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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.23 01:00:00 -
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If you still haven't seen it, here's the link: http://youtu.be/Xnt1tTlnqfY
I've noticed a few odd things in this video, besides the obvious. First, notice that her fitting screen has 3 weapon slots and 2 equipment slots, but no grenades. Later, notice that one assault has a forge gun.
If I notice any more from reviewing the video, I'll post it. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.23 01:01:00 -
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Looks like new NULL cannon models too, as seen on top of the structures in line harvest |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.01.23 01:02:00 -
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Everybody noticed but no one commented ... 2 types of drones, one that resembles infantry and the other needs to take AV damage to go down |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.23 01:03:00 -
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An HAV with a missile turret is also firing 2 missiles at once, instead of salvos |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.01.23 01:27:00 -
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2 light weapons sound awesome as long as its balanced. |
Jeremiah ambromot
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.23 01:39:00 -
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I just wanted to say thank you. I have heard about the drones but this is the first time I have seen them. Anyone else think matrix? |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.23 01:47:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:2 light weapons sound awesome as long as its balanced.
It'd be balanced by the CPU/PG cost. Light weapons are way more demanding than sidearms in terms of CPU/PG.
Also, I hope this means they're making grenades into equipment. That would be a good change. Make people sacrifice a useful tool or whatever in order to fit grenades. Would cut down on the grenade spam a bit. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:31:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:2 light weapons sound awesome as long as its balanced. It'd be balanced by the CPU/PG cost. Light weapons are way more demanding than sidearms in terms of CPU/PG. Also, I hope this means they're making grenades into equipment. That would be a good change. Make people sacrifice a useful tool or whatever in order to fit grenades. Would cut down on the grenade spam a bit. Perhaps they listened to the request that grenades should be selected like equipment. |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:35:00 -
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In all reality thats probably a higher tier suit not like the caldari assault suit we have now. but a second tier... like frigates and cruisers |
Ripcord19981
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:38:00 -
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the most obvious>>>> Own character instead of being in a dropsuit the whole time |
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Tbone322
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:44:00 -
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Jeremiah ambromot wrote:I just wanted to say thank you. I have heard about the drones but this is the first time I have seen them. Anyone else think matrix?
Yep, I can't wait till they're in game |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:51:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:In all reality thats probably a higher tier suit not like the caldari assault suit we have now. but a second tier... like frigates and cruisers
No, it isn't probably that at all. Look at the dropsuit screen again. First of all, it has gold-lined items in its slots. And look at the PG/CPU values. It's a starter dropsuit, not some fancy tier 2 version. The reason it's white is probably because CCP's internal build allows you to customize your armor colour. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:58:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Val'herik Dorn wrote:In all reality thats probably a higher tier suit not like the caldari assault suit we have now. but a second tier... like frigates and cruisers No, it isn't probably that at all. Look at the dropsuit screen again. First of all, it has gold-lined items in its slots. And look at the PG/CPU values. It's a starter dropsuit, not some fancy tier 2 version. The reason it's white is probably because CCP's internal build allows you to customize your armor colour. I don't think it's white, just the lighting.
Also, the fitting is called "assault", and has the assault suit icon. Strange. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:59:00 -
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Wait a second! Pausing at 0:25 showed me the high slots actually have the high slot icon (3 lines, instead of 2). Could this mean medium stuff is incoming? |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:05:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I don't think it's white, just the lighting.
Also, the fitting is called "assault", and has the assault suit icon. Strange.
It is white. Whatever, such a stupid thing to contradict someone over. The point is that it isn't that dark blue/grey colour that assault dropsuits are by default. For a starter fit that is odd, although for this trailer maybe they messed with it for the sake of having the "star" be distinguishable from all the other faceless assault suits.
As for the fitting being called "assault", the fitting is listed as Assault - Anti-Infestation. The dropsuit type should be listed as Assault - Anti-Infestation, as starter suits are called by their designation like that, but in this case it isn't, either because CCP changed it for starter fits in general, or because this is a custom suit they made with a white colouration for the trailer, or because Anti-Infestation is a new starter suit configuration and they hadn't gotten around to changing the armor's name to that quite yet.
In any case, it's all pretty trivial. What's important are the slot differences, as the OP pointed out. Two light weapon slots, no grenade slot, two equipment slots. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:08:00 -
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Jeremiah ambromot wrote:I just wanted to say thank you. I have heard about the drones but this is the first time I have seen them. Anyone else think matrix?
You may think matrix, and are not far off, other than drones willingly eat people for repair materials, not energy. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:18:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Wait a second! Pausing at 0:25 showed me the high slots actually have the high slot icon (3 lines, instead of 2). Could this mean medium stuff is incoming?
I wonder what they put there...
By the way, in the same second, the three weapon slots shown are Heavy, Light, and Sidearm... Which proves my hypothesis from another thread that you'd be able to fit Forge Guns, as well as other heavy weapons, on Assault dropsuits. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:26:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/lLFuapP.png
The three weapon slots are not known. You have an assault rifle, a scrambler pistol, and a third L slot. Maybe they're all L slots. Maybe one is an H slot but the person has an assault rifle in it for some reason. Who knows. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:36:00 -
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Check the moment right before the weapons go into their slots, it clearly says H, L, S. It's the same precise moment when you can see the tri-dash high-powered slot symbols.
P.S. Here us a screenshot from my phone: http://imgur.com/hlvj4J8.jpg
I also just noticed how it says H, M, L, most likely standing for High, Medium, and Low. I wonder if it's just a different name for Heavy, Light, Sidearm, or weapons are going to be classified differently now... Probably the former. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:41:00 -
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That suits OP!!
