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sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:33:00 -
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Was playing a few games last night and in one we were lossing bad. 3 non npc corps one side 2 non npc corp and blue berries on the other... Well we were getting redlined and i noticed 4 blue berries just sitting in the mcc doing nothing but standing on nano hives and shooting at each other..... really just give up and hide up there while the battle continues to go badly, synergy gaming, why dont you get out in the battle field and help turn the tide???? is your kd ratio only good because you decide not to battle if someone better is opposing you?? |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:36:00 -
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Biggest problem I have with the game right now. People just give up and half a team can't win, especially if they were losing with a full team. |
Leviticus Krauthammer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:39:00 -
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That is the problem with pub matches, people don't care if they win or lose. It's all about farming ISK and SP. |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:41:00 -
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when its hopeless, i just become a campy sniper, which i despise |
Kamiya Musume
Suffer Inc.
63
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:44:00 -
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Get over it. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:45:00 -
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i have too agree it is anoying when my team is hopping around like bunnies in the mcc while im sacrificing my gear too atleast try and change the outcome |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:53:00 -
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sgt frig ganders wrote:Was playing a few games last night and in one we were lossing bad. 3 non npc corps one side 2 non npc corp and blue berries on the other... Well we were getting redlined and i noticed 4 blue berries just sitting in the mcc doing nothing but standing on nano hives and shooting at each other..... really just give up and hide up there while the battle continues to go badly, synergy gaming, why dont you get out in the battle field and help turn the tide???? is your kd ratio only good because you decide not to battle if someone better is opposing you??
Maybe they were trying to farm orbital strikes.
I had the same problem in a few battles last night. Eight guys in the hills and a few near the back spawn point. I did my best to pick up a few guys in an LAV and rush to the far objectives but we didn't make much progress in motivating the blueberries.
When things turn kitten just spawn a BPO suit and do something. Anything.
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D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:54:00 -
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sgt frig ganders wrote:Was playing a few games last night and in one we were lossing bad. 3 non npc corps one side 2 non npc corp and blue berries on the other... Well we were getting redlined and i....
noticed 4 blue berries just sitting in the mcc doing nothing but standing on nano hives and shooting at each other.....
really just give up and hide up there while the battle continues to go badly, synergy gaming, why dont you get out in the battle field and help turn the tide???? is your kd ratio only good because you decide not to battle if someone better is opposing you?? They are farming WP for Orbital Strikes... LAME. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:55:00 -
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I see several people with a proclivity for sniping who drop when they are losing. |
Andrew Ka
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:58:00 -
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I've seen this a lot of late. Like someone else said, I load a pure BPO suit, and so what I can. My KDR isn't some sacred calf to be protected. |
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:59:00 -
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At least they're not ragequitting so I can get sucked into one of their empty slots and spawn into a vast field of explosions and sniper fire. |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:00:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:I see several people with a proclivity for sniping who drop when they are losing. Guilty as charged!
BUT, only when the Red Team have full armour and some shields and the Blue Team has around 50% armour and no shields. |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:02:00 -
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Andrew Ka wrote:I've seen this a lot of late. Like someone else said, I load a pure BPO suit, and so what I can. My KDR isn't some sacred calf to be protected.
With the correct skills some of the bpo suits can be quite productive... |
NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:04:00 -
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If you are getting red lined by a tank now then i have nothing much to say. Just take out the free Anti Armor load out and pop a few rounds. I'm tired of going into the battle with half the team on top of the hills. 4 vs 4, 8 vs 4... its Still manageable. Not 12 vs 4 and you have the only objective. Please spawn in the CRU that has been hacked for you, when things go very south.... |
OrangeSauce
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:05:00 -
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These matches are mostly, not always, one sided. You either lose bad or win by a landslide. I have had a few good matches but only a few in all the months I've been playing. I'm hoping with the transition into open beta things will improve and make this game a little more like a game and less like a job. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:05:00 -
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Andrew Ka wrote:I've seen this a lot of late. Like someone else said, I load a pure BPO suit, and so what I can. My KDR isn't some sacred calf to be protected.
Surprisingly, my KDR is above 1.0. I don't expect it to stay that way for long. I'm a logistics with a tendency for suicide runs.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:07:00 -
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OrangeSauce wrote:These matches are mostly, not always, one sided. You either lose bad or win by a landslide. I have had a few good matches but only a few in all the months I've been playing. I'm hoping with the transition into open beta things will improve and make this game a little more like a game and less like a job.
I had one fantastic battle last night. Line Harvest skirmish and both teams were down to the wire on clones and MCC armor. It was one of the mythical good fights. Of course, the proceeding four battles were redline fests.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:10:00 -
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BPO suit ftw
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:12:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Surprisingly, my KDR is above 1.0. I don't expect it to stay that way for long. I'm a logistics with a tendency for suicide runs.
I'd be sad if mine dropped below 1.0, but what are you going to do when you're 'disposable' BPO suit has used up its equipment or ammo and there are no supply depots around? (90% odds for a quick death, 10% chance of getting a melee kill.)
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:13:00 -
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I get very annoyed when I see my teammates dropping from Ambush games because the other team is a coordinated corp squad and we're outnumbered and scattered.
I join, set up an Uplink, and try to turn the tide, then end up 4 vs. 1.
No thanks. |
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Noraa Anderson
Nox Aeterna Security
184
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:18:00 -
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Some people just get bored and if they're in a losing battle they don't have the grit or will to play properly anymore. Expect it a lot more in the open beta unless we get some serious new content. |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:19:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Surprisingly, my KDR is above 1.0. I don't expect it to stay that way for long. I'm a logistics with a tendency for suicide runs.
