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Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.15 23:00:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Been watching a few vids of people playing it, and I can't help but wish dust was more like it, dust plays like the poor man's planetside, how do you think they compare?
Planetside=terrible
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Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.15 23:17:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:It all comes down to appeal, if you dont play Eve than planet side 2 appeals more to you than Dust. If you do play Eve than Dust has far more potential then planet side 2.
Skirmish is not going to drag BF3 players away from BF3, I wish it did. Ambush is not going to drag COD players away from Blops2, i wish it did.
but on the other hand if you told them you could then play both modes together with 1999 other players that SOE is selling well . Where CCP keeps trying to sell Eve to people that dont play Eve or own a computer with the market and Eve space changing. Non of the reviews on Dust ever say the concept is crap, just their not sure what it offers to the player that doesnt play Eve on the PS3 mostly.
Yes there are exceptions to the rules
I have never played EVE. It always sounded interesting. But I don't have anything like a gaming rig. That is the reason I don't play Planetside 2. Otherwise I would probably give it a shot.
I don't buy this whole "DUST 514 is only for EVE players shoulda been on PC" garbage. Your post seems to share some of those underlying assumptions.
There is a huge population of gamers of all stripes that own the PS 3. Not just a few exceptions to a made up and fallacious rule.
But yes, you did get to the heart of what CCP is trying to do here. Sell EVE to people that don't play EVE. Why the hell would they try to sell EVE to people that already buy EVE? Makes no sense.
DUST may fail to attract and hold player's attention. But this idea that players can only play one game at a time is ridiculous. Some players will probably play both COD Blops2 and DUST 514. 3 years from now if all goes well, you should still be able to play DUST 514 and it should be full of new content, have gone through a lot of refinement, etc. 3 years from now I doubt that the millions of COD players spending all their time on Blops 2 will still be loading it up as often as they do now.
DUST should not exist to drag FPS players away from their favorite games. It should be a place where those players can go to experience a kind of gaming like nothing any of the other games have to offer. Even if there is a lot that is already familiar. Like, get gun, shoot enemy. Get killed, respawn. |
Dezus 1000
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:00:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:DUST is meant to eventually have meaning combat where battles affect other players. PS2 has no meaning to its combat, you can fight in the same place for 5 hours straight and it can be fun, but once you and your outfit are offline, the randoms will lose that place you held for so long and you'll get pushed back again. Theres also the fact theres no reason to actually "win". And then theres the whole, if you're losing just switch to an alt and fight on a different continent, it's dull and boring.
That is what it is all about, having a reason to fight. A "real" dynamic scifi universe. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:04:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:planetside 2 is garbage played beta and it sucked horse booty and the only reason the map is large scale with way more people in a match then dust has currently is because its a pc mmo
You realize the game has been released for a couple months now, right? Who cares if you played the beta, the beta is long over and the game has been substantially improved.
DON RODIE II wrote:u forgot something. u cant have bullet drop in dust because dust merc dont use bullets lol
The mercs in Dust don't exist. They use whatever CCP imagines they use. |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2013.01.16 07:34:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:DUST is meant to eventually have meaning combat where battles affect other players. PS2 has no meaning to its combat, you can fight in the same place for 5 hours straight and it can be fun, but once you and your outfit are offline, the randoms will lose that place you held for so long and you'll get pushed back again. Theres also the fact theres no reason to actually "win". And then theres the whole, if you're losing just switch to an alt and fight on a different continent, it's dull and boring.
this. For now yes dust loses by a land slide, but in the long run dust wins. CCP, whatever you might say about them, has a long history of sticking by their games and improving them bit by bit, never saying good enough.
That said they also have a long history of taking FOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRR to get there. Im hoping the critical elements that add depth to this game will come more rapidly in the next couple of months as they have a large data pool and more people to fill the modes they implement(the closed beta suffered horribly from having too few players), but we could be in for a very long haul. |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:26:00 -
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Planetside 2 crushes this game in every conceivable way. For starters it actually has functioning, quality gun-play. Also, it's a TON of fun and doesn't have a deluge of stat-****.
I can't help but think people have swallowed the Dust marketing line. Like in any way shape or form Dust offers something deeper than any other shooter out there.
It's instanced 10-20 min, small scale battles people. The core game-play offers nothing more nuanced or deep than any other game doing the rounds.
Dust players have no primary impact on New Eden, they're pure mercenaries, you're not able to own planets, own space, compete with EVE players or create something meaningful (as it is now), you just accept any contract that comes up.
