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Magpie Raven
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:29:00 -
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Has anyone else noticed an issue with how things are named.
For example.
The Assault rifle is called Assault Rifle. Even though this is the Caldari varient. What happens when we get Gallente, MinMatar and Amarr versions? There needs to be a names for each variant such as Blaster rifle, Scrambler Rifle, or Autogun.
Just like how we got multiple assault rifles like the AK-47, M16, SCAR, FAMAS. Theyr all assault rifles but they are called different things.
This can be carried over into all the other weapons and weapon classes in this game. I hope when the full game is ready this issue will be resolved. |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:44:00 -
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I've had a long standing issue with they way they name the rifles and even deal with the progression of the stats. Fake variety I like to call it. You are absolutely right about needing unique names for the weapons. Having word names like "Banshee" and "Firenova" or whatever are corny at best. Have numbers and letters like modern weapons. It will cut down on the text vomit the menus are graced with too. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2046
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:45:00 -
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Beta |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:40:00 -
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It seems like we are playing with a real mixed bag of weapons. They didn't have time to do the full racial families so we get bits and pieces. It's going to take a major push on design and art to get this fixed and is going to screw with the skill tree. This is also going to be hell to balance.
Mistake to not tackle it before Open Beta. I'm not holding any hope that this is resolved in the "content" patch which is supposed to be next. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:54:00 -
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psh |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2013.01.07 00:04:00 -
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Right Click+Rename
Caldari Assault Rifle. Game fixed!!! |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
208
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Posted - 2013.01.07 00:31:00 -
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Also easy enough to add in Caldari Assault Rifle skill and Gallente Assault Rifle skill etc. When everything is wiped (at open beta / next build) ... the Caldari skill could require Assault Rifle Operation level 1 and Gallente skill requires level 4 leaving level 5 to open up Assault Rifle Proficiency which can allow access to the Tech 2 Assault Rifles when they are ready.
Same goes for everything else that will have a racial variant ... the skill we have now unlocks the different races skill book at different levels and each racial skill unlocks the advanced and proto of each item, with the Tech 2 stuff unlocked at Proficiency 5 when it's released.
And each races items would be slightly better at the job than the others like Minmatar being Projectile weapon oriented would have the best Autocannon and Artillery turrets requiring Autocannon Operation 4 to use the skillbook Minmatar Autocannon Turret where the Caldari version could be trained at level 1 but offers an inferior turret.
Not saying this is how it will be, but it's a simple way to do it. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
428
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Posted - 2013.01.07 02:00:00 -
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Magpie Raven wrote:
The Assault rifle is called Assault Rifle. Even though this is the Gallente varient. What happens when we get Caldari, MinMatar
Fixed |
amarrian victorian
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.07 02:12:00 -
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so are their going to be different race weapons like that?
will their be an amarr or caldari SMG? will their be a gallente laser rifle? I don't think their would be. laser rifles seem to be the amarr assault rifle for example. |
Magpie Raven
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
161
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Posted - 2013.01.07 02:21:00 -
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amarrian victorian wrote:so are their going to be different race weapons like that?
will their be an amarr or caldari SMG? will their be a gallente laser rifle? I don't think their would be. laser rifles seem to be the amarr assault rifle for example.
I think there will be weapons that are unique to the race. For example the laser rifle, possibly the mass driver is unique as well But im sure there will be a racial varient of all the main weapon types.
i.e Heavy Anti-Inffantry, Heavy AV, Assault Rifle, Sidearm, Sniper Rifle, SMG, Shotguns, etc |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2013.01.07 02:53:00 -
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To quickly answer you,
Every race will have an answer to a certain goal, they will use different weapons to do so.
For example
Light Machine Gun
Plasma Rifle (currently named assault rifle)
Laser Rifle
Gauss Rifle
All fill the assault rifle role
There won't be a caldari smg by the exact name but there may be a caldari short range weapon answer to a very light weight cqc weapon, there wont be a minmatar plasma shotgun (though do expect a traditional shotgun form them with probably better range) or an amarrian forge gun.