I'd be sad if mine dropped below 1.0, but what are you going to do when you're 'disposable' BPO suit has used up its equipment or ammo and there are no supply depots around? (90% odds for a quick death, 10% chance of getting a melee kill.)
Well As a logi I do really well with wp, really bad with KD, i am ok with that.... this game isnt your normal FPS... on COD i have a good kd ratio.... here i have a good dk ratio with lots of wp |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:24:00 -
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sgt frig ganders wrote:Was playing a few games last night and in one we were lossing bad. 3 non npc corps one side 2 non npc corp and blue berries on the other... Well we were getting redlined and i noticed 4 blue berries just sitting in the mcc doing nothing but standing on nano hives and shooting at each other..... really just give up and hide up there while the battle continues to go badly, synergy gaming, why dont you get out in the battle field and help turn the tide???? is your kd ratio only good because you decide not to battle if someone better is opposing you?? Sleepy Zan (Imperfects) is actively promoting this activity. It is his solution to the Daily SP Cap. He has a posting about it.
Saw him squatting behind two Hives in my MCC in a public Skirmish a day or so ago.
I would like those that don't leave the MCC to lose 2XSP. Hey, split it up among those that actually play, during the Beta Testing phase of the Beta Test. Let it override their SP cap.
Of course, his other activity he actively promotes is driving LAVs over Blue Snipers and I would love the same Negative SP solution for that as well. Spotting friendly vehicle kills in game logs should be a simple programming pass (lot of Ruby at EVE server land). Come to think of it, spotting the MCC squatters should be just about as easy.
Both actions seem like Kitten Excrement to me. But, hey, that is just me. |
Ambiuris Zinum
EL Azteca Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:30:00 -
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That is way there are corp battles. You run with your crew the guys that are going to back you up. And if that continue to happen you will start to lose world you are trying to conquer. Tip |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:38:00 -
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sgt frig ganders wrote:Was playing a few games last night and in one we were lossing bad. 3 non npc corps one side 2 non npc corp and blue berries on the other... Well we were getting redlined and i noticed 4 blue berries just sitting in the mcc doing nothing but standing on nano hives and shooting at each other..... really just give up and hide up there while the battle continues to go badly, synergy gaming, why dont you get out in the battle field and help turn the tide???? is your kd ratio only good because you decide not to battle if someone better is opposing you??
if it's a high sec pub match no one cares about your petty "victory" do corp battles or something |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:46:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:if it's a high sec pub match no one cares about your petty "victory" do corp battles or something
I dont care about victory or kd. I am hear for the enjoyment of playing a game. We are about to have an influx of new players come in and if tactics like this are being employed it could turn off people to the game... If you are in a respectable corp play accordingly is all i ask. |
Duo H Maxwell
SyNergy Gaming
38
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:50:00 -
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lolpubs, pretty sure we were fighting at C for a long while all the while dealing with lolmurdertaxis and snipers destroying the bluedots all over the objective while we carried you scrubs. Pretty sure all your guys went negative and ours went positive, so you tell me who was doing more for the team.
Call my corp out and I'll respond. Wanna skip the lil forum trash talk? Then nut up and set up a match.
P.S. - Oh yeah and ask your scrubby ass corp how many times we wrecked yall in corp battles back in Codex then come talk to me.
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:51:00 -
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sgt frig ganders wrote:Was playing a few games last night and in one we were lossing bad. 3 non npc corps one side 2 non npc corp and blue berries on the other... Well we were getting redlined and i noticed 4 blue berries just sitting in the mcc doing nothing but standing on nano hives and shooting at each other..... really just give up and hide up there while the battle continues to go badly, synergy gaming, why dont you get out in the battle field and help turn the tide???? is your kd ratio only good because you decide not to battle if someone better is opposing you??
lulz when u have corps teamstack the opposing team and its just ur 4 corp mates fighting and a bunch of ****** blue dots that dont know how to setup on an objective and hold it ur fighting a losing battle
our kd is good because sadly we have to carry most of the randoms on our team much like any other good corp
also on a key note the red dots on the other team we already beat them when it matters in corp matches personally speakin i just get on to hit my SP cap and log off as this game is boring and pubs are boring if u good sir want to try hard in a pub then so be it but at least have the common sense to kno when u hold the majority of the points on a skirmish game u dont simply abandon objectives and chase kills which is what 99% of the blue dots do. Countless times there was no one on A becuz smurfs capped it and abandoned it to chase kills instead of the win.
if u doubt our skill ur more than welcome to challenge us to a match where we actually try but i do believe we have played yall multiple times already
so long story short. blue dots.......get better my shoulders are aching. |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:54:00 -
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Duo H Maxwell wrote:lolpubs, pretty sure we were fighting at C for a long while all the while dealing with lolmurdertaxis and snipers destroying the bluedots all over the objective while we carried you scrubs. Pretty sure all your guys went negative and ours went positive, so you tell me who was doing more for the team. Call my corp out and I'll respond. Wanna skip the lil forum trash talk? Then nut up and set up a match. P.S. - Oh yeah and ask your scrubby ass corp how many times we wrecked yall in corp battles back in Codex then come talk to me.
