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Overlord Ulath
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:51:00 -
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At some point, I would like for Dust mercs to be able to land on and fight their way into EvE ships to destroy it and the pilots pod. Wanna know why? Here's some text from the EvE forums:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Yuri Wayfare wrote:Alpheias wrote:
I am still waiting for the explanation why I can't just indiscriminately bombard the planets when I am forced to rely on some ******* beacon.
Somewhere in FW space: EVE player: "Hey DUSTie, want some orbital support? Just 50 mil." DUST player: "No thanks bro." EVE player: "Ok. Well then pay me 50 mil anyway or I bomb you." DUST player: "..." Actually sounds kind of fun That would be great if there were actually a way to transfer isk between the two games. Still, looking forward to this new chapter in the beta! I like this idea, it's the nature of eve that the weak yield to the strong. Lets have no protection for the dust bunnies. They should be treated the same as any other item in eve. They are expendable and destructible. Welcome to New Eden Dust Bunnies...
Now then, since the PC and EvE crowd seems so gung-ho on dropping us, I say that we should have an EvE ship hunting mode where we take a squad or two and get to attempt to hunt down EvE pilots who become too big of a nuisance.
Not sure how it we would get to the hull to fight our way in yet, but EvE pilots could be given slots on their ships for automated defense systems (and perhaps some controllable by the EvE player) that would attempt to protect their ships, and we could fight our way in with like a time limit and limited clones.
The ground based weapons they plan to give us that take out only the ships at the planet we are fighting on are NOT ENOUGH! If I am getting trolled by an EvE players, I deserve to be able to troll back goddammit! |
Ludwig Van Beatdropin
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
195
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:01:00 -
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Overlord Ulath wrote:At some point, I would like for Dust mercs to be able to land on and fight their way into EvE ships to destroy it and the pilots pod. Wanna know why? Here's some text from the EvE forums: Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Yuri Wayfare wrote:Alpheias wrote:
I am still waiting for the explanation why I can't just indiscriminately bombard the planets when I am forced to rely on some ******* beacon.
Somewhere in FW space: EVE player: "Hey DUSTie, want some orbital support? Just 50 mil." DUST player: "No thanks bro." EVE player: "Ok. Well then pay me 50 mil anyway or I bomb you." DUST player: "..." Actually sounds kind of fun That would be great if there were actually a way to transfer isk between the two games. Still, looking forward to this new chapter in the beta! I like this idea, it's the nature of eve that the weak yield to the strong. Lets have no protection for the dust bunnies. They should be treated the same as any other item in eve. They are expendable and destructible. Welcome to New Eden Dust Bunnies... Now then, since the PC and EvE crowd seems so gung-ho on dropping us, I say that we should have an EvE ship hunting mode where we take a squad or two and get to attempt to hunt down EvE pilots who become too big of a nuisance. Not sure how it we would get to the hull to fight our way in yet, but EvE pilots could be given slots on their ships for automated defense systems (and perhaps some controllable by the EvE player) that would attempt to protect their ships, and we could fight our way in with like a time limit and limited clones. The ground based weapons they plan to give us that take out only the ships at the planet we are fighting on are NOT ENOUGH! If I am getting trolled by an EvE players, I deserve to be able to troll back goddammit!
Lol, what a bunch of fuc king as s to my holes.
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pew pew youredead
What The French
98
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:08:00 -
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Overlord Ulath wrote:At some point, I would like for Dust mercs to be able to land on and fight their way into EvE ships to destroy it and the pilots pod. Wanna know why? Here's some text from the EvE forums: Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Yuri Wayfare wrote:Alpheias wrote:
I am still waiting for the explanation why I can't just indiscriminately bombard the planets when I am forced to rely on some ******* beacon.
