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xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.01.08 07:31:00 -
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Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
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BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.01.08 07:33:00 -
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the answer wont come till full game release. People will still have to learn the game. OR the answer was here this whole time. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.08 07:34:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
I don't see any corps falling a part just because of launch. We'll probably see a few mergers to compete with the flux of new corps and new talent coming to the game - not much else.
But that answer to the imperfects is bound to come - may be in a form we don't expect too. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.08 07:41:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
I don't see any corps falling a part just because of launch. We'll probably see a few mergers to compete with the flux of new corps and new talent coming to the game - not much else. But that answer to the imperfects is bound to come - may be in a form we don't expect too.
quick question... are all of ~^~ in Pink fluffy bunnies now? |
Wicked Glory
Doomheim
171
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Posted - 2013.01.08 07:51:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
I don't see any corps falling a part just because of launch. We'll probably see a few mergers to compete with the flux of new corps and new talent coming to the game - not much else. But that answer to the imperfects is bound to come - may be in a form we don't expect too. quick question... are all of ~^~ in Pink fluffy bunnies now? The members of the Flock that weren't non-factors aren't playing Dust. |
Enkidu Camuel
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:01:00 -
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We're pretty far from seeing a major change of powers in DUST, it wont happen till full release (and it will still take time to come) |
epicsting
Doomheim
60
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:06:00 -
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I don't want to be that guy but when skill resets imperfic will be easy prey it the huge skill lead they have, the was a lot of corp that skill boosted I'm not saying witch won but, when we all reset we all will be weak. Player skill will be put to the test then we will see who the best are. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:10:00 -
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Warriors inbound
Tbh I love those guys new eden would be missing somthign without em. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:14:00 -
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Wicked Glory wrote:Enji Elric wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
I don't see any corps falling a part just because of launch. We'll probably see a few mergers to compete with the flux of new corps and new talent coming to the game - not much else. But that answer to the imperfects is bound to come - may be in a form we don't expect too. quick question... are all of ~^~ in Pink fluffy bunnies now? The members of the Flock that weren't non-factors aren't playing Dust. oh well I guess I can just be disappointed in not hearing about Grimace's Lag-switch
but it's good to know jump*** Cough I mean Protoman is playing dust ^_^ |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:22:00 -
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thats quite dumb what you sayd. Changes in powers? lol when there are new good players they get into allready existing corperations. |
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:25:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:thats quite dumb what you sayd. Changes in powers? lol when there are new good players they get into allready existing corperations. Though I agree there won't be a huge power switch the flux of players will make such an impact that this statement has merit. No need to get all trolly in every thread you see an imperfect in. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:32:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:The dark cloud wrote:thats quite dumb what you sayd. Changes in powers? lol when there are new good players they get into allready existing corperations. Though I agree there won't be a huge power switch the flux of players will make such an impact that this statement has merit. No need to get all trolly in every thread you see an imperfect in.
Woah woah. Are you being rationale and level headed?
Let's get that kind of smut off the forums. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:37:00 -
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Funny I haven't seen any SVER on here yet.... |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:40:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:The dark cloud wrote:thats quite dumb what you sayd. Changes in powers? lol when there are new good players they get into allready existing corperations. Though I agree there won't be a huge power switch the flux of players will make such an impact that this statement has merit. No need to get all trolly in every thread you see an imperfect in. Woah woah. Are you being rationale and level headed? Let's get that kind of smut off the forums. :O You're right. Ignore I said anything - Continue Si vs Imp!~ |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.01.08 09:00:00 -
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Fresh recruits is more likely. New players are probably going to flood into existing corps.
There is going to be a bit of minor corps created, but will be a while before we start to see different corp names at the top unless players from corps we have now branch off and make their own. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.08 09:06:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Fresh recruits is more likely. New players are probably going to flood into existing corps.
There is going to be a bit of minor corps created, but will be a while before we start to see different corp names at the top unless players from corps we have now branch off and make their own. Subsidiaries, This is what we need.
that way we can take-over corps but keep their names, just own them, get a cut of everthing they make.... like a union with dues.....
kinda like SONY owned Zipper ....
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.08 09:12:00 -
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bla bla bla..