I'm not sure how they can fix this problem and it's the biggest problem it has, if you really felt part of something bigger the bad gameplay could be forgiven. Even if it suddenly becomes an amazing game to play it's still not going to feel like an MMO |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:33:00 -
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Nope ps2 don't crush this game. Ps2 runs at 1 fps lol
Maybe, if it comes to ps4. But dust probably will still have more to offer then just a open world and player count |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:36:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:Nope ps2 don't crash this game. Ps2 runs at 1 fps lol
Maybe, if it comes to ps4. But dust probably will still have more to offer then just a open world and player count
I can see you've thoroughly done your research.
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Django Quik
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.01.16 11:46:00 -
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How can you people possibly be comparing Dust to PS2? Dust is still a long way off from release. PS2 is on PC and has already been released for quite some time. You can't compare apples to pears.
Granted if Dust is exactly as it is now when it releases, it will be in serious trouble but there is absolutely 0% chance of this happening. Did any of you play the PS2 beta? That makes Dust look AAA. |
Noraa Anderson
Nox Aeterna Security
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Posted - 2013.01.16 12:15:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:How can you people possibly be comparing Dust to PS2?
Oh, I don't know, they're both free 2 play MMOFPS games which let you use vehicles and a variety of soldier classes, set in what are respectively meant to be persistent worlds. Oh, and Sony is behind them both. It's absolute nonsense that we compare them!
Dust is still a long way off from release. PS2 is on PC and has already been released for quite some time. You can't compare apples to pears.
Well that really depends what you're comparing between things.
Granted if Dust is exactly as it is now when it releases, it will be in serious trouble but there is absolutely 0% chance of this happening. Did any of you play the PS2 beta? That makes Dust look AAA.
The thing about these games is that there is no final package that will ever be delivered. As soon as they go public that's pretty much it, they're released, and they will continue to be updated for however long it is economically viable. The core mechanics of Dust haven't been nailed down and the content is meager. Dust 514 is going to get panned awfully from the 22nd if it stays the way it is now. That's if anyone really realises it's availble to play. |
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Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
45
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Posted - 2013.01.16 14:05:00 -
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Isn't DUST loading from a server? Which is why they can make the boundaries on a map as big as they want? I remember hearing something about how DUST loads from the server causing less strain in the ps3 which leaves more room for expansion. So they could be on par with ps2. I'm sure I heard something like that. |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2013.01.16 14:49:00 -
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Kiiran-B wrote:Isn't DUST loading from a server? Which is why they can make the boundaries on a map as big as they want? I remember hearing something about how DUST loads from the server causing less strain in the ps3 which leaves more room for expansion. So they could be on par with ps2. I'm sure I heard something like that.
LMAO |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:26:00 -
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lol ps2 has some people at 1fps teleporting everywhere 10 times worst then dust. yeah the game looks pretty and sound good. graphic are overated in that game. how can u compete in a game where some people 100 fps and some people 1 fps? at less in dust u can compete and not worry about thousands of people teleporting like dragon ball z characters lol |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.16 20:55:00 -
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Templar Eight
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.31 07:27:00 -
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Planetside 2 is the only game stopping Dust 514 from ever going onto PC |
MostFeared Beast
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
8
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Posted - 2013.01.31 23:08:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:DUST is meant to eventually have meaning combat where battles affect other players. PS2 has no meaning to its combat, you can fight in the same place for 5 hours straight and it can be fun, but once you and your outfit are offline, the randoms will lose that place you held for so long and you'll get pushed back again. Theres also the fact theres no reason to actually "win". And then theres the whole, if you're losing just switch to an alt and fight on a different continent, it's dull and boring. sad thing is........ppl wanna turn DUST into that as well
I don't want Dust to become like Planetside 2 I just would like to see some of the vehicles from planetside 2 in dust not identical but something like that. For example some fighters in the air sexy maybe some hover bikes would be awesome. I heard rumor that they might put something like exoskeletons. pretty interested to see how that works :] |
James Thraxton
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.01.31 23:25:00 -
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MostFeared Beast wrote:
I don't want Dust to become like Planetside 2 I just would like to see some of the vehicles from planetside 2 in dust not identical but something like that. For example some fighters in the air sexy maybe some hover bikes would be awesome. I heard rumor that they might put something like exoskeletons. pretty interested to see how that works :]
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