Somewhere in FW space: EVE player: "Hey DUSTie, want some orbital support? Just 50 mil." DUST player: "No thanks bro." EVE player: "Ok. Well then pay me 50 mil anyway or I bomb you." DUST player: "..." Actually sounds kind of fun That would be great if there were actually a way to transfer isk between the two games. Still, looking forward to this new chapter in the beta! I like this idea, it's the nature of eve that the weak yield to the strong. Lets have no protection for the dust bunnies. They should be treated the same as any other item in eve. They are expendable and destructible. Welcome to New Eden Dust Bunnies... Now then, since the PC and EvE crowd seems so gung-ho on dropping us, I say that we should have an EvE ship hunting mode where we take a squad or two and get to attempt to hunt down EvE pilots who become too big of a nuisance. Not sure how it we would get to the hull to fight our way in yet, but EvE pilots could be given slots on their ships for automated defense systems (and perhaps some controllable by the EvE player) that would attempt to protect their ships, and we could fight our way in with like a time limit and limited clones. The ground based weapons they plan to give us that take out only the ships at the planet we are fighting on are NOT ENOUGH! If I am getting trolled by an EvE players, I deserve to be able to troll back goddammit!
Here's the deal
Me "oooooh a boarding party! Lets have some fun...." self destruct sequence initiated 2 minutes until detonation
You "aaaahferfecksaaaek im still loading" |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:10:00 -
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Soon as I hear self destruct I would smile - even if he kills me that ship is worth a hella lot more then me lol |
Overlord Ulath
Doomheim
85
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:12:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:
Here's the deal
Me "oooooh a boarding party! Lets have some fun...." self destruct sequence initiated 2 minutes until detonation
You "aaaahferfecksaaaek im still loading"
Easy fix. Delay notifications of a boarding party until the first player lands, Once players reach a certain point of the ship, they can hack it and end the self destruct sequence and loot it for extra rewards. Either way, you are out a ship if you SD, and we get paid for it.  |
xAkantor
Carbon 7
5
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:14:00 -
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so far, i like this idea, maybe create a special drop ship that can fly in orbit, and launch "Drones" that contain dust mercs that latch onto ships, we are going to be bombarded by titans and battlecruisers, why not let us a chance to blow them up?
Or atleast give us a choice of either Orbital Bombardment or Atmospheric nuke to destroy any ships that help the enemy team. |
XxVic1ouSxX
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:52:00 -
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I had the same idea xD and they could have like defense drones or another merc group fighting to repel the intruders
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Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:10:00 -
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It'll also be cool if allied EvE players can guard the planet from above so douche players can't ruin the battle. |
VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
135
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:37:00 -
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The trolling i can see being a problem at first, because of the overwhelming number of snob pc gamers play eve, however, i feel there will be alot of shots we can pull off with orbital cannons that will kitten them off, and once they realize how important mercs can be (ccp is not going to make a whole nother game without it being important) they will have to ADAPT OR DIE (always wanted to say that)
On the boarding parties? HELL YES! also a good thing for small corps to do if they cant always field a full battle squad and sitll help out, by boarding ships during combat |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:45:00 -
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Boarding parties wont happen for a long long time I'm sure, there are far two many ships that CCP would have to create maps for. As far as endlessly bombarding planets, that wont happen until we can endlessly fire back at EVE players, so I wouldn't worry to much about any of this. |
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kellyn whiteheart
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
54
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:49:00 -
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they cant bomb our planets and district without the coordinates from us so there is no trolling. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:55:00 -
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Girls girls girls.
It's really simple. If EvE players start REALLY acting up, then it's as easy as having your whole corp get a trial on EvE. Then you all learn anchoring lvl 1. I won't explain the rest to avoid causing trouble, but 10000 cargo containers directly under a station seems to mess with things in that system. Like unbearable lag.
So, if EvE wants to mess with us, we can mess with them too. Because an EvE trial is free :) |
kellyn whiteheart
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
54
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:12:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Girls girls girls.
It's really simple. If EvE players start REALLY acting up, then it's as easy as having your whole corp get a trial on EvE. Then you all learn anchoring lvl 1. I won't explain the rest to avoid causing trouble, but 10000 cargo containers directly under a station seems to mess with things in that system. Like unbearable lag.
