DUST Search - The fall out of the two second timer

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

Enji Elric wrote:

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

Repe Susi wrote:

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

A 400HP damage MILITIA grenade OHK a 1100HP HEAVY suit??

Wouldn't know anything about that. If that's really the case, then it's bugged of course.

Doesn't change the fact that OP is whining about grenades boo hoo.

I have no problem with any weapon when its balanced.
The problem surfaces when theres an INbalance.
Just like the OHK of remote explosives imagine if SMG bullets or HMG bullets were OHK due to a glitch.

Then if folks post hey!! glitch and OP is it a whine or a legitimate concern over a broken game mechanic??
Imagine if it only took one to three HMG bullets to kill anything and everything what then??

when I kill with RE I use 3... and i can plant 5 so yea your not getting hit by ONE

E3 Build it was ONE Remote Explosive for an instant OHK since they had a 15 meter blast radii and 2500hp damage per RE.
We called them Atomic Frisbees since you only had time to say kitten!!

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Volgair Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 200	Posted - 2013.01.11 05:48:00 - [1] - Quote I don't think I've seen this much high explosive carelessly chucked about since the E3 build with the remote explosive exploitation... The 25 or so matches ive done since the wipe and transfer have truly shown what a critical over site Grenades have become. Serving now as stat padding for scrub's. Most "gunfights" devolve into scenario more closely resembling a middle school snowball fight, only every one throw's the projectile like a flabby armed fat girl, not just your little sister. What i mean by this, is that now the grenade is the preferable weapon to the primary in most situations. The throwing mechanic feels clumsy. And your sister is fat. (presumably, but mostly for the sake of analogy) This leaves me with two questions and a third i won't bring up for now. 1.) Why go out of your way to program a cooking mechanic, only to replace its function by making grenades idiot proof and skill free? 2.) How is the current throwing mechanic less clumsy and convoluted then the mechanic from last build. this feels a bit like a step in the wrong direction. I admit to needing to vent, it felt as though at least 1/2 of my deaths today were grenade related and of them 1/5 were from fused locus... fuggin literal i win button. Expensive, but no less irritating because of that fact. But that's a story for a different day.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.11 07:21:00 - [2] - Quote Agreed !
Repe Susi Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 249	Posted - 2013.01.11 07:56:00 - [3] - Quote What? Grenades are perfectly applicable and acceptable in battle. So what you are saying is that while you are mowing down somebody you don't want them to get back at you by all means possible? So yesterday in match there were blob of redberries, was I not allowed to throw a nade at them because gungame>grenadescrub? 1v1, I'm losing, I'm not allowed to throw a nade because git gud u scrub u suk? Bullshit+¦.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:01:00 - [4] - Quote You would HATE me ..... Flux grenade at the beginning and then I SPAM NADES FROM A MASS DRVIER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:03:00 - [5] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: What? Grenades are perfectly applicable and acceptable in battle. So what you are saying is that while you are mowing down somebody you don't want them to get back at you by all means possible? So yesterday in match there were blob of redberries, was I not allowed to throw a nade at them because gungame>grenadescrub? 1v1, I'm losing, I'm not allowed to throw a nade because git gud u scrub u suk? Bullshit+¦. A 400HP damage MILITIA grenade OHK a 1100HP HEAVY suit?? GLITCHER. Get gud scrub.
Severus Smith ZionTCD Legacy Rising 163	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:04:00 - [6] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: What? Grenades are perfectly applicable and acceptable in battle. So what you are saying is that while you are mowing down somebody you don't want them to get back at you by all means possible? So yesterday in match there were blob of redberries, was I not allowed to throw a nade at them because gungame>grenadescrub? 1v1, I'm losing, I'm not allowed to throw a nade because git gud u scrub u suk? Bullshit+¦. Think he's talking about people just standing in Nanos chucking grenades like their a Mass Driver. It is a but annoying, but that's war. Maybe just add a 10 or so second delay between the Grenade restock on the Nano to minimize spam. I dunno,
Repe Susi Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 249	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:08:00 - [7] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: A 400HP damage MILITIA grenade OHK a 1100HP HEAVY suit?? Wouldn't know anything about that. If that's really the case, then it's bugged of course. Doesn't change the fact that OP is whining about grenades boo hoo.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:08:00 - [8] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: You would HATE me ..... Flux grenade at the beginning and then I SPAM NADES FROM A MASS DRVIER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ah no?? Flux grenades working as intended and not OHK. Mass driver several shots to kill and not OHK. Most times I get to kill the flux grenader/mass driver user. What I have a problem with are the rasberries exploiting a glitch that lets a 400hp damage militia grenade do over 1000HP for a OHK.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:17:00 - [9] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: A 400HP damage MILITIA grenade OHK a 1100HP HEAVY suit?? Wouldn't know anything about that. If that's really the case, then it's bugged of course. Doesn't change the fact that OP is whining about grenades boo hoo. I have no problem with any weapon when its balanced. The problem surfaces when theres an INbalance. Just like the OHK of remote explosives imagine if SMG bullets or HMG bullets were OHK due to a glitch. Then if folks post hey!! glitch and OP is it a whine or a legitimate concern over a broken game mechanic?? Imagine if it only took one to three HMG bullets to kill anything and everything what then??
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:23:00 - [10] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Enji Elric wrote: You would HATE me ..... Flux grenade at the beginning and then I SPAM NADES FROM A MASS DRVIER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ah no?? Flux grenades working as intended and not OHK. Mass driver several shots to kill and not OHK. Most times I get to kill the flux grenader/mass driver user. What I have a problem with are the rasberries exploiting a glitch that lets a 400hp damage militia grenade do over 1000HP for a OHK. If I hit you mid-chest without your shields OHK but yea your right not OHK most of the time ...................... unless your a scrubby scout ( no sp)

Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:25:00 - [11] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: A 400HP damage MILITIA grenade OHK a 1100HP HEAVY suit?? Wouldn't know anything about that. If that's really the case, then it's bugged of course. Doesn't change the fact that OP is whining about grenades boo hoo. I have no problem with any weapon when its balanced. The problem surfaces when theres an INbalance. Just like the OHK of remote explosives imagine if SMG bullets or HMG bullets were OHK due to a glitch. Then if folks post hey!! glitch and OP is it a whine or a legitimate concern over a broken game mechanic?? Imagine if it only took one to three HMG bullets to kill anything and everything what then?? when I kill with RE I use 3... and i can plant 5 so yea your not getting hit by ONE
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:26:00 - [12] - Quote Militia nades need about 20% more dmg and maybe a 1 second timer ? Also have found I can only throw 2 nades after my death so I ask you why did I bother training for them if I canGÇÖt get that last one out. Pointless having three and having to pay for it so just stick with militia lads.
Jack MaiWong Doomheim 2	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:30:00 - [13] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Militia nades need about 20% more dmg and maybe a 1 second timer ? Also have found I can only throw 2 nades after my death so I ask you why did I bother training for them if I canGÇÖt get that last one out. Pointless having three and having to pay for it so just stick with militia lads. YOu stick with militia LADS? WTF...... I've heard of being immersed but that seems a bit much actually were are these militia lads i would like to see them maybe they like candy, it's in my pocket, wonder if they will get it out for me.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:31:00 - [14] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Militia nades need about 20% more dmg and maybe a 1 second timer ? Also have found I can only throw 2 nades after my death so I ask you why did I bother training for them if I canGÇÖt get that last one out. Pointless having three and having to pay for it so just stick with militia lads. Right, right lets have militia nades do 3000hp damage in a 50 meter blast radious and lets have them be instant contact grenades with a homeing option to autoseek enemy clones, right!! Who needs guns??
Repe Susi Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 249	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:34:00 - [15] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Right, right lets have militia nades do 3000hp damage in a 50 meter blast radious and lets have them be instant contact grenades with a homeing option to autoseek enemy clones, right!! Who needs guns?? Now you are kidding, right?! That would be freaking OP. 2500hp/25m would be more like it. Not too OP.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:34:00 - [16] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: A 400HP damage MILITIA grenade OHK a 1100HP HEAVY suit?? Wouldn't know anything about that. If that's really the case, then it's bugged of course. Doesn't change the fact that OP is whining about grenades boo hoo. I have no problem with any weapon when its balanced. The problem surfaces when theres an INbalance. Just like the OHK of remote explosives imagine if SMG bullets or HMG bullets were OHK due to a glitch. Then if folks post hey!! glitch and OP is it a whine or a legitimate concern over a broken game mechanic?? Imagine if it only took one to three HMG bullets to kill anything and everything what then?? when I kill with RE I use 3... and i can plant 5 so yea your not getting hit by ONE E3 Build it was ONE Remote Explosive for an instant OHK since they had a 15 meter blast radii and 2500hp damage per RE. We called them Atomic Frisbees since you only had time to say kitten!!
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:37:00 - [17] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Enji Elric wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: A 400HP damage MILITIA grenade OHK a 1100HP HEAVY suit?? Wouldn't know anything about that. If that's really the case, then it's bugged of course. Doesn't change the fact that OP is whining about grenades boo hoo. I have no problem with any weapon when its balanced. The problem surfaces when theres an INbalance. Just like the OHK of remote explosives imagine if SMG bullets or HMG bullets were OHK due to a glitch. Then if folks post hey!! glitch and OP is it a whine or a legitimate concern over a broken game mechanic?? Imagine if it only took one to three HMG bullets to kill anything and everything what then?? when I kill with RE I use 3... and i can plant 5 so yea your not getting hit by ONE E3 Build it was ONE Remote Explosive for an instant OHK since they had a 15 meter blast radii and 2500hp damage per RE. We called them Atomic Frisbees since you only had time to say kitten!! In case you didn't realize, E3 build was a long ass time ago... maybe you should be more specific just saying
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.01.11 08:37:00 - [18] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Right, right lets have militia nades do 3000hp damage in a 50 meter blast radious and lets have them be instant contact grenades with a homeing option to autoseek enemy clones, right!! Who needs guns?? Now you are kidding, right?! That would be freaking OP. 2500hp/25m would be optimal. That was the E3 build where some folks went the entire build without shooting at all. All you needed was Atomic Frisbees.
Volgair Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 200	Posted - 2013.01.11 23:38:00 - [19] - Quote I want this to get another run at the front page, it was not received in quite the way i was expecting. I suppose this could be related to the fact very few have been playing since the E3 build so the RE reference was lost. but i don't think this is the case. here are my points -2 second timer is too short. Please return it to a 5 second timer when cooked and thrown, or a 4 second timer between ground impact and explosion. -The throwing mechanic feels sluggish and clumsy (yes i have used them, i wouldn't complain unless I've experienced both sides of the exchange my ratio for kill per grenade was about 2/5 including the ones that inexplicably deviate from a predictable flight path, and Grenades thrown in open areas used against fast character models used to sadly great success 1 on 1...) With grenades this powerful and scrub proof. Abuse should be expected.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1899	Posted - 2013.01.11 23:57:00 - [20] - Quote I hate the new grenades. Before you actually had to have some degree of skill to use them, now they're painfully simple. Also, the throw feels far more clunky, and is CONSTANTLY bouncing off of invisible edges or getting caught on things. Also, grenades STILL disappear if you go "down" while cooking them, which is so stupid. Plus, they are highly unresponsive if you're moving at all, I often have to completely stop moving after pulling the grenade trigger 3 or 4 times just to get them to throw.

Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 189	Posted - 2013.01.12 00:00:00 - [21] - Quote Right now people don't have much. AR's with small clips and low power. I feel most people are like me and got used to either a larger clip, more damage, faster reload, etc. In my head they should have dropped or im out of ammo when I'm not expecting it, so might as well throw grenades. Give it a week or so and the nades won't be a problem.
Sev Alcatraz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 185	Posted - 2013.01.12 01:35:00 - [22] - Quote it's the fact that the bloody throwing mechanic is broken, I threw a grenade at 2 red dots in the hopes of killing them instead the grenade went way to the right (about 6 feet) bounced off a wall and killed me. and if you hope to lob one at an enemy's feet good luck that sucker is gonna land at your feet and blow you into a million pieces.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2013.01.12 04:01:00 - [23] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: What? Grenades are perfectly applicable and acceptable in battle. So what you are saying is that while you are mowing down somebody you don't want them to get back at you by all means possible? So yesterday in match there were blob of redberries, was I not allowed to throw a nade at them because gungame>grenadescrub? 1v1, I'm losing, I'm not allowed to throw a nade because git gud u scrub u suk? Bullshit+¦. No, he's talking about how they've been changed to detonate after bouncing off the ground Halo style, instead of having a standard time-fuse like they used to, which I don't recall seeing any complaints about. I really hope the old version comes back, because the grenade spam right now is ********. People are using them more than their guns.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2013.01.12 04:04:00 - [24] - Quote I came here to play Dust. i did not come here to play a Halo clone.
supersayinb Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.01.12 04:08:00 - [25] - Quote "Skill nuggets" are a little much right now.
Thranx1231 CowTek 90	Posted - 2013.01.12 04:11:00 - [26] - Quote Volgair wrote: I don't think I've seen this much high explosive carelessly chucked about since the E3 build with the remote explosive exploitation... ---Snip--- Amarr Templars. Yeah, I know those guys. They come up and gun any Blue Berry that is using something they want, like a Turret. Seems nearly like a Corp requirement to grief anybody that is in the way of their entitled fun. Should I search and see if they are QQ for friendly fire too? I bet they would be able to fix Blues that over use Nades too. That entitlement flag is whipping in the breeze pretty good right about now. Good news, it is from Nade explosions.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2013.01.12 04:12:00 - [27] - Quote in reach, we called them "mini nukes." Do we need to call them the same thing in this game?


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