Carried would emplied the match was won, and no where did i say that i was gods gift to the game. So where the name calling came in idk. You find me on the battle field being dishonorable call me out on it :) |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:54:00 -
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sgt frig ganders wrote:Sobriety Denied wrote:if it's a high sec pub match no one cares about your petty "victory" do corp battles or something I dont care about victory or kd. I am hear for the enjoyment of playing a game. We are about to have an influx of new players come in and if tactics like this are being employed it could turn off people to the game... If you are in a respectable corp play accordingly is all i ask.
funny u mention tactics some ppl should learn some instead of chasing kills all the time and learn to setup for those seeking lessons i heard zitro is giving them for free too
Pro tip: when u start on the GOOD side of that map and u get to A and C before they even cap B u dont need to push B but rather can just box them in and game over |
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Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:57:00 -
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sgt frig ganders wrote:Sobriety Denied wrote:if it's a high sec pub match no one cares about your petty "victory" do corp battles or something I dont care about victory or kd. I am hear for the enjoyment of playing a game. We are about to have an influx of new players come in and if tactics like this are being employed it could turn off people to the game... If you are in a respectable corp play accordingly is all i ask.
maybe they're enjoying the game differently then you are and your over achieving every match is griefing the ppl you're complaining about |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:57:00 -
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Thranx1231 wrote:sgt frig ganders wrote:Was playing a few games last night and in one we were lossing bad. 3 non npc corps one side 2 non npc corp and blue berries on the other... Well we were getting redlined and i noticed 4 blue berries just sitting in the mcc doing nothing but standing on nano hives and shooting at each other..... really just give up and hide up there while the battle continues to go badly, synergy gaming, why dont you get out in the battle field and help turn the tide???? is your kd ratio only good because you decide not to battle if someone better is opposing you?? Sleepy Zan (Imperfects) is actively promoting this activity. It is his solution to the Daily SP Cap. He has a posting about it. Saw him squatting behind two Hives in my MCC in a public Skirmish a day or so ago. I would like those that don't leave the MCC to lose 2XSP. Hey, split it up among those that actually play, during the Beta Testing phase of the Beta Test. Let it override their SP cap. Of course, his other activity he actively promotes is driving LAVs over Blue Snipers and I would love the same Negative SP solution for that as well. Spotting friendly vehicle kills in game logs should be a simple programming pass (lot of Ruby at EVE server land). Come to think of it, spotting the MCC squatters should be just about as easy. Both actions seem like Kitten Excrement to me. But, hey, that is just me.
can u blame ppl for sitting in the MCC the daily cap is a joke **** i know ppl that log on to just sit in the mcc to reach their cap and log off blame CCP for not listening to feedback and instead implementing the worst version of the SP cap yet |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:57:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:also on a key note the red dots on the other team we already beat them when it matters in corp matches personally speakin i just get on to hit my SP cap and log off as this game is boring and pubs are boring if u good sir want to try hard in a pub then so be it but at least have the common sense to kno when u hold the majority of the points on a skirmish game u dont simply abandon objectives and chase kills which is what 99% of the blue dots do.
Sad that the game is going to just get the sp cap and log, and i agree with the blue dots chasing kills and not hold objective, any ideas on what can be done to improve the comunications so even in pubs teams can work together?
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Duo H Maxwell
SyNergy Gaming
38
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:59:00 -
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#30Posted: 2013.01.15 15:54 Mavado V Noriega wrote: funny u mention tactics some ppl should learn some instead of chasing kills all the time and learn to setup for those seeking lessons i heard zitro is giving them for free too
^Hahaha and with that I leave this thread to all its QQing glory. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2013.01.15 16:05:00 -
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sgt frig ganders wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:also on a key note the red dots on the other team we already beat them when it matters in corp matches personally speakin i just get on to hit my SP cap and log off as this game is boring and pubs are boring if u good sir want to try hard in a pub then so be it but at least have the common sense to kno when u hold the majority of the points on a skirmish game u dont simply abandon objectives and chase kills which is what 99% of the blue dots do. Sad that the game is going to just get the sp cap and log, and i agree with the blue dots chasing kills and not hold objective, any ideas on what can be done to improve the comunications so even in pubs teams can work together?
couple 1 ccp still has voice comms set to OFF by default (REALLY CCP?!) 2 when in game it should auto put squads on team chat instead this way peeps with mics can talk
right now there is 0 incentive to play this "game" other than hit ur bogus daily cap and log off other games are much better and actually fun atm, DUST is a job atm because of the daily cap it forces everyone to get on everyday so they dont fall behind so some ppl choose to afk in mcc all game while they go do something else because they cant play everyday but dont wanna fall behind
improving teamwork is futile anyway in Pubs if MAG thought me anything its that even if u put all the tools there for teamwork u cant tell another person how they should enjoy their game or how they should play.
Many times on MAG i would be platoon leader giving blue dots directions on where to setup and would get cussed and insulted over the mic because blue dots didnt wanna hear wtf i had to say even tho i was giving very good help
MAG thought me to just say **** all smurfs and play my own game. for me when i want tactics and teamwork we look for corp battles because u have 2 corps and no randoms goin at it
PS: next time u wanna call ppl out analyse what was goin on on the battlefield 1st before typing a QQ thread. When i join a game and try my best to win it and see blue dots not givin a **** and abandoning objectives then i wont give a **** either. No reason we should be carryin blue dots to free wins EVERY ******* game **** becomes annoying |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
639
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Posted - 2013.01.15 16:54:00 -
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Oh LOOOOOL...
This "community"... smh. I think Mavado pretty much nailed it when he said we play hard when it matters. Feel free to hit us up for a match |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2013.01.15 17:20:00 -
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2 things, you join a losing game, even if you do go try change it, are you going to use your best gear? Unlikely. Secondly don't blame those players for CCP putting in a really bad SP system.