So, if EvE wants to mess with us, we can mess with them too. Because an EvE trial is free :)
i could be wrong but i thought you had to have a full account to learn the anchoring skill... if im right sorry to burst ur bubble |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:15:00 -
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You are probs right, but I'm such a nOOb @ EvE I wouldn't know. Don't get me wrong, it's not something I like the idea of (well, not much), but someone else mentioned it, and it seems like viable industrial action :P I'm sure people will work out many ways to mess with both Dust and EvE. |
kellyn whiteheart
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
54
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:27:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:You are probs right, but I'm such a nOOb @ EvE I wouldn't know. Don't get me wrong, it's not something I like the idea of (well, not much), but someone else mentioned it, and it seems like viable industrial action :P I'm sure people will work out many ways to mess with both Dust and EvE.
im sure they will. and i expect it. thats the nature of eve and now dust |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
968
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:31:00 -
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I strongly suspect that CCP is well aware of the issues and will ensure that we can't troll each other for a long time. It's in their interest to make all this effort and expense pay off and they control every aspect of the integration.
It's just like bringing home a new baby and having to deal with the jealously of the existing child. The kid may feel neglected and resent any attention given to the new baby, but with time and effort it will welcome its new sibling and enjoy playing with it. |
lanyaa ie
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:32:00 -
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I don't see thiscoming any time soon, it's fun to think of but it's just something that's hard to accomplish
CCP would have to create new enviorments etc. etc. |
Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2013.01.10 23:08:00 -
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Skihids wrote:I strongly suspect that CCP is well aware of the issues and will ensure that we can't troll each other for a long time. It's in their interest to make all this effort and expense pay off and they control every aspect of the integration.
It's just like bringing home a new baby and having to deal with the jealously of the existing child. The kid may feel neglected and resent any attention given to the new baby, but with time and effort it will welcome its new sibling and enjoy playing with it.
You also have to remember that here in the internet based world, the kids are 300001% more spoiled than any kid to every exist IRL. We have to accept that a huge chunk of EvE will never be with us or for us, always and forever denouncing CCP for "wasting money on a console FPS instead of making one for PC or dumping that money into improving EvE". That means constant battling between Dust and a large portion of EvE, which means there will be a LOT of people in EvE griefing Dust players at every possible opportunity. We need to make sure we have every means to fight back that we possibly can.
We're not just up against the EvE crowd, but the PC elitists as well. And as you all know, no gamer feels more entitled than the PC Elitist. |
Governor Odius
Doomheim
177
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Posted - 2013.01.10 23:31:00 -
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I wish people would think this through before suggesting it for the thousandth time. Being able to destroy EVE players ships would be monstrously boring for the DUST players and monstrously unfair to the EVE players. It's especially comical because you're proposing it as a counter to a capability the capsuleers don't even have. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.10 23:47:00 -
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Overlord Ulath wrote:At some point, I would like for Dust mercs to be able to land on and fight their way into EvE ships to destroy it and the pilots pod. Wanna know why? Here's some text from the EvE forums: Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Yuri Wayfare wrote:Alpheias wrote:
I am still waiting for the explanation why I can't just indiscriminately bombard the planets when I am forced to rely on some ******* beacon.
Somewhere in FW space: EVE player: "Hey DUSTie, want some orbital support? Just 50 mil." DUST player: "No thanks bro." EVE player: "Ok. Well then pay me 50 mil anyway or I bomb you." DUST player: "..." Actually sounds kind of fun That would be great if there were actually a way to transfer isk between the two games. Still, looking forward to this new chapter in the beta! I like this idea, it's the nature of eve that the weak yield to the strong. Lets have no protection for the dust bunnies. They should be treated the same as any other item in eve. They are expendable and destructible. Welcome to New Eden Dust Bunnies... Now then, since the PC and EvE crowd seems so gung-ho on dropping us, I say that we should have an EvE ship hunting mode where we take a squad or two and get to attempt to hunt down EvE pilots who become too big of a nuisance. Not sure how it we would get to the hull to fight our way in yet, but EvE pilots could be given slots on their ships for automated defense systems (and perhaps some controllable by the EvE player) that would attempt to protect their ships, and we could fight our way in with like a time limit and limited clones. The ground based weapons they plan to give us that take out only the ships at the planet we are fighting on are NOT ENOUGH! If I am getting trolled by an EvE players, I deserve to be able to troll back goddammit!