Once again this just feels like a "self-padding in the back" thread. |
Young Gun Qc
Rebelles A Quebec
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Posted - 2013.01.08 09:17:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Fresh recruits is more likely. New players are probably going to flood into existing corps.
There is going to be a bit of minor corps created, but will be a while before we start to see different corp names at the top unless players from corps we have now branch off and make their own. Subsidiaries, This is what we need. that way we can take-over corps but keep their names, just own them, get a cut of everthing they make.... like a union with dues..... kinda like SONY owned Zipper ....
Eeeee sorry Enji but that already exist in EVE ... and they call that Alliance not a Subsidiaries ........... |
Tyler Hall
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.08 09:55:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Funny I haven't seen any SVER on here yet.... Hello to you too, sir! On a serious note, the introduction of the new players is going to be fun no matter what happens...i like easy targets as much as the next merc. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:01:00 -
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Young Gun Qc wrote:Enji Elric wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Fresh recruits is more likely. New players are probably going to flood into existing corps.
There is going to be a bit of minor corps created, but will be a while before we start to see different corp names at the top unless players from corps we have now branch off and make their own. Subsidiaries, This is what we need. that way we can take-over corps but keep their names, just own them, get a cut of everthing they make.... like a union with dues..... kinda like SONY owned Zipper .... Eeeee sorry Enji but that already exist in EVE ... and they call that Alliance not a Subsidiaries ...........
SCREW THAT I want a subsidary not an stinking alliance I don't want someone thinking I took over their corp with a nice phrase like alliance
screw that you work for me (subsidary) we work together (alliance) |
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Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:04:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
I thought I was the answer to the Imperfects. |
Shadows Maker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:12:00 -
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am pretty sure this game will end up with very same members and corps we have now in the beta and then everyone will get bored and eventually leave |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:24:00 -
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Shadows Maker wrote:am pretty sure this game will end up with very same members and corps we have now in the beta and then everyone will get bored and eventually leave Closed beta members just QQ and leave so at least the open ones are just bored |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:51:00 -
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The answer to the Imperfects is to not read their posts. :-/ |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.08 11:01:00 -
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I wonder if opening the beta is really going to have that much of an impact on player counts tbh. It hasn't been that tough to get a beta key since Precursor dropped. Most peopl that really wanna play this game have had the opportunity to play it. The average FPS player will prolly try DUST and not like it. It appeals to people looking for something more. Maybe when the game leaves beta phase it could draw more attention from FPS clans playing other games. But u never know..... |
W0R51N
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.01.08 11:10:00 -
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Once you take away the advantage they have over others, they become average.
The only reason they are considered elite corps is because of their head start. Period.
I personally cant wait for the wipe...i came in just a few days ago and its very hard to compete with the current SP level of the majority of the players right now.
Another thing to consider is most of the players right now split their time between EVE and DUST. Most of the new players that come in when the game is launched will not be playing EVE (yet) and might spend a lot more time playing DUST than the current player base.
I would be interested in seeing how many people right now are ONLY playing DUST. |
BlAkK iC3
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.01.08 11:22:00 -
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New players for an open beta will hold a lot of mystery in everyones eye I think personally. Pretty much what everyone has said is correct, easy picking, will probably join already existing corps, and new corps will pop up.
But think if you were in their shoes, what would you want to do? Join a new corp from new players in the open beta or join a corp whose been here since Closed Beta? I think the answer is more than apparent. Not only will they have more knowledge over the game from corps grinding every week to get the next big advantage over their opponent, but the ties with EVE which a lot of DUST corporations are already pursuing will be a huge factor in the long run. Everyone wants an advantage over the next guy, so what's going to stop that from getting to them? Nothing but their own demise when it comes to them joining a corp created in open beta.
At the end of the day, "top corporations" currently can still uphold their prestigious titles as talent starts to become apparent with the newcomers in open beta. The new people will either wear the boots of a "top corporation" or be crushed below them, their call in the end.
