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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
247
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:23:00 -
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New players are coming in every day and wasting their valuable SP on making a new corporation. The number of new corps just since the wipe is already over 1000, and it's only been a week. If you have a small group of people you play with and you want to form a new corp after you have some core skills squared away, go for it. But you aren't going to be able to make a successful corp by playing solo until people one by one gradually join your corp. That's not how it works. There are already MANY big name corps out there that have reputations that will FAR outweigh your 1 or 2 man corp when it comes to deciding who to join. Large corps already have Eve and alliance contacts, resources, man power, not to mention most of the best players in the game are already squared away in the top 20 corps.
Your best bet to get by here in Dust is to find an existing corp that suits your needs, be that Eve contacts, KDR requirements, team play, etc, and join up. There are PLENTY to choose from who will have all you need and more.
If you make a new corporation you will not be able to leave it unless you pass the CEOship off to someone else. And you will not get those SP you wasted on the skills to make that corp back. I know you are all coming in here with dreams of grandeur and wanting to aim for the top, but you're chances are very poor at best of ever pulling past 15 members. And once it becomes apparent that your corp is going nowhere, you will have desertions until you drop down to you and a handful of friends. It's already happened over and over, I've seen it happen to so many corps that looked like they were gonna do well.
I really hate to see noobs waste their startup SP on making a new corp and get pissed because they are getting stomped, then just give up on the game. It's that kind of thing that could perhaps cripple a lot of the player base from the get go, thus leaving us with a very low playerbase in a game that needs a lot of players to function properly.
But it's just my suggestion. All around, it's a bad idea unless you have numbers and talent there with you before you start. |
pbr me
843 Boot Camp
5
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Posted - 2013.01.17 23:48:00 -
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Some of those corps are made for doing training... so figure that each main corp has a training corp. It adds up.
But, yeah... a two or three person corp... not good. |
baranaukas
Carbon 7
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 23:58:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:New players are coming in every day and wasting their valuable SP on making a new corporation. The number of new corps just since the wipe is already over 1000, and it's only been a week. If you have a small group of people you play with and you want to form a new corp after you have some core skills squared away, go for it. But you aren't going to be able to make a successful corp by playing solo until people one by one gradually join your corp. That's not how it works. There are already MANY big name corps out there that have reputations that will FAR outweigh your 1 or 2 man corp when it comes to deciding who to join. Large corps already have Eve and alliance contacts, resources, man power, not to mention most of the best players in the game are already squared away in the top 20 corps.
Your best bet to get by here in Dust is to find an existing corp that suits your needs, be that Eve contacts, KDR requirements, team play, etc, and join up. There are PLENTY to choose from who will have all you need and more.
If you make a new corporation you will not be able to leave it unless you pass the CEOship off to someone else. And you will not get those SP you wasted on the skills to make that corp back. I know you are all coming in here with dreams of grandeur and wanting to aim for the top, but you're chances are very poor at best of ever pulling past 15 members. And once it becomes apparent that your corp is going nowhere, you will have desertions until you drop down to you and a handful of friends. It's already happened over and over, I've seen it happen to so many corps that looked like they were gonna do well.
I really hate to see noobs waste their startup SP on making a new corp and get pissed because they are getting stomped, then just give up on the game. It's that kind of thing that could perhaps cripple a lot of the player base from the get go, thus leaving us with a very low playerbase in a game that needs a lot of players to function properly.
But it's just my suggestion. All around, it's a bad idea unless you have numbers and talent there with you before you start.
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Rodger Forbes
Doomheim
7
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:42:00 -
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Second that. |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.01.18 02:37:00 -
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I found a camper in the MCC a couple of days ago. I tagged the id and emailed it later.
Asking if he was confused about his purpose? Suggested that it would be best to start playing the game or it would be better if he just exited the next time I saw him.
Got back this as a subject: GO F??K YOURSELF YOU TRYHARD (didn't even use the ? like I did here, must have been upset). Empty message body but I doubt if much else needed to said at that point.
To which i was mostly polite, slightly condescending and suggested that maybe Angry Birds was more suited to his play style. Considering the id I was pretty certain it was male (probably teen-age or barely) but the reply cemented the deal.
Your post made me wonder a bit about the genius. Surely even DipStick-O-Matic wouldn't be that dumb.
I just checked it out:
Adamantium Metal, a Corp has a CEO by the name of Adamantium Claw. Online is Adamantium Claws, Wolvey Love ain't it grand?
With a member count of 1 and 6220 SP down the drain.
