DUST Search - Dust FW System: We are Gamblers not Merc's

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Does the DUST 514 mercenary's corporation have to enroll in FW to accept these contracts?

The DUST merc's corporation does NOT have to be enrolled in FW to accept these contracts. DUST CEOs/Directors can accept a contract from any faction at any time (even if the EVE side of their corp is enrolled in FW on the other side or if the corp has bad standings with that faction! A true mercenary fights for the highest bidder) Link

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Though I haven't had the time (but will this weekend) to try out Dust on Tranquility, already the community is out problem-solving and brainstorming and coming alight with insight about the direction this grand experiment needs to head, and I'm proud. I'm well aware of the issue with no one showing up for a defense contract meaning the district doesnt switch hands, and as I discussed, the lack of money transfer** or ability for my EVE Alliance to control / pay for your contracts means that Hans has no ability to influence your game. And Hans really really wants to.*** Especially since you can influence his. Zion Shad nailed it GÇô functionally, to an EVE capsuleer, the sum of all Dust 514 merc battles (as a whole) could be replaced by a dice-rolling mechanic (but it still impacts our sovereignty), it really is that randomized in the absence of capsuleer intervention. I was quite clear with CCP at the summit that gambling is not a sustainable model to build the FW game around. We need to get our grubby paws in much deeper.


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Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.10 20:27:00 - [1] - Quote Quote: Does the DUST 514 mercenary's corporation have to enroll in FW to accept these contracts? The DUST merc's corporation does NOT have to be enrolled in FW to accept these contracts. DUST CEOs/Directors can accept a contract from any faction at any time (even if the EVE side of their corp is enrolled in FW on the other side or if the corp has bad standings with that faction! A true mercenary fights for the highest bidder) Link MECH ASSAULT 2: LONE WOLF for Xbox featured Conquest mode where each battle was part of an overall intergalactic war that transpired online. Conquest mode allowed players and clans to join one of five warring Houses: Kurita, Liao, Davion, Steiner, and Marik (Much like todayGÇÖs EVE Faction Warfare), but the game mechanic was highly flawed in that planets could only be captured if there was an attacking team and a defending team. Ultimately players found it easier to defend a planet by never accepting to defend it at all, leaving the attackers to become board and leave empty handed. So the side that lost was the one that chooses to defend. The current system in dust is a little more flawed in the fact that both this same contract system exhibits this same flaw and that you are not bound by one faction or swayed by Capsuleers. This causes random battles for districts with no side really gaining anything due to the fact we only use the contracts to war other corps over doing it for the FW Sov effect. We are just Gamblers and not true Merc's in this current System. I put up my cash and you put up yours. Winner takes all and the house get some. One of my main concern is if this same flaw stays in effect then what happens when EVE Capsuleers start to truly make these contract for Dust Merc's and the Dust Mercs never take them due to no consequence to the planet. Capsuleers will no longer give out contracts. This will kill our interaction and the purpose of this game From Han's Jagerblitzen's Alt Quote: Though I haven't had the time (but will this weekend) to try out Dust on Tranquility, already the community is out problem-solving and brainstorming and coming alight with insight about the direction this grand experiment needs to head, and I'm proud. I'm well aware of the issue with no one showing up for a defense contract meaning the district doesnt switch hands, and as I discussed, the lack of money transfer or ability for my EVE Alliance to control / pay for your contracts means that Hans has no ability to influence your game. And Hans really really wants to.* Especially since you can influence his. Zion Shad nailed it GÇô functionally, to an EVE capsuleer, the sum of all Dust 514 merc battles (as a whole) could be replaced by a dice-rolling mechanic (but it still impacts our sovereignty), it really is that randomized in the absence of capsuleer intervention. I was quite clear with CCP at the summit that gambling is not a sustainable model to build the FW game around. We need to get our grubby paws in much deeper. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=463742#post463742
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.10 22:03:00 - [2] - Quote Maximus Stryker wrote: So if you 'own' some districts/planets and never accept contracts to defend them...the default is that you will continue to own them because no one won them from you...? That needs to be fixed, i agree...why would anyone choose to risk losing their district if all they had to do was decline the challenges to defend and they keep their district? Lol where is the ISK flow? You put up ISK and another put up theirs. Winner takes all and you get no SP for it. You are not a Merc, your a gambler It's sad that you miss the point of my post.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.11 00:15:00 - [3] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Omnipotent Zitro wrote: Have fun losing when we face you guys every time, oh wait you are only going to attack so you don't do corp battle against us. Way to point out the flaw in their "flawless" plan. Thanks for the free isk earlier guys! Enjoy the 100k while we enjoy the billions from FW for taking these Districts. In fact Noc if you want to help us you will be payed well. Lets chat and see if you truly are mercs for hire
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.11 04:47:00 - [4] - Quote The FW Contracts are done by NPC but its where both team put the same amount of ISK for collateral (like 1 mill each) and then winner takes all. So its simply gambling. ZionTCD is being payed by Villore Accords in Gallente FW to take over districts on Dust. In the system of xxxx we are taking Districts help to help our employers take the system. The System started at -50% and we have worked it down to -36%. When we finish it will be +%50 for our employers and to take that system. The ISK is being payed to our EVE side and a % is being stored for Dust once transfers are allowed.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.11 06:13:00 - [5] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Could someone please clarify how ZionTCD is losing on purpose We are not. We are doing attack contracts only, so we are trying to win. But if we lose, then all we lose is like 100k ISK and never any district. So the defenders have more to lose. The 100 k means nothing though we are already payed for today. Will be payed more again
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.11 07:32:00 - [6] - Quote @Enji Elric: We can effect FW Sov already it was tested today. CCP has stated we do not enter a side but hose contract that u use to fight Corp Battle have an effect on EvE online
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.11 15:01:00 - [7] - Quote One of my main concern is if this same flaw stays in effect then what happens when EVE Capsuleers start to truly make these contract for Dust Merc's and the Dust Mercs never take them. This will kill our interaction and the purpose of this game
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.12 04:38:00 - [8] - Quote Mister0Zz wrote: He's not actually saying anything of consequence. Him not accepting defend doesn't mean it cant be taken, just that he won't be responsible. If nobody accepts a defend then the attackers attack an empty map. The district is still lost. It's just that the chances of this happening are astronomically low. So a fight almost always happens. If no one takes the contract against the attacker the contract just disappears and the attacker ISK is refunded. The district does not change status. You see today in FW Gallente has taken control of everything. Caldari is defeated and we are flipping the planets to make sure Gallente stays in power.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.13 18:08:00 - [9] - Quote Update to OP From Han's Jagerblitzen's Alt Quote: Though I haven't had the time (but will this weekend) to try out Dust on Tranquility, already the community is out problem-solving and brainstorming and coming alight with insight about the direction this grand experiment needs to head, and I'm proud. I'm well aware of the issue with no one showing up for a defense contract meaning the district doesnt switch hands, and as I discussed, the lack of money transfer or ability for my EVE Alliance to control / pay for your contracts means that Hans has no ability to influence your game. And Hans really really wants to.* Especially since you can influence his. Zion Shad nailed it GÇô functionally, to an EVE capsuleer, the sum of all Dust 514 merc battles (as a whole) could be replaced by a dice-rolling mechanic (but it still impacts our sovereignty), it really is that randomized in the absence of capsuleer intervention. I was quite clear with CCP at the summit that gambling is not a sustainable model to build the FW game around. We need to get our grubby paws in much deeper. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=463742#post463742