Only if I can hack your Black Ops HAV from orbit and take remote control while you say... "what the?????"
:P |
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DrunkardBastards
Inebriated Liberation Front
23
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Posted - 2013.01.10 23:52:00 -
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well, say you board a ship, whats stopping the ship from docking/logging off and what happens to the eve player can they just go about there business while a battle rages on internally? does the ship get locked down until the battle is finished?
edit: i guess it might be cool if an eve ship could launch of kind of weapon that would lock on to a ship and then put a game up on dust that'll start a game to take over the ship.. lol |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.10 23:55:00 -
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DrunkardBastards wrote:well, say you board a ship, whats stopping the ship from docking/logging off and what happens to the eve player can they just go about there business while a battle rages on internally? does the ship get locked down until the battle is finished?
This is why I don't think this will ever happen; now boarding space stations, on the other hand, seems much more feasible. |
DrunkardBastards
Inebriated Liberation Front
23
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Posted - 2013.01.10 23:57:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:DrunkardBastards wrote:well, say you board a ship, whats stopping the ship from docking/logging off and what happens to the eve player can they just go about there business while a battle rages on internally? does the ship get locked down until the battle is finished? This is why I don't think this will ever happen; now boarding space stations, on the other hand, seems much more feasible.
Yeah, out in nullsec, instead of just bashing a station into submission, you could have it so when you did finally beat it to submission, well now you have to infiltrate and conquer that motherkitten.. all dusty like. |
Young Gun Qc
Rebelles A Quebec
21
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Posted - 2013.01.11 00:03:00 -
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Humm just tinking ... we are not supposed to have a hudge canon on the land to blow up the spaceship ...... |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.11 00:09:00 -
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lol dust guy dies every match eve guy dies every night.. u do the math, but yea dust players cryharder imo and over way less isk |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
428
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Posted - 2013.01.11 00:19:00 -
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@ Overlord Utah
We will be getting surface to space cannons (STSC) that will eliminate those pesky spacemen. Also, I was in Red Rock Lounge, and the bombardments are occurring in lowsec space, and a pirate went off on a "patrol" for the OBS. So hook up with some pirates, win a match (in future) that has a STSC and boom, the conversation ends like this.
Dust player: So, 50 mill to not get bombarded? How about you pay me 150 mill so I don't send pirates and goonswarm on your ass or blow your precious ship to pieces
EVE player: *left space*
Enemy Dust player: Where's my OBS!? |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc
24
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Posted - 2013.01.11 00:26:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:
Soon as I hear self destruct I would smile - even if he kills me that ship is worth a hella lot more then me lol
Ship: Millions of ISK
Me: 60,000ISK
My Match Earnings: 100,000+ISK |
Chibi Andy
Celtic Anarchy
38
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Posted - 2013.01.11 08:52:00 -
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or we could board the ships, hijack it and then ransom it back to the player for lets say 50% more than the original price of their ship, if they dont pay up we can either 1: sell the ship for isk to be divided amongst the squad/team, 2: make the ship go BOOM 3: use it for ourselves, those who have EVE etc etc |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2013.01.11 10:28:00 -
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kellyn whiteheart wrote:they cant bomb our planets and district without the coordinates from us so there is no trolling.
this.
/thread |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:34:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:kellyn whiteheart wrote:they cant bomb our planets and district without the coordinates from us so there is no trolling. this. /thread
Yet.
thread/ |
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Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:39:00 -
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They will eventually get the ability to orbital strike one of two targets.
1: The target designated by you.
