional news story with heavily edited content... Unlike ZionShad, i can take a punch though.
At least i can admit when i make a mistake which is more than 90% of this forums population can do. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:11:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Yeah, i admit to making a mistake there though. I worked really hard prior to setting up II to keep my real life and in game persona totally apart. New email address etc etc because i know what the EVE community is like, what i forgot was how childish the FPS community can be.
At least i can admit when i make a mistake which is more than 90% of this forums population can do.
That sir gets you a +1! The most rational non-egotistical thing I can recall seeing you post. Sure Zion's meta attempt to graft himself into a CSM front runner for Dust has been transparent from day one IMHO anyways, but the venom that comes out of those that are dirty themselves for one reason or another is almost funnier. That whole "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" thing. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:20:00 -
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But i'm a CEO of a Dust corp, not being rational and being egotistical is the way to do things right?...
EDIT: And for what it's worth, i have given ZionShad credit for the work he's put into the FW stuff too if i'm honest. Credit where it's due and all.
It's the desperation for the seat on the CSM that bugs the hell out of me and how that's been his driving force in the whole damn beta. If he stuck to the community stuff he could have been as well respected as people like Grid, Nova and Jenza. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:38:00 -
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I wish cult of personality didn't rule New Eden, tried to convince myself that that part of it could be done differently. Zion will take his licks and bounce back, I just hope he's come to understand that his meta Kung-fu ain't all that he thought it was cracked up to be. Agree about the community comment he was in a glorious position to go down that honourable path...but then there's the ego monster. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.25 06:56:00 -
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That was his downfall which is a shame, if he's taken the same route as Jenza et al he'd have had my support. In my dealings with him pre forum war i quite liked him and the dealings i had with him via email etc. It was when his arrogance started to come out and then i got to see just how naive he is about certain aspects of EVE and those are just not quality's that you need in CSM reps.
It's a shame because he could have had something good out of it. His intentions are good it's just his methods that are bad and unfortunately even if he does attempt to run again, all this will come out again on top of the failed attempt where he quit after 48 hours which again, makes it less likely that it will go anywhere. Someone needs to take the spade from him so he stops digging the hole he's in. |
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