AFK mining and AFK Dusting... Now I need to find something to do while I'm AFK. |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 17:26:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:[ 1 ccp still has voice comms set to OFF by default (REALLY CCP?!) 2 when in game it should auto put squads on team chat instead this way peeps with mics can talk
Well I will be getting my Squads that i run to move to the team channel on every game.... maybe if more people do this we can work together more ofter :) Here is to hope anyway. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.01.15 17:32:00 -
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I can't miss a chance to troll my buddy mavado and his not even decent corp of scrubs, but sadly he is right. This game is nothing but sp capping and doing something else. I leave my alts in mcc to get sp and do soemthing else. I just run all bpo suits and care not for my kdr but you can cap sp by sitting in mcc for 2 hours why would i bother to actually play the game?
Yeah CCP we are ready for open beta. keep telling yourself that. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1899
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:02:00 -
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People just try to preserve their K/D and farm WP so they can feel good by being on the leaderboards.
I love the leaderboards because it's a great way to find out who sucks >_< |
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Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
334
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:06:00 -
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LOL what a great post.
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R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:15:00 -
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The underlying problem is what should people do when the battle is clearly lost, but there's still 15 minutes until the timer expires?
There was a discussion about this over in feedback/requests a while back, the idea being raised that if one team can't even attempt to hack objectives then their MCC will start slowly withdrawing, so the match will end early and avoid wasting everyone's time.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
639
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:21:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:People just try to preserve their K/D and farm WP so they can feel good by being on the leaderboards.
I love the leaderboards because it's a great way to find out who sucks >_<
Normally I won't reply to these kinds of posts, but this is something i will address.
We at SyNergy Gaming have NO PART of "farming WP". That's boosting, and we don't tolerate boosters / cheaters. Call us scrubs, make us out to be not even decent, don't add us to your lolpower rankings... IDGAF... but calling us cheaters or boosters farming WP is something I would speak up about.
So kindly re-direct this comment to some other scrub corp. Thank you.
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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:22:00 -
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a surrender basically? |
Daxos Cavaletto
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
74
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:25:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People just try to preserve their K/D and farm WP so they can feel good by being on the leaderboards.
I love the leaderboards because it's a great way to find out who sucks >_< Normally I won't reply to these kinds of posts, but this is something i will address. We at SyNergy Gaming have NO PART of "farming WP". That's boosting, and we don't tolerate boosters / cheaters. Call us scrubs, make us out to be not even decent, don't add us to your lolpower rankings... IDGAF... but calling us cheaters or boosters farming WP is something I would speak up about. So kindly re-direct this comment to some other scrub corp. Thank you.
I have played with lance his kdr is the least of his worries I mean he spends like all the time worrying about his hair in the warbarge before the match. Really has screwed up priorities if you ask me. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
639
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:31:00 -
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Daxos Cavaletto wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People just try to preserve their K/D and farm WP so they can feel good by being on the leaderboards.
I love the leaderboards because it's a great way to find out who sucks >_< Normally I won't reply to these kinds of posts, but this is something i will address. We at SyNergy Gaming have NO PART of "farming WP". That's boosting, and we don't tolerate boosters / cheaters. Call us scrubs, make us out to be not even decent, don't add us to your lolpower rankings... IDGAF... but calling us cheaters or boosters farming WP is something I would speak up about. So kindly re-direct this comment to some other scrub corp. Thank you. I have played with lance his kdr is the least of his worries I mean he spends like all the time worrying about his hair in the warbarge before the match. Really has screwed up priorities if you ask me.
hey hey... if you're not decent then you at least have to look decent! |
theschizogenious
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:32:00 -
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best advice i can give to people is join a corp any corp where there are people to play with try to join one that requires mics because the difference between the effectiveness in two skill and gear equaled teams is the one that is more vocal to eachother.
there have been plenty of games where my team was being slapped around but that doesnt mean give up! instead you should grab a mic hop on team chat and try to get as organized as you can.
how fast do you suppose an opposing team of randoms be to respond if they suddenly get two of their objectives hacked? most likely their redline of you will fall apart as they attempt to get back to the objectives for the points. which is another thing 9/10 times you are facing randoms they will wait to hand the obj over to the other team for 100 points, dont be that guy defuse the hack and go kill 2 people earn those points because no single hack is worth losing an objective over.
oh and if you're killed while defending a hacked obj dont just bleed out right away count to 5 and then bleed out especially if the hostile is waiting to hack the objective back that way when it turns to your side you can spawn in and defend the objective before they fininsh rehacking it. poof! insta-defender. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
968
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:32:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:a surrender basically?
That's better than stuffing more clones into the meat grinder with no hope of payback.
Once it's mathematically impossible to win either through clone depletion or NCs automate the surrender and let the players get on with another match. That way people will know when there is a chance and continue fighting rather than give up early and we can eliminate the dreary boredom of a redline on both sides.
It's the boredom that is the real enthusiasm killer. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:32:00 -
[49] - Quote
If a battle is hopeless, why bother? I am not going to feed the enemy team more kills and points when the match is so heavily unbalanced. Plus unless it's a corp match, who cares if you win or lose. I care more about losing ISK and gaining deaths than I do about winning a pointless pub match.
Until winning pub matches actually means something in this game, I certainly won't sacrifice my hard earned ISK more than I need to. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:39:00 -
[50] - Quote
DJINN leukoplast wrote:If a battle is hopeless, why bother? I am not going to feed the enemy team more kills and points when the match is so heavily unbalanced. Plus unless it's a corp match, who cares if you win or lose. I care more about losing ISK and gaining deaths than I do about winning a pointless pub match.