2: You, the guy transmitting codes in the blind hope they dont think you look better on fire than the raspberries. |
Cat Poo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
61
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:46:00 -
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I don't think that this thread understands the jimmies it wants to rustle. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:52:00 -
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I wouldn't be worried in the least, of those 4 players 2 have no combat history at all (though they could be alts for forum posting) 1 has managed to kill 200 ships in 2 years and the other 900 over 4 years, with pretty terrible losses for a pvper.
I suppose my point is the people mouthing off the most are probably highsec carebears who wouldn't dare step into low sec to try and bomb you, and if they did a true pvper will be waiting for an easy kill at the planet, for every pilot who wants to orbital strike us, there will be 10 that want to kill his ship, before he even gets into orbit. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:05:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I wouldn't be worried in the least, of those 4 players 2 have no combat history at all (though they could be alts for forum posting) 1 has managed to kill 200 ships in 2 years and the other 900 over 4 years, with pretty terrible losses for a pvper.
I suppose my point is the people mouthing off the most are probably highsec carebears who wouldn't dare step into low sec to try and bomb you, and if they did a true pvper will be waiting for an easy kill at the planet, for every pilot who wants to orbital strike us, there will be 10 that want to kill his ship, before he even gets into orbit.
While that IS somewhat comforting.... I still wanna grief EvE players now. Elitism makes me VERY interested in fighting back. Can we at least have EvE players in our corp who can fire CRU's onto enemy ships and let us help them take it out? PLEASE?? |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:13:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I wouldn't be worried in the least, of those 4 players 2 have no combat history at all (though they could be alts for forum posting) 1 has managed to kill 200 ships in 2 years and the other 900 over 4 years, with pretty terrible losses for a pvper.
I suppose my point is the people mouthing off the most are probably highsec carebears who wouldn't dare step into low sec to try and bomb you, and if they did a true pvper will be waiting for an easy kill at the planet, for every pilot who wants to orbital strike us, there will be 10 that want to kill his ship, before he even gets into orbit.
Pretty much this.
The loudest objections tend to come from Goons/TEST on the forums, but I've pretty much figured out/confirmed they intend to use DUST players to troll the **** out of New Eden. Plus theyre all hidden in the dust beta being trolls and calling us pubbies. Nevermind they never, ever pass up a chance to get an edge on people.
Subdreddit Gold is a TEST Alliance Please Ignore corp.
The second loudest come from the hisec bear population that considers DUST a complete waste of time. mostly because we dont lend any benefit to hisec safe play. So theyre pissy CCP doesnt give tgem more ISK faucets and make them more invulnerable to ganks.
Most of the rest of EVE is in wait-and-see mode, hoping DUST brings in new blood and more angles to play. Thet are at least reserving judgement.
Also, 99% of posts on the eve forums are troll posts intended to incite rage, so they can by and large be ignored.
We are positively genteel by comparison. |
Vincienzo Lamalfa
D3LTA FORC3
Orion Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:25:00 -
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You guys are nuts and apparently haven't played eve... trolling is all everyone does in this game...its not just dust guys getting it. Ive played for 5 years now and flew with the kings of the troll goonswarm. Get some thicker skin dudes or you wont make it on tq |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:42:00 -
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My skin is plenty thick. That doesn't mean that I take getting griefed from the sky lying down. If something can kill me and fly away, I should have some means of chasing that sonnofabitch down and killing the **** out of it.
I don't take well to the whole "Accept your fate as a pawn" BS. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:50:00 -
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Most of the objections that are serious are from hisec sissies who lose their damned marbles when you pop their cheapass cruiser with antiship guns.
Most of my point is that the people who whine about us and MEAN IT are irrelevant to our play.
The CFC is my example of the group that talks **** while planning to integrate dustcorps. Most nullseccers and FW fit here.
The rest are wait and see.
Plus im a troll, and I play eve. The EVE forums are the LAST place you want to look for constructive conversation. GENERAL DISCUSSION, for example could be renamed the troll herd and be truth.