-iC3 out |
oneshytalk
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2013.01.08 11:26:00 -
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open beta = fresh meat for all the old heads i for one do not see any big changes comeing at the top just more deaths of n00bs and KDR boost to them that know were there SP needs to go |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1899
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Posted - 2013.01.08 11:29:00 -
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We're going to be seeing much more enjoyable matchmaking, that's for sure, as the system will be able to pair people off easier. Right now, there simply aren't enough players. It'll be good, I'm pumped. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.01.08 11:38:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
ur both correct and wrong. it depends on if existing clans from other games actually like the game and have the patience to learn and stick to it other than that would be a welcome influx of new players |
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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.08 11:45:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:We're going to be seeing much more enjoyable matchmaking, that's for sure, as the system will be able to pair people off easier.
What matchmaking?
I'm sorry, but calling the current system matchmaking is a cruel joke. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2013.01.08 12:02:00 -
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Flyingconejo wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:We're going to be seeing much more enjoyable matchmaking, that's for sure, as the system will be able to pair people off easier. What matchmaking? I'm sorry, but calling the current system matchmaking is a cruel joke.
apparently they cant do the matchmaking properly cuz of the current low playerbase |
sargeant mike wolfe
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.01.08 12:48:00 -
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All I know is that all hell will break loose when this beta goes public. I'm seeing ppl going crazy with all this beta has to offer with mass drivers and tanks and lazer rifles. Ppl! We must be ready for heavier combat like never before. Because the blueberries are coming. And we must be ready lol |
Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
174
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Posted - 2013.01.08 12:50:00 -
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SMH open beta testers are worse. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
383
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Posted - 2013.01.08 12:56:00 -
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It's gonna be the same slaughter fest as when ps plus users came only on a grand scale |
Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.01.08 12:57:00 -
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Their bitching will blot out the sun. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 13:02:00 -
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W0R51N wrote:Once you take away the advantage they have over others, they become average.
The only reason they are considered elite corps is because of their head start. Period.
I personally cant wait for the wipe...i came in just a few days ago and its very hard to compete with the current SP level of the majority of the players right now.
Actually the player base has been through many wipes, and each time the same core of players rise to the top.
The skill has some to do with sp discrepancies but most of the "elite players" will still win in militia gear it makes little difference when we are all wearing the same stuff.
The real discrepancy comes about the third week when the vets who know how to set up their suits roll over everyone who have been trying different things and not specializing. This is where the vets take a huge leap ahead until newer players catch on. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2013.01.08 13:07:00 -
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Tzaar Bomba wrote:Their bitching will blot out the sun.
Good. We can farm them in the shade |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2013.01.08 13:09:00 -
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W0R51N wrote:Once you take away the advantage they have over others, they become average.
The only reason they are considered elite corps is because of their head start. Period.
I personally cant wait for the wipe...i came in just a few days ago and its very hard to compete with the current SP level of the majority of the players right now.
Another thing to consider is most of the players right now split their time between EVE and DUST. Most of the new players that come in when the game is launched will not be playing EVE (yet) and might spend a lot more time playing DUST than the current player base.
I would be interested in seeing how many people right now are ONLY playing DUST.
Actually the beta has had several wipes so your wrong, the members of the elite corps now were still elite players every other build when everyone was still on even terms. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.08 13:48:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Their bitching will blot out the sun. Good. We can farm them in the shade
Funny....both of you guys :D.
I wish there was another response so I could've added to it lol |
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Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2013.01.08 14:03:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Funny I haven't seen any SVER on here yet....
We have better things to do, other than flopping our epeen around. Shift of powers is commonplace in EVE, if you think it's going to be any different in DUST you will be sorely mistaken.
SVER will be prominent in our on right sooner or later. There are bigger things going on right now other than a BETA version of DUST which is going to be reset in a week or two. And trolling the forums because you know we are grownups (I speak for the majority).
Im here because im at work, that is all. |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2013.01.08 14:04:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:The answer to the Imperfects is to not read their posts. :-/
No,no,no! you bookmark them and in a year we all get to have a good laugh. |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
241
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Posted - 2013.01.08 15:59:00 -
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If, at the very least, Ambush spawns aren't fixed before open beta, this game will retain no new players. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2013.01.08 16:07:00 -
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I am not sure about powershift and all, but if anyone has played with and against us in other games would know that we should not be the 74th/75th CORP LOL... Waiting for open beta and wishing all the existing CORPs all the very best on their new journey. |
epicsting
Doomheim
60
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Posted - 2013.01.08 18:04:00 -
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Can't wait for the new in flux of people from mag into all corps that will be fun, but now cod player they wount take points. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:05:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
Your match is already here, you've just not seen them yet. |
Eternal Technique
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2013.01.08 20:12:00 -
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Shifts in power.....lol
That term is not appropriate considering no corp on the beta has any real power in New Eden, except for Immobile Infantry. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.08 20:26:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:W0R51N wrote:Once you take away the advantage they have over others, they become average.