Major reasons behind this is technlogy philosphies co working together.
If all Amarrian weapons are laser based it quickly allows for use of technologies that effects all laser based weapons for example. IE Laser Weapon Upgrades
As the game expands you will see more and more racial 'symmetry' where every race has an answer to the otter races'
IE every race will have their own suits of all classes, own vehicles of all types, including MCCs and maybe even the warbarges as well. Hell it may get to the point all the facilities will have racial variants as well. (Gallente Biomass, Caldari Comms, Amarr Factories) |
Magpie Raven
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
161
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Posted - 2013.01.07 02:59:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:To quickly answer you,
Every race will have an answer to a certain goal, they will use different weapons to do so.
For example
Light Machine Gun
Plasma Rifle (currently named assault rifle)
Laser Rifle
Gauss Rifle
all fill the assault rifle role
There wont be a caldari smg by the exact name but there may be a caldari short range weapon answer to a very light weight cqc weapon, there wont be a minmatar plasma shotgun (though do expect a traditional shotgun form them with probably better range) or an amarrian forge gun.
Major reasons behind this is technlogy philosphies co working together.
If all Amarrian weapons are laser based it quickly allows for use of technologies that effects all laser based weapons for example. IE Laser Weapon Upgrades
I do hope it will be like this. and in yur inventory and market it needs to all be under the label ASSAULT RIFLES |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2013.01.07 03:01:00 -
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Magpie Raven wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:To quickly answer you,
Every race will have an answer to a certain goal, they will use different weapons to do so.
For example
Light Machine Gun
Plasma Rifle (currently named assault rifle)
Laser Rifle
Gauss Rifle
all fill the assault rifle role
There wont be a caldari smg by the exact name but there may be a caldari short range weapon answer to a very light weight cqc weapon, there wont be a minmatar plasma shotgun (though do expect a traditional shotgun form them with probably better range) or an amarrian forge gun.
Major reasons behind this is technlogy philosphies co working together.
If all Amarrian weapons are laser based it quickly allows for use of technologies that effects all laser based weapons for example. IE Laser Weapon Upgrades I do hope it will be like this. and in yur inventory and market it needs to all be under the label ASSAULT RIFLES
Chances are its going to be
Infantry Weapons > Light Weapons > Gallente > Plasma Rifles
Infantry Weapons > Light Weapons > Caldari > Gauss Rifles
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Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
185
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:03:00 -
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Magpie Raven wrote:Has anyone else noticed an issue with how things are named.
For example.
The Assault rifle is called Assault Rifle. Even though this is the Caldari varient. What happens when we get Gallente, MinMatar and Amarr versions? There needs to be a names for each variant such as Blaster rifle, Scrambler Rifle, or Autogun.
Just like how we got multiple assault rifles like the AK-47, M16, SCAR, FAMAS. Theyr all assault rifles but they are called different things.
This can be carried over into all the other weapons and weapon classes in this game. I hope when the full game is ready this issue will be resolved.
current AR is the galentai variant Caldari focus on rail-gun tech not plasma based projectiles |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:09:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:Magpie Raven wrote:Has anyone else noticed an issue with how things are named.
For example.
The Assault rifle is called Assault Rifle. Even though this is the Caldari varient. What happens when we get Gallente, MinMatar and Amarr versions? There needs to be a names for each variant such as Blaster rifle, Scrambler Rifle, or Autogun.
Just like how we got multiple assault rifles like the AK-47, M16, SCAR, FAMAS. Theyr all assault rifles but they are called different things.
This can be carried over into all the other weapons and weapon classes in this game. I hope when the full game is ready this issue will be resolved. current AR is the galentai variant Caldari focus on rail-gun tech not plasma based projectiles
railguns and blasters are both utilizing hybrid technology. |
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