I'll bet the weapon of choice is a DipStick-O-Matic. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
427
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Posted - 2013.01.21 00:21:00 -
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As a previous CEO of a corp that apparently everyone knew about and claimed to like the idea but literally got 2 recruits... I agree. Small corps miss out on the fun of corp battles, because you're sure as hell not going to solo them.
However, if you are determined to make a small corp here are my suggestions.
1) Give it a limited purpose
- To Train (like my old corp)
- To harbor the most elite players and help out in other corporation's corp battles
- To be a sect of a larger corp
2) Don't use Local chat to recruit What will happen is that your corp will begin to harbor dum-dum nobodies that will ruin the reputation of your corp although unlikely that it had any to begin with.
3) Top the board You and your 2-3 person corp is going no where unless you can actively top the pub-matches standings, especially the corp squads that go into them. You're not going to win over the respect of other corps/mercs unless you can prove it's got potential.
But I recommend not making a corp without a substantial backing because you'll just miss out on the fun |
Free Healing
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.21 02:19:00 -
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On the other hand it is pretty fantastic when your small Corp. of 6-8 people ends up taking off and getting a grand reputation and placing itself close to the top 10 on the leaderboard :)
On yet another hand. I think some of these 1 man corporations are actually just in it to have a different name than the NPC corporation so that they can be recognized as different from the rest of the Blueberries.
Keep the faith. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.21 02:45:00 -
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Aren't most of those corps eve corps? I haven't seen too much variation as far as what corps have people fighting. |
OgTheNinja
Super Ninja Pew Pew Stab Association
4
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Posted - 2013.01.21 03:13:00 -
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No way, mine will be the greatest ninja corp the world has ever seen! I will shotgun and nova my way to the ultimate victory!
In case you haven't realised, OgTheNinja is an alt and I've created this corp for a bit of extra fun. Not all corporations are supposed to be serious. |
Patoman OfallColors
Angels of Darkness
3
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Posted - 2013.01.21 03:58:00 -
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with the eve dust link the crops you can join are endless, being 1-10 mil eve isk is easy to get.
I see the point in that people should group up, I made a corp because I was frustrated with ZION tcd and other simmilar operations in having a HUUUUUUGE process of filling out fourm and giving every stupid detail in your experiences in a game, that is then reviewed for DAYS.
You can literally spend hours and days getting in a corp, most RL jobs I apply for require a tenth of the effort even of the more difficult ones.
My word to established corps to draw people way from making own corps is to realize, this is a game, and a beta, dont be a shitlord, realize its a game and not a second work life. |
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trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
24
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Posted - 2013.01.21 06:06:00 -
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OgTheNinja wrote:No way, mine will be the greatest ninja corp the world has ever seen! I will shotgun and nova my way to the ultimate victory!
In case you haven't realised, OgTheNinja is an alt and I've created this corp for a bit of extra fun. Not all corporations are supposed to be serious. Can I join? I'm not a ninja knifer, but I spam M1 grenades on a shotgun scout! My M1's could provide your ninja poof for you when you need to disappear in a blast of ninja smoke. ^_^ |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.01.21 07:32:00 -
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Patoman OfallColors wrote:with the eve dust link the crops you can join are endless, being 1-10 mil eve isk is easy to get.
I see the point in that people should group up, I made a corp because I was frustrated with ZION tcd and other simmilar operations in having a HUUUUUUGE process of filling out fourm and giving every stupid detail in your experiences in a game, that is then reviewed for DAYS.
You can literally spend hours and days getting in a corp, most RL jobs I apply for require a tenth of the effort even of the more difficult ones.
My word to established corps to draw people way from making own corps is to realize, this is a game, and a beta, dont be a shitlord, realize its a game and not a second work life. And they state that using a booster is cheating. So your Merc Pack comes with a built in Keep Out Of Zion Ticket. I didn't stick around long enough to see if spending AUR was as well.
ShitLord. What a great label. |
OgTheNinja
Super Ninja Pew Pew Stab Association
4
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:10:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:Can I join? I'm not a ninja knifer, but I spam M1 grenades on a shotgun scout! My M1's could provide your ninja poof for you when you need to disappear in a blast of ninja smoke. ^_^ I'm not really recruiting at the moment but if I do in future you'll need to understand that it won't be on a official capacity ie. I have no plans to do any corp battles, unless it's something special like nova knives only. I'm also not going to be putting a lot of time into OgTheNinja for a while. The current daily SP cap without rollover makes training up an alt a pain, so I'm hoping they at least implement a new way of limiting SP so I can at least earn a decent amount without logging in every day. Hell, I would even be happier with the weekly cap again. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1590
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:51:00 -
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I wouldn't judge these 1-man corps just yet. Eve Online has a ton of 1-man corps with characters that never even leave the station in their lives. These mainly tend to be holding corps that provide a means of circumventing certain mechanics while still being legal.