Its EVE? We are assholes and trolls. Accept this and join the dark side. we pay phenomenal benefits packages. |
Eflin Trollunge
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:11:00 -
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hehe if both sides become possible I picture good things like true eve piracy.
stealth ships with a troop launcher....picture a missile that embeds itself into a ship and acts as a temporary and destroyable spawn point inside the ship.
that's how I'd handle boarding parties
I would so restart eve and be a troop carrier hah.
special gun with very limited ammunition depending on the size of the ship it is attached to or something. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:24:00 -
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Overlord Ulath wrote:pew pew youredead wrote:
Here's the deal
Me "oooooh a boarding party! Lets have some fun...." self destruct sequence initiated 2 minutes until detonation
You "aaaahferfecksaaaek im still loading"
Easy fix. Delay notifications of a boarding party until the first player lands, Once players reach a certain point of the ship, they can hack it and end the self destruct sequence and loot it for extra rewards. Either way, you are out a ship if you SD, and we get paid for it.
Seld-destruct is so yestermillennia.
In losec, just aggress at the gate. Shoot at a gate gun.
In hisec, aggress ANYTHING and your ship pops in 10-20s as Concord does the work for you.
Everyone seems to assume that because Eve's ship scale is great so ships would be immensely precious to owners and taking them down would be a rare event which would take hours.
That is not the case.
TLDR;
Still no to ship boarding, yes to station ownership changing. |
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Jackof All-Trades
Bojo's School of the Trades
78
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Posted - 2013.01.11 15:35:00 -
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Skihids wrote:I strongly suspect that CCP is well aware of the issues and will ensure that we can't troll each other for a long time. It's in their interest to make all this effort and expense pay off and they control every aspect of the integration.
It's just like bringing home a new baby and having to deal with the jealously of the existing child. The kid may feel neglected and resent any attention given to the new baby, but with time and effort it will welcome its new sibling and enjoy playing with it.
Your analogy is amazing, man.
And in relevancy to the thread, +1 for boarding stations |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
163
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:17:00 -
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Overlord Zero wrote:[And as you all know, no gamer feels more entitled than the PC Elitist.
Well except maybe the X-Box fanboy/girl. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:40:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Overlord Zero wrote:[And as you all know, no gamer feels more entitled than the PC Elitist. Well except maybe the X-Box fanboy/girl.
Oooooh... that's a close one. Perhaps because the whole Xbox=Microsoft=PC. Could be that a lot of the entitlement was grandfathered down to the Xbox players from the PC. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
163
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:42:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Overlord Zero wrote:[And as you all know, no gamer feels more entitled than the PC Elitist. Well except maybe the X-Box fanboy/girl. Oooooh... that's a close one. Perhaps because the whole Xbox=Microsoft=PC. Could be that a lot of the entitlement was grandfathered down to the Xbox players from the PC.
That is a possibility. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:22:00 -
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Overlord Ulath wrote:At some point, I would like for Dust mercs to be able to land on and fight their way into EvE ships to destroy it and the pilots pod. Wanna know why? Here's some text from the EvE forums: Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Yuri Wayfare wrote:Alpheias wrote:
I am still waiting for the explanation why I can't just indiscriminately bombard the planets when I am forced to rely on some ******* beacon.
Somewhere in FW space: EVE player: "Hey DUSTie, want some orbital support? Just 50 mil." DUST player: "No thanks bro." EVE player: "Ok. Well then pay me 50 mil anyway or I bomb you." DUST player: "..." Actually sounds kind of fun That would be great if there were actually a way to transfer isk between the two games. Still, looking forward to this new chapter in the beta! I like this idea, it's the nature of eve that the weak yield to the strong. Lets have no protection for the dust bunnies. They should be treated the same as any other item in eve. They are expendable and destructible. Welcome to New Eden Dust Bunnies... Now then, since the PC and EvE crowd seems so gung-ho on dropping us, I say that we should have an EvE ship hunting mode where we take a squad or two and get to attempt to hunt down EvE pilots who become too big of a nuisance. Not sure how it we would get to the hull to fight our way in yet, but EvE pilots could be given slots on their ships for automated defense systems (and perhaps some controllable by the EvE player) that would attempt to protect their ships, and we could fight our way in with like a time limit and limited clones. The ground based weapons they plan to give us that take out only the ships at the planet we are fighting on are NOT ENOUGH! If I am getting trolled by an EvE players, I deserve to be able to troll back goddammit!