Until winning pub matches actually means something in this game, I certainly won't sacrifice my hard earned ISK more than I need to.
I hate losing any match even public and clicked on this with every intention to troll you, but I pretty much agree with you. So you have a reprieve. This time. |
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sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
DJINN leukoplast wrote:If a battle is hopeless, why bother? I am not going to feed the enemy team more kills and points when the match is so heavily unbalanced. Plus unless it's a corp match, who cares if you win or lose. I care more about losing ISK and gaining deaths than I do about winning a pointless pub match.
Until winning pub matches actually means something in this game, I certainly won't sacrifice my hard earned ISK more than I need to.
As stated before dont waste isk build a bpo suit that you can lose in and maybe turn the tides... |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:42:00 -
[52] - Quote
Free Beers wrote:I hate losing any match even public and clicked on this with every intention to troll you, but I pretty much agree with you. So you have a reprieve. This time.
LOL @ Free Beers thats 2 times you came in to troll and agreed instead, |
theschizogenious
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:44:00 -
[53] - Quote
sgt frig ganders wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:If a battle is hopeless, why bother? I am not going to feed the enemy team more kills and points when the match is so heavily unbalanced. Plus unless it's a corp match, who cares if you win or lose. I care more about losing ISK and gaining deaths than I do about winning a pointless pub match.
Until winning pub matches actually means something in this game, I certainly won't sacrifice my hard earned ISK more than I need to. As stated before dont waste isk build a bpo suit that you can lose in and maybe turn the tides...
see you cant reason with him he is in a noobs mindset "oh my god im facing a real challenge what should i do now?" "i know ill just quit because this match is too hard and go find an easy match where i can look super L337 |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:52:00 -
[54] - Quote
sgt frig ganders wrote:Free Beers wrote:I hate losing any match even public and clicked on this with every intention to troll you, but I pretty much agree with you. So you have a reprieve. This time. LOL @ Free Beers thats 2 times you came in to troll and agreed instead,
Yeah, well, I going to have to troll extra hard today. I don't want people to think I am going soft.
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BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:52:00 -
[55] - Quote
sgt frig ganders wrote:Andrew Ka wrote:I've seen this a lot of late. Like someone else said, I load a pure BPO suit, and so what I can. My KDR isn't some sacred calf to be protected. With the correct skills some of the bpo suits can be quite productive...
Being the cheap bastards SMERG are known to be, me and my bro ranked 1st and 2nd most matches last night and we ran nothing but BPO fits. Sure it ruins the whole risk aspect, but we're saving up until we skill into decent crap. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:53:00 -
[56] - Quote
theschizogenious wrote:sgt frig ganders wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:If a battle is hopeless, why bother? I am not going to feed the enemy team more kills and points when the match is so heavily unbalanced. Plus unless it's a corp match, who cares if you win or lose. I care more about losing ISK and gaining deaths than I do about winning a pointless pub match.
Until winning pub matches actually means something in this game, I certainly won't sacrifice my hard earned ISK more than I need to. As stated before dont waste isk build a bpo suit that you can lose in and maybe turn the tides... see you cant reason with him he is in a noobs mindset "oh my god im facing a real challenge what should i do now?" "i know ill just quit because this match is too hard and go find an easy match where i can look super L337
tbqh challenges are in corp matches, if corps play pubs for challenges then god help this community/game because no wonder ppl barely get corp matches everyone is in the pubzone pubs are for SP grind/hit cap/relax/attempt to have fun
goin tryhard in pubs when u got 12 other blue dots will raise ur blood pressure because here u are giving ur all against a teamstack and ur bluedots just dont know wtf to do
@Sgt building a BPO suit wont help u much either if ur not turning the tides in ur best gear u think downgrading will help that? dafuq? :/ |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:58:00 -
[57] - Quote
Mavado V Noriega wrote:@Sgt building a BPO suit wont help u much either if ur not turning the tides in ur best gear u think downgrading will help that? dafuq? :/
Its going to accomplish more then sitting in the mcc. Free suit free lav and you can go and hack some key points. And SC has turned the game around doing just that. |
Dino Malice
Conspiratus Immortalis
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:13:00 -
[58] - Quote
In war currency sustains the armies.losing for no isk reward is pretty brutal. Guarantee salvage to the victor and deny any to the loser. Simple solution. People will bust their ass if they know Balac or Gatsun are on the line |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:13:00 -
[59] - Quote
sgt frig ganders wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:@Sgt building a BPO suit wont help u much either if ur not turning the tides in ur best gear u think downgrading will help that? dafuq? :/ Its going to accomplish more then sitting in the mcc. Free suit free lav and you can go and hack some key points. And SC has turned the game around doing just that.
we've turned many games around, its not really fun all the time when ur doin all the work its actually frustrating most times seeing the obv lack of teamwork blues have that particular game sorry to say but our blue dots were being more useless than usual and an lav wont get u far with swarms and installations not on that map.
and lol @ accomplishing more than sitting in mcc............if only ppl had that same mentality when we redline them in corp matches, aka matches where u actually suppose to be giving ur all with ur full team, maybe the majority of our corp matches would actually be fun but alas.......... |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
639
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:14:00 -
[60] - Quote
sgt frig ganders wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:@Sgt building a BPO suit wont help u much either if ur not turning the tides in ur best gear u think downgrading will help that? dafuq? :/ Its going to accomplish more then sitting in the mcc. Free suit free lav and you can go and hack some key points. And SC has turned the game around doing just that.
Yeah, it'll accomplish an Orbital Strike for the enemy team quicker. More kills for them, more WP...