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Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:44:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Check the moment right before the weapons go into their slots, it clearly says H, L, S. It's the same precise moment when you can see the tri-dash high-powered slot symbols. P.S. Here us a screenshot from my phone: http://imgur.com/hlvj4J8.jpg I also just noticed how it says H, M, L, most likely standing for High, Medium, and Low. I wonder if it's just a different name for Heavy, Light, Sidearm, or weapons are going to be classified differently now... Probably the former.
Good call. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:59:00 -
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Or maybe it was all just for show. Not actually game play.
It`s an assault suit, but it isn/'t any of the assault listed. It's a starter suit, but it has the slots of a standard fit. and weapon slots unlike any other suit. Has 2 of said suit, but doesn't actually list the amount of suits she has on the list. She picked an Anti armor suit, but is running with weapons for Anti infantry (Ar, SMGs, and so on.) She had Av grenades when she went into a fight with no grenades. Assault suits that are lower then proto suits do not have 2 equipment suits. LAV's can actually do sharp turns. That tank killed that LAV in one shot. A blaster turret usually takes at-least 5 shots to fill a starter LAV. That mini Rail gun had the rate of fire of a blaster.
NOT ACTUAL GAME PLAY, THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT LOOK "COOL" |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.23 04:04:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Or maybe it was all just for show. Not actually game play.
It`s an assault suit, but it isn/'t any of the assault listed. It's a starter suit, but it has the slots of a standard fit. and weapon slots unlike any other suit. Has 2 of said suit, but doesn't actually list the amount of suits she has on the list. She picked an Anti armor suit, but is running with weapons for Anti infantry (Ar, SMGs, and so on.) She had Av grenades when she went into a fight with no grenades. Assault suits that are lower then proto suits do not have 2 equipment suits. LAV's can actually do sharp turns. That tank killed that LAV in one shot. A blaster turret usually takes at-least 5 shots to fill a starter LAV. That mini Rail gun had the rate of fire of a blaster.
NOT ACTUAL GAME PLAY, THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT LOOK "COOL"
There were dozens of vehicles in close proximity to each other and none were blowing up due to fender benders. Clearly this is a movie rather than actual game play! |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.23 04:27:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Or maybe it was all just for show. Not actually game play.
Unlikely with respect to the dropsuit stuff. Having a substantially different dropsuit fitting screen isn't something they'd do "just for show". The only people who'd notice it is different are people who've played Dust. Everyone else will see it and not have much idea what it is beyond some kind of configuration screen.
The additional of a M slot for weapons, the removal of the grenade slot, and the conversion of the High module slot icon to be the same as EVE, with the three lines instead of two lines, are all fairly significant changes. They have no artistic basis, either.
This wouldn't be the first time we've gotten a preview of aspects of a forthcoming build from promotional stuff CCP has done. For example, we got to see female dropsuits for the first time during that Chinese game show a few months back, whatever it was called. As all of the changes we see in the dropsuit screen are changes that make sense to me, I'm more inclined to believe they're indicative of a broader change to how dropsuits will be configured, rather than arbitrary changes CCP made because they figure people seeing two seconds of a starter assault suit with two Low module slots rather than one would be really awesome. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.01.23 04:34:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Or maybe it was all just for show. Not actually game play. Unlikely with respect to the dropsuit stuff. Having a substantially different dropsuit fitting screen isn't something they'd do "just for show". The only people who'd notice it is different are people who've played Dust. Everyone else will see it and not have much idea what it is beyond some kind of configuration screen. The additional of a M slot for weapons, the removal of the grenade slot, and the conversion of the High module slot icon to be the same as EVE, with the three lines instead of two lines, are all fairly significant changes. They have no artistic basis, either. This wouldn't be the first time we've gotten a preview of aspects of a forthcoming build from promotional stuff CCP has done. For example, we got to see female dropsuits for the first time during that Chinese game show a few months back, whatever it was called. As all of the changes we see in the dropsuit screen are changes that make sense to me, I'm more inclined to believe they're indicative of a broader change to how dropsuits will be configured, rather than arbitrary changes CCP made because they figure people seeing two seconds of a starter assault suit with two Low module slots rather than one would be really awesome.
+1. I don't remember CCP showing us anything in vain, especially such small details. Clearly, at the very least the fitting screen will change in the next build or two. |
Hektor Flex
The Piddlez Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.23 04:45:00 -
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You know what it means? It all means nothing...... Go watch an Eve Online trailer. It looks nothing like game play. This is how CCP has advertised Eve for years and their doing the same with Dust. It doesn't take a genius.... |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.23 04:59:00 -
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Yeah, you're totally right. CCP is trying to entice people who've never played Dust before by promising them two equipment slots and two low slots on their militia-equivalent assault dropsuits. Those rattlesnakes! That's just what every person who has never played this game before wants to see! |
Hektor Flex
The Piddlez Legion
5
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Posted - 2013.01.23 05:01:00 -
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Go watch an Eve trailer it's called marketing. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.23 05:09:00 -
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I get the feeling you saw the title of this thread, didn't read anything written in it, and just hit the Reply button and started mashing keys. You're aware we're talking about dropsuit slot changes? Something that doesn't mean anything to people who aren't already playing Dust? So unless your genius contribution is that CCP changed the dropsuit configuration because they're trying to market their game to people who are already playing the game then I'm not sure what to tell you. |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.01.23 05:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Perhaps they listened to the request that grenades should be selected like equipment.
If that is the case they should bump the crouch to L2 and let the triangle button be for primary/secondary weapons swap. Let R2 be strictly for equipment selection.
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