I wouldnt worry about it. After 3 games they wont get any SP

But, it sounds like a real boring time if you ask me, unless you're a sniper... which I'm not.

So if a player can earn SP/ISK per time in the game and never have to leave the red line, why would they?

Just bringing this up because if it is time related, people in a skirmish that are getting red lined or bad at game and just dont want to mess with it (pick one). They can just sit in the back with no danger and hit the daily cap everyday... CCP did you think about this kind of AFK farming?

lol against all odds sir... you get a like!

This is going to be a huge problem.

All the redlining is bad enough as it is now half the team will be doing nothing.

So, targets which don't move and don't shoot back are a bad thing? I, for one, like them already ;)
Although SP for being in game should be awarded only when the player is outside the redzone in my opinion...

Redlining and Spawn camping are definitely a huge problem in this game and I wish there were ways around it....with that said I'm not so sure that CCP can do a thing about it.

Maybe that's the case, but CCP is making it worse by giving incentives for people to AFK. That's hardly helping redlining and camping at spawn.

But targets that don't move and don't shoot back ARE a bad thing. Since they are in the red line, all the have to do is sit behind a building and you won't have a snipe shot at them at all, very boring.

Just tested it.
Onegame of skirmish from the start to end sat in the warbarge = 9000 sp and squad mates shouting at you a fair bit.

Just tested it.
Onegame of skirmish from the start to end sat in the warbarge = 9000 sp and squad mates shouting at you a fair bit.

Just tested it.
Onegame of skirmish from the start to end sat in the warbarge = 9000 sp and squad mates shouting at you a fair bit.

wait for friendly fire to be turned on and you'll get TK'd for doing nothing.
with luck, friendly fire will be implemented along with voting. that way you can vote to kick someone who team kills too much and vote to kick someone who is just sitting there and not helping.

Personally I think when someone is pushed so far back that they're being redlined then the game just sucks all together and is major boring $hit.

Forgot their adding friendly fire, do you happen to know will friendly fire be applyied across the board or only in low to null sec space? But yup friendly fire would solve a lot of these issues

there is no friendly fire yet

How about if your character does not move for move then 3 minutes you get kicked with out SP or ISK.
If you spend more than X amount of time in the red line you forfeit your position on the team i.e. kick no SP no ISK.
If more then X % of your team are camping behind the red line, your entire team forfeit the match.

I can't see this being a big problem in corp v corp matches, Any corp that's worth it's salt in battle would not do this, well at least I hope they wouldn't, doesn't seem like a sound tactic to me anyhow.

this is very simple random afk timer. after 2-3 minutes of no actions on the character. it gets kicked and loses all SP for that match. or black list so players can report people afking and they get the smack down by concord or a fine

So if a player can earn SP/ISK per time in the game and never have to leave the red line, why would they?

Just bringing this up because if it is time related, people in a skirmish that are getting red lined or bad at game and just dont want to mess with it (pick one). They can just sit in the back with no danger and hit the daily cap everyday... CCP did you think about this kind of AFK farming?

Passive SP for standing around in a match is suddenly a problem because of the daily SP cap, and made obvious by the imbalance between the passive (time) and active (WP) points awarded.

Don't have time to play due to other obligations? Just boot up the game and queue up a Skirmish match where you can stand around in your spawn. Check back on your merc every so often to put him in another match as you study or take care of your daily chores. That way you keep up with your cap and you get your real world obligations taken care of.

Need to move every so often? Get your kid to shuttle your merc back and forth, or build a modded controller to randomly twitch. I'm pretty sure someone could implement that with M/K pretty easily. It would generate an interesting arms race between CCP and SP farmers that would waste everyone's time.

Or...

CCP could simply implement a rolling SP cap, dump the time SP, multiply the WP/SP conversion, and double the result for the winning team. Imagine what would happen if you actually incentivized the behavior you wanted?

How about if your character does not move for move then 3 minutes you get kicked with out SP or ISK.
If you spend more than X amount of time in the red line you forfeit your position on the team i.e. kick no SP no ISK.
If more then X % of your team are camping behind the red line, your entire team forfeit the match.

I can't see this being a big problem in corp v corp matches, Any corp that's worth it's salt in battle would not do this, well at least I hope they wouldn't, doesn't seem like a sound tactic to me anyhow.

The daily SP cap is so low that all these doesn't really matter. It just isn't possible to AFK grind SP because you'll reach SP cap so fast that the process can't be called grind.

for **** s sake theres been passive sp for a couple builds now and its not been a problem. soSTFU

There has been passive SP since the beta went live brother. But this is a different kind of passive. You get SP per second for being in a game whether you do anything or not, that is the difference.