Case in point: Wardec Shield |
trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
24
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Posted - 2013.01.22 10:40:00 -
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OgTheNinja wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Can I join? I'm not a ninja knifer, but I spam M1 grenades on a shotgun scout! My M1's could provide your ninja poof for you when you need to disappear in a blast of ninja smoke. ^_^ I'm not really recruiting at the moment but if I do in future you'll need to understand that it won't be on a official capacity ie. I have no plans to do any corp battles, unless it's something special like nova knives only. I'm also not going to be putting a lot of time into OgTheNinja for a while. The current daily SP cap without rollover makes training up an alt a pain, so I'm hoping they at least implement a new way of limiting SP so I can at least earn a decent amount without logging in every day. Hell, I would even be happier with the weekly cap again. It's all good, they finally nerfed the grenade fuse anyway, so no more instanade-kills for me... Besides, this isn't my main either |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
247
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Posted - 2013.01.22 10:43:00 -
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Thranx1231 wrote:Patoman OfallColors wrote:with the eve dust link the crops you can join are endless, being 1-10 mil eve isk is easy to get.
I see the point in that people should group up, I made a corp because I was frustrated with ZION tcd and other simmilar operations in having a HUUUUUUGE process of filling out fourm and giving every stupid detail in your experiences in a game, that is then reviewed for DAYS.
You can literally spend hours and days getting in a corp, most RL jobs I apply for require a tenth of the effort even of the more difficult ones.
My word to established corps to draw people way from making own corps is to realize, this is a game, and a beta, dont be a shitlord, realize its a game and not a second work life. And they state that using a booster is cheating. So your Merc Pack comes with a built in Keep Out Of Zion Ticket. I didn't stick around long enough to see if spending AUR was as well. ShitLord. What a great label. We have a recruitment process, but it usually only lasts a few hours unless we have trouble getting online at the same time to squad with you. Amazing that ZION has such a process considering their player count.
(ShitLord is a very nice label indeed)
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Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2013.01.22 13:52:00 -
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From the one poster above it sounds like Zion has their priorities in order. Being isk efficient if your corp is subsidizing at a later point is something to look at. Also, later on down the road when armories are out and corps/alliances are holding districts or whole planets. You do not want to have an awoxxer or corp thief cleaning you out or spies giving info back on an operation you have planned. A lengthy and detailed application process is good because it can be used to see where a person would fit in and what they want to accomplish. Just like on EVE you should have goals. New Eden is all about goals, business and getting on top. |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.01.23 10:57:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:New players are coming in every day and wasting their valuable SP on making a new corporation. The number of new corps just since the wipe is already over 1000, and it's only been a week. If you have a small group of people you play with and you want to form a new corp after you have some core skills squared away, go for it. But you aren't going to be able to make a successful corp by playing solo until people one by one gradually join your corp. That's not how it works. There are already MANY big name corps out there that have reputations that will FAR outweigh your 1 or 2 man corp when it comes to deciding who to join. Large corps already have Eve and alliance contacts, resources, man power, not to mention most of the best players in the game are already squared away in the top 20 corps.
Your best bet to get by here in Dust is to find an existing corp that suits your needs, be that Eve contacts, KDR requirements, team play, etc, and join up. There are PLENTY to choose from who will have all you need and more.
If you make a new corporation you will not be able to leave it unless you pass the CEOship off to someone else. And you will not get those SP you wasted on the skills to make that corp back. I know you are all coming in here with dreams of grandeur and wanting to aim for the top, but you're chances are very poor at best of ever pulling past 15 members. And once it becomes apparent that your corp is going nowhere, you will have desertions until you drop down to you and a handful of friends. It's already happened over and over, I've seen it happen to so many corps that looked like they were gonna do well.
I really hate to see noobs waste their startup SP on making a new corp and get pissed because they are getting stomped, then just give up on the game. It's that kind of thing that could perhaps cripple a lot of the player base from the get go, thus leaving us with a very low playerbase in a game that needs a lot of players to function properly.