Free LAV's and suits won't save you when you're redlined... lol. Militia swarms will take you out before you even leave deployment. On the 3 point map, even better yet!
I realize it's pointless arguing with you, as you're on of those people who thinks there's always a way to win. In reality people lose buddy, regardless of how much effort people put in. A stacked team vs 1 squad + useless blueberries...who do you think will win?
Why get frustrated in the process of losing a pub? Better to just chill in the MCC, smoke a cig, drink something, and wait for the next map and hope it's not stacked.
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:15:00 -
[61] - Quote
Dino Malice wrote:In war currency sustains the armies.losing for no isk reward is pretty brutal. Guarantee salvage to the victor and deny any to the loser. Simple solution. People will bust their ass if they know Balac or Gatsun are on the line
pretty sure we have this already......oh wait......most corps dont battle................................ |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:47:00 -
[62] - Quote
Those who sit in the MCC are a joke. There is no excuse. They are just afraid to hurt their stats, which means their stats can easily be ignored.
I love running out into a battle we are losing and seeing what I can do to change that, even in a small way. I dont care if the effort is for nothing in the end, you still get to learn from your mistakes and improve.
I have run out into a losing battle many times with only a couple corp mates beside me. It was great fun to see that we could take objectives and take out their snipers giving people such a hard time. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
334
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:55:00 -
[63] - Quote
SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Those who sit in the MCC are a joke. There is no excuse. They are just afraid to hurt their stats, which means their stats can easily be ignored.
Know who's stats can be ignored? The guy who goes 3-17 in a corp match. I bet most people who are familiar with losing don't mind it. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
968
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:05:00 -
[64] - Quote
sgt frig ganders wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:@Sgt building a BPO suit wont help u much either if ur not turning the tides in ur best gear u think downgrading will help that? dafuq? :/ Its going to accomplish more then sitting in the mcc. Free suit free lav and you can go and hack some key points. And SC has turned the game around doing just that.
Then the match wasn't already lost. But what about when the is clearly no possible hope of winning?
Do you keep running your head into that brick wall over and over? Throw away BPO after BPO just to have something to do for the next two minutes?
You could, but being repeatedly slaughtered for no good reason is not all that appealing to me.
Standing on the other side of the redline waiting for a red dot to emerge for the slaughter is also boring. There is no challenge. Will you get him with your sniper rife before your buddy gets him with his FG? Meanwhile everyone else stands around waiting for match end so they can have some fun?
Just end the misery on both sides and have a surrender.
Redline snoozfests will kill this game faster than anything else. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:09:00 -
[65] - Quote
Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Those who sit in the MCC are a joke. There is no excuse. They are just afraid to hurt their stats, which means their stats can easily be ignored. Know who's stats can be ignored? The guy who goes 3-17 in a corp match. I bet most people who are familiar with losing don't mind it.
Would you say taking your tank and hiding in your own redline under a canopy (to avoid strikes), once you've realized your team sucks and are up against capable opponents to avoid losing your tank or stats is acceptable? |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1899
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:10:00 -
[66] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People just try to preserve their K/D and farm WP so they can feel good by being on the leaderboards.
I love the leaderboards because it's a great way to find out who sucks >_< Normally I won't reply to these kinds of posts, but this is something i will address. We at SyNergy Gaming have NO PART of "farming WP". That's boosting, and we don't tolerate boosters / cheaters. Call us scrubs, make us out to be not even decent, don't add us to your lolpower rankings... IDGAF... but calling us cheaters or boosters farming WP is something I would speak up about. So kindly re-direct this comment to some other scrub corp. Thank you.
I find it very amusing that you took such offense to this, when it was literally aimed at no one other than boosters and farmers >_<
Way to call yourself out |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:12:00 -
[67] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:I find it very amusing that you took such offense to this, when it was literally aimed at no one other than boosters and farmers >_< Way to call yourself out
His response was obviously overreaction, but in no way was "calling himself out". If you've ever played with\against SYN... you'd know. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
334
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:14:00 -
[68] - Quote
fahrenheitM wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Those who sit in the MCC are a joke. There is no excuse. They are just afraid to hurt their stats, which means their stats can easily be ignored. Know who's stats can be ignored? The guy who goes 3-17 in a corp match. I bet most people who are familiar with losing don't mind it. Would you say taking your tank and hiding in your own redline under a canopy (to avoid strikes), once you've realized your team sucks and are up against capable opponents to avoid losing your tank or stats is acceptable?
I would say thats fairly homosexual yes. But is he protected cuz he just skilled up and bought an expensive tank and its his only one? Or is he like you said protecting his stats. Depends, earlier in a wipe like this i could understand if someone doesn't want to lose their expensive tank with a useless team. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:15:00 -
[69] - Quote
Reav Hannari wrote:sgt frig ganders wrote:Was playing a few games last night and in one we were lossing bad. 3 non npc corps one side 2 non npc corp and blue berries on the other... Well we were getting redlined and i noticed 4 blue berries just sitting in the mcc doing nothing but standing on nano hives and shooting at each other..... really just give up and hide up there while the battle continues to go badly, synergy gaming, why dont you get out in the battle field and help turn the tide???? is your kd ratio only good because you decide not to battle if someone better is opposing you?? Maybe they were trying to farm orbital strikes. I had the same problem in a few battles last night. Eight guys in the hills and a few near the back spawn point. I did my best to pick up a few guys in an LAV and rush to the far objectives but we didn't make much progress in motivating the blueberries. When things turn kitten just spawn a BPO suit and do something. Anything.
just use that LAV to run over the people who are SP farming in the back, hell even if all 8 of them were sniping i would have tried to run them over with the LAV, kill them a couple times and BOOM they'll either move on, or waste their time trying to deal with you, which IMO is what they diserve if there gonna waste your time by not trying |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:17:00 -
[70] - Quote
Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: I would say thats fairly homosexual yes. But is he protected cuz he just skilled up and bought an expensive tank and its his only one? Or is he like you said protecting his stats. Depends, earlier in a wipe like this i could understand if someone doesn't want to lose their expensive tank with a useless team.
