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Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.23 10:07:00 -
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For zero-risk gear this is more than acceptable. |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
125
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Posted - 2013.01.23 10:17:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:For zero-risk gear this is more than acceptable.
the point is:
militia gear is no risk tiny amount of isk required (its equivalent)
Stater fits are free - and can be customised with isk equipmen.
why would anyone buy this stuff at these prices? |
Commander Tuna
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
7
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Posted - 2013.01.23 11:12:00 -
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xAckie wrote:Sylvana Nightwind wrote:For zero-risk gear this is more than acceptable. the point is: militia gear is no risk tiny amount of isk required (its equivalent) Stater fits are free - and can be customised with isk equipmen. why would anyone buy this stuff at these prices?
Fully agree. Just customize the starter kits. It won't be very efficient but neither would an all militia loadout. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2013.01.23 11:33:00 -
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Obviously, the new prices for militia iteam BPOs are way, way, way, way too high 
Why, coz they're just militia stuff. So pointless after 2 weeks of playing imo.
CCP, believe me when i tell you that every new player will hear from the people he asks advice to that buying those stuff is definitely pointless. Thus, you wont make any money out of it.
Previous prices being too low, that i can get. But the new ones are just ridiculous. |
Vane Arcadia
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
115
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Posted - 2013.01.23 11:57:00 -
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The easiest way to object to the new AUR prices is to simply not pay.
I have an alt on a seperate psn - no aur no boosters no BPO.
He uses full militia isk items + either a mass driver or a laser.
I only play him on the weekends and already he has 4mill isk - the isk payouts can easily cover the costs. |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
334
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Posted - 2013.01.23 12:16:00 -
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far too high. I think 2000 for a dropsuit BPO, 1000 for each weapon, and 250 for all other dropsuit modules/equipment would be far, FAR more fair, but still encourage people to buy AUR. also, why raise the price of the tributes? $6 for an in-game item is already steep enough. I mean, before the price raise, it was already approaching horse armor levels of gouging. we are now looking at $10 for a hot dog (IE Stadium prices) levels of insanity. I can only hope a programmer accidentally threw a few extra numbers into the equation. |
Mars El'Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
Heart 0f Darkness
52
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Posted - 2013.01.23 12:22:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Makes me feel lucky I got my AUR stuff earlier and makes me more ELITE at this point (AUR wise).
I'd delete mine if I could.
edit: Though, actually I apparently didn't pay clear enough attention to the post on it as this is cheaper than I was thinking. I seem to recall seeing lots of 19800, but I suppose it was skim, 9800-9800-9800...and to the bottom.. 19800, then evaluate from there.
 But regardless, I fully understand they are unlimited use items, but they also started out as free unlimited items, and they are rather poor ones at that. The Militia fits are barely functional and have rather bad fitting capabilities. Any type 1 suit and fit will dominate one with ease.
Also, they don't actually have a great variety of modules, so you are stuck with standard items for any 'good' fit either way. All I cam away from this with, (aside from a share of anger), is that they are not particularly worth the investment. They will not substitute long term, and they are cheap enough individually to make it foolish to invest in them with AUR at these prices.
Better to drop it on that Raven Suit, which I actually meant to do, but bought the Primordial instead, when I did. I have a Skinweave Assault which looks as good and works equally well. The Raven is marginally better ofc.
tl;dr: They are cheap and they should be cheap. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
162
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Posted - 2013.01.23 12:48:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:and once you purchase all the gear it is yours forever, never having to restock etc...
I really don't see the problem here
Too expensive for your taste? Don't buy it. Can you justify $32 for a militia fit? I'm thinking of the new players here. I already have every bpo
I do think the BPOs should be cheaper, but the 32 is for a full fitted militia dropsuit. As a primary suit no one needs to spend that as all anyone will be doing is buying one module and one equipment to fill out the free militia suit EVERYONE has at the beginning. Depending on what class is picked on character creation there's is a free FULLY fitted suit. Some might want to change their sidearm or equipment, that's their choice.
