Just like the Space Monkeys we will soon be getting Killmail- This is some of what I hope it will include

1. Load out of the suits you make kills on
2. Price of load out
3. The amount of damage you put on each kill - like EVE show others who also put on damage and how much
4. Efficiency = price of your kills/cost of your losses
5. Weapon(s) used
6. Salvaged gear? (not sure if we are actually salvaging gear from kills or it's random)

..... thoughts?

They need a match Kill Report. Where when you open it allows you to see individual kills. But the report shows total ISK destroyed / other stats. Then you will only get one per match, much less spammy.

They need a match Kill Report. Where when you open it allows you to see individual kills. But the report shows total ISK destroyed / other stats. Then you will only get one per match, much less spammy.

need? why need? Explain this need.

If, when they introduce killmail to Dust 514, it will be an invaluable source of intel.

Please elaborate. I can't think of any reason why Kill mail would be needed or even a valuable source of information. Seems to me if I want info on an enemy I can just... look at him?

Doesn't show fittings though. Just the suit type.

So you're actually asking is a way to snoop into peoples outfits so you can copy them?

So you're actually asking is a way to snoop into peoples outfits so you can copy them?

Or laugh at them.

Also, once corps start using standard fittings, figuring out better ways to kill them.

These killmails allow Corps to compare losses to gains for themselves as well as their enemies. Pure body count means nothing. If your Corp kills 100 of my corpmates (who are wearing Militia gear worth 10K each) but loses 10 of yours (who are wearing Proto gear worth 150K each) then we are winning the war because you lost 1.5 million ISK to our 1 million. Bodes mean nothing when you're Immortal. ISK is god.

Yes, I am quoting myself. Yes, I am a narcissist.

Killmail serve the above purpose: they are for Corps what invoices are for accountants. A report of your losses / earnings.

ISK is god.

We? So now kill mail is for corps to compare each other with? What's the point of leader boards then?

Are you saying you want it to track wars between corps? Cause killmail seems a little weak for that - cause that is a system i could get behind. A war mail system.

Everytime your corp makes an action that effects you an in game letter is sent explaining it. Then as the war progress a progression letter is sent showing statistics to both sides.

Otherwise no lol

We? So now kill mail is for corps to compare each other with? What's the point of leader boards then?

Are you saying you want it to track wars between corps? Cause killmail seems a little weak for that - cause that is a system i could get behind. A war mail system.

Everytime your corp makes an action that effects you an in game letter is sent explaining it. Then as the war progress a progression letter is sent showing statistics to both sides.

Otherwise no lol

Your ignoring the point, whether intentionally or no.

Leaderboards compare kills, deaths, WPs, etc... but not ISK.

EVE / DUST are about ISK. Everything is ISK. ISK is god. I am going to keep repeating this because it is the single biggest truth non EVE players (who want to survive in New Eden) need to learn. Killmail allows you to see how much ISK was lost / gained. If you don't care then ignore them. But for those who intend to run Corps and take control of parts of the Universe - they will eat up Killmail for all the juicy ISK statistics it has.

- How many Heavies did I lose?
- How many Heavies did my opponent lose?
- What weapons are fielded by my opponent (So I can disrupt their production and embargo him)
- How many times has X died?
- How much ISK has X player lost?
- What is their ISK / death ratio?

Thats only a fraction of what is possible. Go look at an EVE Killboard. Just because you may not use it heavily does not mean it shouldn't exist. They are infinitely helpful.

You sound from other posts like you've already written off DUST. It is not just another cookie cutter FPS. It is different. So if you're looking for a general FPS then sorry. DUST is different.

Just like the Space Monkeys we will soon be getting Killmail- This is some of what I hope it will include

1. Load out of the suits you make kills on
2. Price of load out
3. The amount of damage you put on each kill - like EVE show others who also put on damage and how much
4. Efficiency = price of your kills/cost of your losses
5. Weapon(s) used
6. Salvaged gear? (not sure if we are actually salvaging gear from kills or it's random)

..... thoughts?

my thoughts? If I got killmail for every kill my email would be so stacked I'd never once look at it. For an FPS game - this idea has very very little merit.

Yes. It is usual practice in EVE to use killmails to see what your enemy had equipped, the ISK value of their loss, and in many cases use bits of their fitting technique to improve your own.

These killmails allow Corps to compare losses to gains for themselves as well as their enemies. Pure body count means nothing. If your Corp kills 100 of my corpmates (who are wearing Militia gear worth 10K each) but loses 10 of yours (who are wearing Proto gear worth 150K each) then we are winning the war because you lost 1.5 million ISK to our 1 million. Bodes mean nothing when you're Immortal. ISK is god.

And when I said "They need to..." it's more of a "If they ever decide to implement a Killmail system it should probably be a per match Kill Report rather than a single entry per kill. For organization / lack of spam."

Exactly this, its a way to keep track for reimburments, intel on standard fittings and how to counter it.

It's very interesting actually.