I've seen this by your very own members since the wipe. I don't really find it any different than the guys that switch to BPO's to run out and get slaughtered, they are just being more conscientious regarding stats\isk. |
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Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
334
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:20:00 -
[71] - Quote
fahrenheitM wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: I would say thats fairly homosexual yes. But is he protected cuz he just skilled up and bought an expensive tank and its his only one? Or is he like you said protecting his stats. Depends, earlier in a wipe like this i could understand if someone doesn't want to lose their expensive tank with a useless team.
I've seen this by your very own members since the wipe. I don't really find it any different than the guys that switch to BPO's to run out and get slaughtered, they are just being more conscientious regarding stats\isk.
So someone from SyN didn't want to lose a tank cause they had a useless team and sat in spawn. This has never been done before.. I don't really see what your point is, are you saying its a problem that we don't want to lose ISK/Gear/Vehicles? Ahhhh but of course why would it be about that at alll!! It must be about the STATS!!!!.
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fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:24:00 -
[72] - Quote
Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: So someone from SyN didn't want to lose a tank cause they had a useless team and sat in spawn. This has never been done before.. I don't really see what your point is, are you saying its a problem that we don't want to lose ISK/Gear/Vehicles? Ahhhh but of course why would it be about that at alll!! It must be about the STATS!!!!.
That's not the point. I could care less what you guys do, just addressing the finger pointing about people not trying... using BPO's all the time, etc... when their own people do similar. You have your own motive, others have their own.. but trying to tell each other how they should play the game...
End the end it always ends up meaningless banter, my apologies. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:24:00 -
[73] - Quote
doublepost |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:31:00 -
[74] - Quote
Skihids wrote:
Do you keep running your head into that brick wall over and over? Throw away BPO after BPO just to have something to do for the next two minutes?
If it was last last few minutes of the battle no issue imo. but this wasnt the last 2 minutes this was clearly giving up on the battle with our sides shields gone, and there side maybe 50% shields gone. Also i have won battles with being all capped and red lined by taking out all their clones. There are plenty of productive things that can be done... if we have 25% armor left and they red still has shields, and a high clone count yeah give up.
As far as protecting a tank....i person one tank.... trying to save it.... no problem... big difference then 4 people just sitting in the mcc. 3 persons 1 tank.... same as sittiing in the mcc.. again imo. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
639
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:33:00 -
[75] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People just try to preserve their K/D and farm WP so they can feel good by being on the leaderboards.
I love the leaderboards because it's a great way to find out who sucks >_< Normally I won't reply to these kinds of posts, but this is something i will address. We at SyNergy Gaming have NO PART of "farming WP". That's boosting, and we don't tolerate boosters / cheaters. Call us scrubs, make us out to be not even decent, don't add us to your lolpower rankings... IDGAF... but calling us cheaters or boosters farming WP is something I would speak up about. So kindly re-direct this comment to some other scrub corp. Thank you. I find it very amusing that you took such offense to this, when it was literally aimed at no one other than boosters and farmers >_< Way to call yourself out
You commented in a thread directed at us...how else should I take "People just try to preserve their K/D and farm WP so they can feel good by being on the leaderboards."??
Anyway, I said what I needed to say on this matter. If you look at these same leaderboards you're referring to, let me know where we're at.
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Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:41:00 -
[76] - Quote
If your MCC still has half or more armor while being redlined, it is not over! Have come back many times turnig the redline around on an opposing team. Usually come in late to a game with a squad and are able to accomplish this, grant it that the opposing team probably was never really that good to begin with.
So up to the point where your MCC still has half armor, one should be fighting like hell to get those NCs back. I also find it a personal challenge to ninja my way across when my team is getting redlined, and pat my self on the back saying "if I can do this why can't others?"
I agree on keeping expensive gear in tact through the batlle, but scratch my head when people call in tanks, while being redlined, and do nothing but sit in the back with them?
I am the type of person that hates losing, no matter what the game is. So to simply give up isn't in my nature and I push out of redline until the armor is below half after that the game is a lost cause and thats when I say "F it!, can't beat'em join 'em." Pull out my militia sniper and start clicking heads. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:16:00 -
[77] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: let me know where we're at.
By the leaderboards, you're actually one of the top corps... not in volume but in quality. You know this, as does anyone with a brain. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:21:00 -
[78] - Quote
Funny thing is....I've actually been in matches where our team (in regards to one match in particular) almost immediately steam-rolled the opposing team. They never hacked an objective, never took a CRU, hardly poked their heads out of the red-line because we had a stacked team with a few different corps. It was so boring a match that we left. The sparse amount of ISK and SP would have been nice, but there's no sport in that type of match. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:23:00 -
[79] - Quote
fahrenheitM wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: let me know where we're at.
By the leaderboards, you're actually one of the top corps... not in volume but in quality. You know this, as does anyone with a brain.
