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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:37:00 -
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Now that we have a new starter fit depending on class, I completely agree with this. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:39:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Pretty much title, remove the majority of the starter fits including the free LAV except the Frontline starter fit.
Reasons for the majority of starter suits:
They're simply not needed, we have a sniper fit which allows new players to just sit on the red line and camp without wasting a single bit of ISK/Aur or SP to actually use them. I've sniped a few times and honestly see no reason to go waste cash on anything when I have this available. You then have the free Swarms and Forge Guns yet I see no free tanks or dropships? AV Players say that they're not strong enough to be useful so I'm pretty sure they'd support my arguement, right?
Reason for the LAV:
The vehicle is ridiculous, I can run around and go 20+/0 because I was just running people over. I can use it for free to haul my heavy around and jump out with no issue as I gun people down. Removing this gives a reason not to have free AV but also provides Dropship Pilots/LAV Drivers with a transport use and lowers the possibility of you get ran over by newbs. because we all know that new players don't want starter fits relevant to their chosen class role. We also know they like to have to pay 80-90% of their ISK to replace their starter fits instead of grinding for skillbooks and better gear.
Have you played at all this build? Everyone has a class-based starter fit, in addition to the traditional ones. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:40:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:-1
I think people need to see the kinds of options that are available and what fits can look like.
I don't see how removing them fixes any problems other than some people dislike snipers. Removing them would actually encourage more people to STAY snipers if all they get is the Arbiter fit.
Why would removing 1 of the sniper starter fits encourage people who have 2 sniper starter fits to stay snipers? And if they're the Arbiter class, they probably planned to stay as a sniper from the start anyway, or else they wouldn't have chosen that. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.19 22:47:00 -
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YourDeadAgain76 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Pretty much title, remove the majority of the starter fits including the free LAV except the Frontline starter fit.
Reasons for the majority of starter suits:
They're simply not needed, we have a sniper fit which allows new players to just sit on the red line and camp without wasting a single bit of ISK/Aur or SP to actually use them. I've sniped a few times and honestly see no reason to go waste cash on anything when I have this available. You then have the free Swarms and Forge Guns yet I see no free tanks or dropships? AV Players say that they're not strong enough to be useful so I'm pretty sure they'd support my arguement, right?
Reason for the LAV:
The vehicle is ridiculous, I can run around and go 20+/0 because I was just running people over. I can use it for free to haul my heavy around and jump out with no issue as I gun people down. Removing this gives a reason not to have free AV but also provides Dropship Pilots/LAV Drivers with a transport use and lowers the possibility of you get ran over by newbs. +1 to Murder/Heavy taxis they are getting old. F@T @ss heavys should have to sp into LAV. (im saying this and my secondary is a heavy) even though its easy killing hoping out of a LAV. +1 to sniper starter kit's there are way to many snipers in this game already. CCP need to make player cap at 32 X 32 soon because one quarter of the mercs already are snipers in a game and if it was 32X32 us guys on the ground.... were the metal meets the meat will have some help for once. 
After the recent blaster buff, I would say heavies are kindof stupid for still using their HMGs with anything but the worst LAVs- many times already, I've killed HMG heavies with my methana's blaster (20GJ scattered, standard) before they could deal significant damage to me. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.20 02:46:00 -
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Grims Tooth wrote:My suggestion would be to remove the turret from the free LAV as well as the default modules. This would make the free version just a weak transport vehicle. Making the LAV take damage upon hitting infantry will also make them less powerful.
The turret is the only thing keeping the starter fits legit- when people like myself, who specialize in LAVs, figure the battle is no longer worth risking expensive LAVs, it's like a starter fit dropsuit. Otherwise, the starter fits are just crushyy-deathtaxis. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.20 18:09:00 -
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I've been seeing even worse stuff today. It seems that when people in starter fit LAVs are outgunned by another vehicle, and there's apparently no way out, they just go suicidal an ram the vehicle that costs something, either doing massive damage or destroying it. |
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