DUST Search - Balancing Swarm launchers

Mr Zitro wrote:

Sloth9230 wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

The main problem I have with swarms is that they have the ability to lob volleys of swarms at me without any risk really. Missiles launchers on tanks have limited distance why don't swarms? The distance isn't a big problem for me it's just the invisibllity of swarms after a long distance and the failed animation of swarms hitting a structure but registering damage on my tank. This also includes the ability to lock on through objects and shot volleys behind objects.
All that being said I know my tank dominates in public matches, and the main reason for that domination is the lack of understanding for Anti-vehicle combat. They challenge my tank when I have a hardener on and they see they are doing little chunks of damage but i am repairing that damage so quickly my tank seems god-like and they give up on trying to kill my tank. Armor hardeners last for long time but they don't last for ever, just like armor repairers. It takes teamwork to kill a tank and . IMO it is easier to kill a tank than keeping one alive(for ambush which I play mostly)

I've fought your tank, that thing was immortal Straight

Mr Zitro wrote:

It takes teamwork to kill a tank teamwork to keep it alive

There's the problem, no one uses teamwork. A random guy shooting at a tank, even with a swarm or forge gun, isn't going to accomplish much. Whenever there's a tank , there's usually only 1 or 2 guys actually targeting it. A guy shooting from behind a rock? Send him some infantry, they only have scramblers and SMG's to defend themselves with anyway.

I think if you are going to attack my tank I should have the ability to retaliate by myself. Swarms have the ability to hit me outside of my blaster's range and if you hug my tank(which is a blind spot for my blaster) you can lob Av nades. These two things I am fine with but if you are in my range and can hit me I should be able to hit you right back.

As for my tank being immortal, I have it at the max an armor tank can get. The only thing I can do to better my tank is increase it's damage output (aka new blasters)


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fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.02.10 00:53:00 - [1] - Quote You CANNOT GET A LOCK FROM BEHIND COVER!!! yes you can lock a tank that only a portion is sticking out from cover, so as far as the tanker is concerned you are behind cover, but you must be able to see at least 25% of the vehicle to get a lock. You give me a standard RPG and I will still hit you from "behind cover" and hell even more cover because the second I see 1% of your tank I will spam it as fast as I can. Stop being stupid, stop running militia, stop running alone. Any half way decent tanker will get me or get away from me 100% of the time, if I don't get back up from my team. if you are getting shot down as a dropship by swarm you are stupid you should never get hit by more the one round of swarm EVER. and dont run a lav when there is av on the field I mean durrrrrrrrr.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.02.10 00:58:00 - [2] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: The main problem I have with swarms is that they have the ability to lob volleys of swarms at me without any risk really. Missiles launchers on tanks have limited distance why don't swarms? The distance isn't a big problem for me it's just the invisibllity of swarms after a long distance and the failed animation of swarms hitting a structure but registering damage on my tank. This also includes the ability to lock on through objects and shot volleys behind objects. All that being said I know my tank dominates in public matches, and the main reason for that domination is the lack of understanding for Anti-vehicle combat. They challenge my tank when I have a hardener on and they see they are doing little chunks of damage but i am repairing that damage so quickly my tank seems god-like and they give up on trying to kill my tank. Armor hardeners last for long time but they don't last for ever, just like armor repairers. It takes teamwork to kill a tank and . IMO it is easier to kill a tank than keeping one alive(for ambush which I play mostly) I've fought your tank, that thing was immortal Mr Zitro wrote: It takes teamwork to kill a tank teamwork to keep it alive There's the problem, no one uses teamwork. A random guy shooting at a tank, even with a swarm or forge gun, isn't going to accomplish much. Whenever there's a tank , there's usually only 1 or 2 guys actually targeting it. A guy shooting from behind a rock? Send him some infantry, they only have scramblers and SMG's to defend themselves with anyway. I think if you are going to attack my tank I should have the ability to retaliate by myself. Swarms have the ability to hit me outside of my blaster's range and if you hug my tank(which is a blind spot for my blaster) you can lob Av nades. These two things I am fine with but if you are in my range and can hit me I should be able to hit you right back. As for my tank being immortal, I have it at the max an armor tank can get. The only thing I can do to better my tank is increase it's damage output (aka new blasters) play swarm some time , you can hit any one shooting at you you just have to move they cant lock you with out seeing 25% of your tank.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.02.10 02:31:00 - [3] - Quote mmmmm the troll says "I'm not a troll that guys the troll" got it.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.02.10 02:36:00 - [4] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: I think if you are going to attack my tank I should have the ability to retaliate by myself. Swarms have the ability to hit me outside of my blaster's range and if you hug my tank(which is a blind spot for my blaster) you can lob Av nades. These two things I am fine with but if you are in my range and can hit me I should be able to hit you right back. so you are saying they need to get rid of mass drivers??? or make MD rounds fly straight and have less splash. oh and grenades have to go too. I mean really that's what it comes down to. you can hit them right back as soon as you move like six feet forward or three feet back.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.02.10 02:55:00 - [5] - Quote sorry I forgot you are impervious to sarcasm due to your lack of intellect Zitro I'll make sure to use tags just for you next time.