But it's just my suggestion. All around, it's a bad idea unless you have numbers and talent there with you before you start. Well I'm not going to join a large Corp so I can hear people who think they're better than me and whom I don't know or care about brag. I would much rather have a 5 person Corp as I do now with me and close friends. Are we going to Corp battle? Not right away. Are we going to dominate the global leaderbords? Nope but man its a lot more fun learning the game and sharing isk with my friends. And besides it was like 6000 sp took my a whole match to accumulate that. |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:19:00 -
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OgTheNinja wrote:No way, mine will be the greatest ninja corp the world has ever seen! I will shotgun and nova my way to the ultimate victory!
In case you haven't realised, OgTheNinja is an alt and I've created this corp for a bit of extra fun. Not all corporations are supposed to be serious.
Aww I would love to see 8 nova ninjas running around |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
278
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Posted - 2013.01.24 04:28:00 -
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Og should join Suddenly Ninjas |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
136
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:06:00 -
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Regarding being stuck, you have two slots free for another merc, create one, join corp, transfer CEO, leave for whatever new corp you aim to be in.
As for the wasted skillpoints... after a while you will come to realize that skillpoints is not everything and those sp are not that much to whine about
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2013.01.24 11:01:00 -
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2 man corp = 1 eve player + 1 merc, takes about 20min for an eve player to get corp skill. |
trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
34
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Posted - 2013.03.01 15:34:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Regarding being stuck, you have two slots free for another merc, create one, join corp, transfer CEO, leave for whatever new corp you aim to be in. As for the wasted skillpoints... after a while you will come to realize that skillpoints is not everything and those sp are not that much to whine about /c Any lost SP is important whenn you are 50,000 SP from your next skill and you've already capped out for the week on Friday.
And yes you can transfer it over like that, but then you are stuck with an alt that you cannot delete because it is the CEO of a corp. |
letsroll1234
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2
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Posted - 2013.03.01 16:08:00 -
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Well good post but they ant gonna listen. So I ill keep kllen em and they will get mad cause they don't have any good skills. Welcome to the randoms. If you are going to create a corp, I sugest atleast get 50 people to play with you when you start off |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
15
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Posted - 2013.03.01 20:35:00 -
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Its good advice but Im fine with whichever way they choose. Most are probably first time FPS players or are from some of the games that major clans dont take part in. I imagine that many will migrate to a larger Corp at some point if/when theirs hits the wall. We all started out the same way whichever game we played. I actually think its a good idea for newberries to get an idea of how hard it is to run a clan/corp which will make them more appreciative once they join one of the larger ones.
I think you should also note that many of these corps/clans are not just from the EVE universe. Many have been in existence for many years and migrate together when a new game pops up.
The reason for the lengthy interview many times is due to the fact that they see the relationship extending beyond just the game itself (and whoever said that they have gotten jobs faster must love flipping burgers). |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
298
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Posted - 2013.03.02 17:45:00 -
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I created a corp once, Dust Souls Inc. About 20 people said they would join... like 7 actually did. We'd never really squad up or anything so I decided to accept an invite to the Necromonger's. It wasn't bad, but friend wanted me join his corp so he wouldn't have to ditch me every time the corp wanted him to squad up with them. I joined, and am now on probation with the Reapers. Good corp, chill people.
As for the original corp that I started, I know two members joined Pro Hic Immortalis, and another guy joined Impwarm. So.. yeah, I hope i didn't leave the person I gave the CEO position with a useless corp. |
Fornacis Fairchild
Kat 5 Kaos
26
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Posted - 2013.03.02 20:48:00 -
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Yeah small corp is only 1.5 mil isk and like 14k SP or something.
Me and my buddy decided it would make it easier for us to squad up in Dust so we made a small corp. Not sure on why the small corp hate....it's not like we're peeing in your clone vat or anything on the field. |
Geth Massredux
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
72
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Posted - 2013.03.02 21:41:00 -
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Well damn just let the clones be leaders for once in their Merc life, remember they only live once- YOLO |
et dAnk
Special Ops Sirocco
0
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Posted - 2013.03.03 04:42:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote: Well damn just let the clones be leaders for once in their Merc life, remember they only live once- YOLO Actually you live everyday. You only die once. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
308
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Posted - 2013.03.03 08:23:00 -
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et dAnk wrote:Geth Massredux wrote: Well damn just let the clones be leaders for once in their Merc life, remember they only live once- YOLO Actually you live everyday. You only die once. False. Our minds get transferred back to our original bodies upon death, therefore we die many times. That's why everyone's so batshit insane |
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