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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:10:00 -
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sorry guys but you are all copying me - I have always said kain for csm. |
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:58:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:All these replies are pretty much nonsense as far as I can tell, from what I can gleam from the forums you tried to contact the guy who made some event when CCP contacted you about it and he said he couldn't make it. Now he is mad that he didn't pay more attention to what you said to him, and everyone expects you ignore CCP when they contact you and tell them to talk to someone else instead?
Anyways I assume all the hate is about that since it's mostly imperfect members posting multiple times about how you suck. You however should explain it because the whole situation seems to really have people fired up for some reason and I'm not sure I even understand what happened because there are a lot of conflicting statements on threads from different people.
actually far from it, zion has always come across as self serving. The podcasts, this thread, the event he posted but never turned up to and other methods of handling stuff.
I want kain to consider being CSM because through the betamax seperation he remained unbiased, made active attempts with jenza to keep it cool, the dust ob even is just a thing, it's his character, and nature about him that makes him a good representative. He knows what he's talking about and not just blurting out what ever sounds good at the time.
Kain is a great "gamer", his logic is sound in the occasions I've spoken with him and his opinion is unbiased and open to change when enough valid points are raised, he's not afraid to admit when he's wrong and when he is it's not morally, important or even over something serious. He's played dust since the beginning and actively contributed to the feedback forums, general discussion, irc channel and public in game channels.
His experience in EVE is over 7 years now and although I don't know his reputation over there, if it's anything like over here, I would assume it is positive (I will be joining the eve community soon to find out!)
I know he's an imperfect and my choice is completely biased because of my experiences with him (there are a lot of good people in the community that I've come across) but none are as balanced as kain is when I look for values as a csm representative.
I consider kain to bring constructive feedback, logical answers to problems, an open mind to others opinions, the consideration of the micro environment as well as the macro on any changes the csm discusses in both time and depth and above all - generate a conclusion on the communities requirements and not his own.
please note that kain is a director of imperfects, but he wasn't a director of betamax, which was when I decided I wanted to vote for him.
Anyway - I'm gonna have a word with kain about him going forward for a csm position. We'll be at Fanfest this year so to those that are going, you'll get first hand experience of chatting to him :) |
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Happy Violentime wrote:So... all this **** talking of Shad is so you can position your own guy for CSM?
far from it, kain hasn't even considered voting for csm. I just want the best person for the job there. If kain knows someone better then I'd trust his decision, but for me kain is a logical option (putting the obvious bias aside.
I'm not saying anything bad against shad, but the arguements above are there for a reason. it's not just imperfects there (although I must admit as a corp it is being very vocal about it).
If you want my opinion the following should go forward:
Kain Spero
Nova Knife
Grideris
Ironwolf (if he is allowed?)
I put kain because of my experiences with him, what he's done for the community despite the community showing (justified) absolute hate for the corporation he's in yet still showing unbiased, mature responses to any threads he posts in. If beers is the bad cop, kain is definitely the good cop.
I put nova knife because he's one of the obvious choices - he's constantly writting essays upon essays of threads how to help ccp improve their game, does cast514, irc operator, helps run dust514.org and is a very sound guy, but I think his ties to ccp are too close for comfort and the community needs someone more connected to the game than the politics of community >< ccp
Grideris is the same as nova but with a little more bias, still a great choice
ironwolf again but closer ties to ccp
I'm sure shad will get votes from his corp... but I think it will end there. |
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:22:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Thank you for presenting some reasonable chat in this thread. I was getting pretty sick of the hate speech. It seems like there are a lot of people from different corps that have a lot of respect for Kain. I've not heard much about him myself, I mostly just keep up with the Corp rankings and not their structure or leaders.
While I admit I often find Imperfect members being some of the most vocally outspoken and sometimes just disrespectful forum posters, I do have a lot of respect for your groups skill and leadership. Anyone who puts together the top corporation (for the beta tourny)* is clearly very adept at leading.
I'll reserve my votes until I know who exactly is running, and can compare the candidates.
*As not to offend anyone haha
yeah imps are pretty good at jumping on somethin we don't like and killing the thread. Blame bad cop beers :) But I think this thread will at least bring out peoples opinions on who should be a possible candidate to the CSM. Something I've been waiting to talk about for a long time :) as a corp we are a bunch of ass holes who play the most competitive matches in the game, individually we are just like you :) |
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