Just tell him he is pretty and you will make a interweb friend for life. he isn't much on learderboard stuff. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
968
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:26:00 -
[80] - Quote
Belzeebub Santana wrote:If your MCC still has half or more armor while being redlined, it is not over! Have come back many times turnig the redline around on an opposing team. Usually come in late to a game with a squad and are able to accomplish this, grant it that the opposing team probably was never really that good to begin with.
So up to the point where your MCC still has half armor, one should be fighting like hell to get those NCs back. I also find it a personal challenge to ninja my way across when my team is getting redlined, and pat my self on the back saying "if I can do this why can't others?"
I agree on keeping expensive gear in tact through the batlle, but scratch my head when people call in tanks, while being redlined, and do nothing but sit in the back with them?
I am the type of person that hates losing, no matter what the game is. So to simply give up isn't in my nature and I push out of redline until the armor is below half after that the game is a lost cause and thats when I say "F it!, can't beat'em join 'em." Pull out my militia sniper and start clicking heads.
You should fight hard up to the point of a sure loss, but no further. OTOH, if some didn't give up and exit the match before it was a sure loss you wouldn't have entered to turn it around (unless the teams weren't filled/even to start).
That makes it a bit fuzzy. If your current team is getting rolled despite your best efforts when do you throw in the towel? When is it just no longer worth pushing a public match? Certainly when it's mathematically impossible to win, but there's a fuzzy area where it's well nigh impossible with the current team. |
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fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:28:00 -
[81] - Quote
Free Beers wrote:
Just tell him he is pretty and you will make a interweb friend for life. he isn't much on learderboard stuff.
Mavado wouldn't allow me to be friends with his peoples! We have historiez don't ya'z know! this is serius biznets.
only kidding numbz |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:38:00 -
[82] - Quote
Reiki Jubo wrote:a surrender basically?
Perhaps make it a vote for the squad leaders or something, Idk.
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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:44:00 -
[83] - Quote
Kovak Therim wrote:Reiki Jubo wrote:a surrender basically? Perhaps make it a vote for the squad leaders or something, Idk.
i think its whacked 4 people to camp out in the MCC. says alot about u, really. the OP is dead on. another reason CCP has to make people care about winning. zero ISK for losses except in low level ambush (30-60,00 isk) matches. for mid tier and top tier matches with higher returns? no win/no money.
let me see u roast marshmellows in the MCC now. |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:49:00 -
[84] - Quote
I will never camp out when losing, but it's tough to get up the urge to fight back when the other half of the team doesn't give a s***. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:51:00 -
[85] - Quote
Kovak Therim wrote:I will never camp out when losing, but it's tough to get up the urge to fight back when the other half of the team doesn't give a s***. FACT.
Still though, I'd rather go down fighting than just give up. |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:54:00 -
[86] - Quote
Polish Hammer wrote:Kovak Therim wrote:I will never camp out when losing, but it's tough to get up the urge to fight back when the other half of the team doesn't give a s***. FACT. Still though, I'd rather go down fighting than just give up.
I usually do.
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KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.01.16 06:03:00 -
[87] - Quote
Excuse me for showing up late to this. I had read it as it developed but apparently missed the last page and a half.
You are talking about two separate things are you not? I understood it that way. Maybe I am misreading it.
The trailing end of the thread has a valid point about fighting a lost battle.
It can be tough to jump back into a completely lost battle. When Dust is at the Release version and we are in a Corp vs Corp battle it would be interesting to see if the Battle Commander (love the sound of that) would or even could pull back? MCC's have to be very expensive considering the biggest HAV is 1.3M ISK and fully equipped is closer to 2M+ ISK. Pulling the MCC out would save a lot of ISK.
But the OP was about noobs and slackers that aren't doing anything except gathering SP by sitting in the MCC goofing and gaming, sometimes successfully, the system.
With the full experience of the OP under my belt a few too many times it is really irritating to be in the lost without hope battle in the first place because nearly half the crew is actually doing nothing or nearly so. Hiding, sitting in the MCC with Hives and various other activities beyond the Oppositions Red Line. At least some of mine last useless ones were playing with grenades. One even killed himself.
I don't have a real resolution but they are significantly different conditions. Personally I hate getting forced into a lost cause because of slackers. But just going on into a lost cause is difficult either way. Without slackers quite commonly I will carry on. Try to take out more than me. Push to completion. Besides exiting the battle there is no other solution currently, that I know about anyway. Not that I know everything.
I made the commitment to the battle and I will try to carry it out. I will delay until the drop link isn't covered in Red Berries. I will try to take at least some out with me. If I am worried about ISK I equip a Zero Cost Suit (or nearly so). As long as I am not aiming myself at a gung ho KDR focused Corp that should be okay. KDR focus is fine but it does make continuing more personal. "XXYYZZ won't accept my application if my KDR drops .25", which sucks even thinking about it. Hopefully I won't be in that position. Trying to keep about 1.0 is tough with both side full of noobs. Worse when it is only your side that is full of them.
Both of positions are valid. And it is tough to resolve. Some have; others, not quite so much. |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.16 06:09:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Biggest problem I have with the game right now. People just give up and half a team can't win, especially if they were losing with a full team.
I was in a game of skrimish today, not calling any names out but 2 squads had Qsync in together and had the enemy team redlined. I just sat back and watch 2 tanks with 3 armor reps on each tank spawn trapping. i am not one for quitting,and refuse to,but this early in the build, lonewolf players know better than to even attempt to draw attention to those two squads. |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.01.16 13:25:00 -
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I would like to thank everyone who contributed to this discussion. I took some ideas back to my corp. We will be joining team chat in most battles, unless we are doing training sessions, and will work with any other teams that wish to join us in the team chat on pup games. |
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