The only reason they are considered elite corps is because of their head start. Period.
I personally cant wait for the wipe...i came in just a few days ago and its very hard to compete with the current SP level of the majority of the players right now. Actually the player base has been through many wipes, and each time the same core of players rise to the top. The skill has some to do with sp discrepancies but most of the "elite players" will still win in militia gear it makes little difference when we are all wearing the same stuff. The real discrepancy comes about the third week when the vets who know how to set up their suits roll over everyone who have been trying different things and not specializing. This is where the vets take a huge leap ahead until newer players catch on. ^
I don't know how people can't look at the past wipes and not notice the same names always coming out on top. It's true new skill - possibly better - might come around but our vets will hold a strong edge.
And that edge is 2 weeks of grinding after wipe before Open is released publically. Lmfao!~ |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:07:00 -
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Eternal Technique wrote:Shifts in power.....lol
That term is not appropriate considering no corp on the beta has any real power in New Eden, except for Immobile Infantry.
We're taking things very slow though, very, very slow.
There are some corps with a little clout though, ROFL are going quite well and i really enjoyed running into them when they came through our staging system in Syndicate the other day.
I've not seen anyone else from Dust do any EVE side stuff of consequence or PVP.
****, ZionTCD are losing ships left right and center if you check out their killboard. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:14:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Eternal Technique wrote:Shifts in power.....lol
That term is not appropriate considering no corp on the beta has any real power in New Eden, except for Immobile Infantry. We're taking things very slow though, very, very slow. There are some corps with a little clout though, ROFL are going quite well and i really enjoyed running into them when they came through our staging system in Syndicate the other day. I've not seen anyone else from Dust do any EVE side stuff of consequence or PVP. ****, ZionTCD are losing ships left right and center if you check out their killboard. lol really? Gimmie a link so I can laugh up a storm :D |
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KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
320
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:20:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
Your match is already here, you've just not seen them yet.
Play the next tournament then. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:23:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Most of the current "top corporations" will no longer be on short lists for '"top corporations". Serious shifts in power are coming. It's going to be interesting to see how fresh faces factor into the current community. I'm personally hoping that an answer to the imperfects finally presents itself.
Your match is already here, you've just not seen them yet.
It took the community somewhere around 10 months to create an answer to the MAG version of the imperfects and it was a bit too late. Hopefully you guys can present some entertaining fights. |
Deluxe Edition
Like a Boss.
50
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:25:00 -
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The biggest change will be a lot of the players like me who started the current skill point build with very little experience in the previous dust builds. Because of this I didn't know exactly what class I wanted to play and spent the first 4 million skill points figuring that out. Because of that the best suite I have is type-II and makes it impossible to kill those who played a lot in previous builds and knew exactly what they wanted to specialize in from the beginning. Protoman is right.. corps like the Imperfects who holds a distict advantage in the amount of prototype suites in the corp will find that a lot of the people they have been running over with superior suites and skill allocation will no longer be so squishy. |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:34:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Eternal Technique wrote:Shifts in power.....lol
That term is not appropriate considering no corp on the beta has any real power in New Eden, except for Immobile Infantry. We're taking things very slow though, very, very slow. There are some corps with a little clout though, ROFL are going quite well and i really enjoyed running into them when they came through our staging system in Syndicate the other day. I've not seen anyone else from Dust do any EVE side stuff of consequence or PVP. ****, ZionTCD are losing ships left right and center if you check out their killboard.
It seems like you talk about our corp more than we do. It's like you like us or something |
xXTruegamerXx
The Generals
2
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:40:00 -
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Powers will change a bit but people are still going to cheat. Just yesterday i played agaisnt a corp they laged the game and everyone got kicked out good thing you keep your stuff but thats the things that are going to make new players hate this game. |
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