You're an idiot if you think a single post in a single thread reflects a whole community.
How many EVE players do you think are here? |
ChargersGirlLuvsDP
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:35:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:lol dust guy dies every match eve guy dies every night.. u do the math, but yea dust players cryharder imo and over way less isk
They also chest beat over much less in winnings. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.01.12 04:03:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:You're an idiot if you think a single post in a single thread reflects a whole community.
How many EVE players do you think are here?
Oh! Ouch! I'm hurt dawg!
However, agreed upon posts that are in a thread in which such sentiments are not renounced in any meaningful way by ANYONE (and btw, thread is over 30 pages long, has plenty of DEV posts, and spans the spectrum on subjects, which is plenty of time for SOMEONE to step in and give voice to a segment of EvE who are against such behavior) means there is a meaningfully large portion of the EvE community who agrees. This was a small segment of a VERY large thread which centered around this theme that lasted throughout the thread(though it has nothing to do with the OP in the thread, the OP was about the migration).
Good job, you got me! |
Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
185
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Posted - 2013.01.12 04:45:00 -
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Overlord Ulath wrote:At some point, I would like for Dust mercs to be able to land on and fight their way into EvE ships to destroy it and the pilots pod. Wanna know why? Here's some text from the EvE forums: Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Yuri Wayfare wrote:[quote=Alpheias]
I am still waiting for the explanation why I can't just indiscriminately bombard the planets when I am forced to rely on some ******* beacon. Somewhere in FW space: EVE player: "Hey DUSTie, want some orbital support? Just 50 mil." DUST player: "No thanks bro." EVE player: "Ok. Well then pay me 50 mil anyway or I bomb you." DUST player: "..." Actually sounds kind of fun That would be great if there were actually a way to transfer isk between the two games. Still, looking forward to this new chapter in the beta! I like this idea, it's the nature of eve that the weak yield to the strong. Lets have no protection for the dust bunnies. They should be treated the same as any other item in eve. They are expendable and destructible. Welcome to New Eden Dust Bunnies...
eat hell fire cannon *****, I will fiddle as your ship burns away in orbit and you gain a massive hole in your wallet
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Tanis Cainne
Coriault Combat Solutions Inc.
2
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:25:00 -
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VicBoss wrote:The trolling i can see being a problem at first, because of the overwhelming number of snob pc gamers play eve, however, i feel there will be alot of shots we can pull off with orbital cannons that will kitten them off, and once they realize how important mercs can be (ccp is not going to make a whole nother game without it being important) they will have to ADAPT OR DIE (always wanted to say that)
On the boarding parties? HELL YES! also a good thing for small corps to do if they cant always field a full battle squad and sitll help out, by boarding ships during combat
By all means, let the dust bunnies board my Machariel. It's nearly a kilometer and a half long and has a crew compliment of 4000-9500. I'm also in the habit of leaving Marines/Militants in my cargo hold. If it's implemented, and modeled per lore, well, good luck.
In all seriousness though, I would welcome the idea of using ground pounders for the chance at taking over a reinforced tower. Fleet puts it into reinforced, then allow special operations transports to breech it and have a chance to blow the strontium storage and drop the reinforced timer. |
Galrick M'kron
NECROMONGER'S
10
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Posted - 2013.03.02 13:03:00 -
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I like the idea, but I think boarding should be restricted to larger ships. Capping or destroying them would be fun. I'm divided over whether Dust players should have access to small ships, or if other ships should be able to fire boarding CRUs onto ships. Maybe both. We should definitely be able to board space stations though. +1 |
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