Anyone that feels they have to pay 32 euro to have a secondary free suit either has either the money and wants an easy start or doesn't have the time to play enough, or seriously lacks game skills. If you don't have the basic game skills or money then maybe Dust isn't for you. ISK payouts are more than enough to support a decent tier I suit setup partnered with the free suit you picked. Don't spend what the pocket can't support. And that's applies to Aurum as much as ISK. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
162
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Posted - 2013.01.23 12:57:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:You seem to be ignoring the option of using your starter fits effectively.
Dropsuit: 0 AUR
Weapons: 11,800 AUR each. Most fittings will only need one weapon switched from the default.
Grenades: 0 AUR
Equipment: 9.800AUR
Modules: 4,800 AUR per module. One purchased module will usually be all that's required to round out a Starter Fit.
Total: Anything from 0 AUR (if you're really lucky with not needing to change anything) up to 52,800 with a heavily-modified Logi suit.
I hadn't read down the thread enough before I posted put this is exactly what I said. I think people are blowing things out of proportions. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
162
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:01:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:At this point they need to charge more for militia crap than proto. I'm sick and tired of getting insta-killed by nothing but Exile, militia, and standard AR's. Use a ******* GEK already you douchebags!  CCP and their weapon flattening, that nobody asked for.
Really!!! How about the fact that it's early days and some people are working on other core skills than AR. Don't worry, the higher tier weapons will be killing ya more regularly soon enough |
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Mars El'Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
Heart 0f Darkness
52
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:28:00 -
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Do recall the starter fits are free and unlimited, and then consider they only include the Militia Dropsuit you cam with. This doesn't leave much room for trying other Dropsuits and fits aside from buying them individually or spending the AUR to aquire the BPOs.
This isn't a huge deal, but it does impact the game in some small fashion, and more importantly, it suggests that any further additions of this sort will be beyond prohibitively expensive. If a Raven Suit, (or equivalent Logi or Scout), BPO costs ~$10, then what of other items that are better, or come to complement that?
Type I or Class I items are not exactly cheap, and I for one cannot afford to stock them for battles where I expect to see losses. This particularly covers ambush, where you can be spawn killed 9 times out of 10 on occasion, but also extends to Skirmish when you are facing an organized team and have none of your own.
Generally, I lose ISK per Battle if I buy these items and use them. I can quite honestly say that I'm fairly certain I've had as many as 30 losses in one battle. Using a Starter fit is one alternative, but it doesn't leave much room for experimentation. Militia BPOs are the other alternative, and though poor in fitting, they do allow a little experimentation.
The last option is just buying, using, and losing Militia gear. This is fine as an alternative when compared to the loss of 'real' fits and the AUR cost of BPOs at the new prices. At least you can earn ISK, while suffering a greater K/D loss ratio unfortunately, if not much greater ime, doing this.
I was fine with paying the AUR for the alternate Militia Dropsuit, or somewhat more for a type I, then fitting it with militia items and maybe the odd Type I item as a way of compensating. The Militia BPOs simply made this easier and were readily available at the old AUR cost. Some might say to available, and I wouldn't entirely disagree with them.
As it is, if we can expect these changes to stick, I'd just as soon even things out and have all non-skill-associated purchases reimbursed and the items removed. |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:35:00 -
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Quote:In a shocking revelation today, BullCrap news has learned that customers want the things they buy to be cheaper. More details after the break. |
Rus Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
6
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Posted - 2013.03.02 17:59:00 -
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EVE Universe is supposed to have risks. The BPO items reduce the risk, thus they *need* to be bad deals. Otherwise they will break the game.
Every loss needs to hurt. Otherwise it's not EVE Universe. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
94
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Posted - 2013.03.02 18:44:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:and once you purchase all the gear it is yours forever, never having to restock etc...
I really don't see the problem here
Too expensive for your taste? Don't buy it. Can you justify $32 for a militia fit? I'm thinking of the new players here. I already have every bpo
i can justify it based off the fact that the equivalent militia suit would probably cost around 10k isk a suit, its really up to each person weather they want to shell out that kind of money or not (when in reality they dont "need" to). Us beta testers got it easy cuz all that militia stuff was practically given to us :) |
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