Here's another fact: the avrage HAV has about 10-14k eHP. That means that you can basically 1-2 shot a HAV.

But HAV's are op, and they need a team to survive, cuz no solo allowed.

Are we playing the same game? I see them soloing all the time.

The OP has left too many details out, so I have nothing else to comment on.

There is a very large gap between levels for tanks. From the attacker perspective, lower level tanks are garbage, while high tier tanks are solo gods. I suspect the stats would show the same.

And from the defender perspective, I don't feel like I can solo a high level tank without considerable loss of clones, but I can solo a lower level one.

I don't know if things are working as intended or not. That's up to ccp.

This has been discussed several times no so I'm going to give you a fact: I played around with the numbers, I found out that with all bounses, the Max damage that you can possibly dish out to a vehicle from infantry is about 11.6k damage. That's That shouldn't be even possible, yet it is.

Far from solo gods bud,

I was just pointing that out. Anyways, the highest possible damage with a militia FG or swarms is 4.6k damage. If you want to do the math yourself, the bounses % is 285% (or 2.85 if you want to so it fast). This basically means that any person who trys skipping into other things can at max 4 shot and a couple nades any HAV that has self-reps (which is most since nobody will skill into remote reps yet). Plus, When do you ever see bluedots or even Corp mates protect vehicles? From experience, I can tell you it's the exact opposite. Now I say again, AV needs adjusting

Whatever you call them, we don't have the real information. CCP has the stats and will have to decide if they are OP or not.



You're assuming that people have a very extreme build of pure AV. I don't think that's common at all, and if someone does have that build, then yes, he will probably make his one mission be to hunt your tank.

You make it sound so easy to swarm a tank 4 times and lob 2 grenades. I would suggest you fire back from your tank, or try moving.

I think ur just being a stinker butt AV nooblett.

lol, that's probably true. but hey, I drive an LAV, so if you guys want to get AV nerfed, then don't let me stop you. :D

I was just pointing that out. Anyways, the highest possible damage with a militia FG or swarms is 4.6k damage. If you want to do the math yourself, the bounses % is 285% (or 2.85 if you want to so it fast).

Again, where are you getting these numbers from? Show how you're getting to +285% damage (and also where that 11.6k came from), because I don't think that's right.

But HAV's are op, and they need a team to survive, cuz no solo allowed.

Are we playing the same game? I see them soloing all the time.

QFT!



Probably. I see them solo all the time too. I also see them getting blown up all the time. I think many people are underestimating the teamwork that goes on with "solo" tanks too. Just because you don't see support does not mean that there is no support.

QFT!



Probably. I see them solo all the time too. I also see them getting blown up all the time. I think many people are underestimating the teamwork that goes on with "solo" tanks too. Just because you don't see support does not mean that there is no support.

Probably. I see them solo all the time too. I also see them getting blown up all the time. I think many people are underestimating the teamwork that goes on with "solo" tanks too. Just because you don't see support does not mean that there is no support.

There is a very large gap between levels for tanks. From the attacker perspective, lower level tanks are garbage, while high tier tanks are solo gods. I suspect the stats would show the same.

And from the defender perspective, I don't feel like I can go solo against a high level tank without considerable loss of clones, but I can solo a lower level one.

I don't know if things are working as intended or not. That's up to ccp.

Alright, Im finally in game and I see no one has posted the numbers for a forge so here we go.

The highest tier breach forge (DCMA-5) has a base damage of: 2310.

Add max weaponry (10%): 231.

Add forge proficiency lvl 5 (15% total): 346.5.

Add two complex damage mods with stacking penalty (18%?): 415.8.

For a total damage of: 3303.3.

o boy someone posted the base damage of the highest damage forge gun I think you would want to know that the highest damage railgun turret does a base of 1749.00 damage :D yeah those OP turrets yeah dem forges are more powerful :D need to balance the turrets vs AV then we need to balance AV vs EHP.

my opinion on AV is something handheld should never out damage a large turret of the same level so I think we need to revisit AV that way. I can't tell you how many times I've had my tank blown up trying to run away from AV and getting blown up before I could find out which direction the damage is coming from( and in this same tank I had an orbital called down directly on top of it and when it was already damaged and survived)

o boy someone posted the base damage of the highest damage forge gun I think you would want to know that the highest damage railgun turret does a base of 1749.00 damage :D yeah those OP turrets yeah dem forges are more powerful :D need to balance the turrets vs AV then we need to balance AV vs EHP.

my opinion on AV is something handheld should never out damage a large turret of the same level so I think we need to revisit AV that way. I can't tell you how many times I've had my tank blown up trying to run away from AV and getting blown up before I could find out which direction the damage is coming from( and in this same tank I had an orbital called down directly on top of it and when it was already damaged and survived)