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2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:57:00 -
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I want it, bring it back. It was good and see no reason it should have been taken away.
Was my favorite gun. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:19:00 -
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Do they still have the other breach forge guns? |
2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:54:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Do they still have the other breach forge guns?
yes |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:13:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Tectonious Falcon wrote:Do they still have the other breach forge guns? yes
Then CCP made a very stupid move removing the proto one. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:18:00 -
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I had never even noticed :/
I don't think this would have been done intentionally. The proto breach seems like such an obscure weapon to nerf. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:45:00 -
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i believe they removed it cuz they nerfed the rails dmg as well
currently a standard Breach FG does more base dmg than a proto railgun...... |
WHz DS9899
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:30:00 -
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Not untill they nerf AV as a whole |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:07:00 -
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WHz DS9899 wrote:Not untill they nerf AV as a whole
no. Tanks need a little buffing, but as they are now they're horrendously effective when used correctly. There is no point in AV if the AV can't kill the tanks. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:57:00 -
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Bump |
2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:19:00 -
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bump |
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2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.02.10 21:53:00 -
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bump |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.02.10 23:05:00 -
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+1
I know of no reason for it's removal. CCP please either restore the weapon or explain it's absence, if there is an issue with the prior iteration surly there's a way to touch it up so that it could be reintroduced?
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2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.03.03 00:57:00 -
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bump |
CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.03.03 15:55:00 -
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+1 I agree
Breach forge gun is one of many favorite guns out there. To remove it is plain silly. Its a difficult weapon to use as it is and it has very little splash damage..... so its ok to have tanks tb at ha e 12k ehp and higher but not have a weapon that can rock paper scissor it. Not asking to one shot the proto tanks by any means but if I advance in av I should have the weapons to deal with them
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CPL Bloodstone
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Posted - 2013.03.04 19:05:00 -
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Bumpage
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2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.04.04 13:05:00 -
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Still waiting for a dev to reply and say if this was a intentional removal or a bug |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.04 13:15:00 -
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I disagree
A handheld weapon such as the forge gun which uses the same mechanics as a railgun, how can it do more damage than a vehicle mounted railgun which requires 10x the amount of PG and needs a vehicle to be useful
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.04.04 14:34:00 -
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It was taken out because 2 shot killing marauders was a bit much... 3 is fine... 2 not so much  |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.04.04 14:55:00 -
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Ha I can 3-4 shot most proto tanks with the dua breech forge on the proto suit with 3 complex damage mods  the proto would one shot most sub proto builds if you get the sweet spot ob the back of the tank. I miss the proto breech . Breech forge guns require a more cunning operative and removing the proto was honestly a bad idea. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.04.04 17:09:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I disagree
A handheld weapon such as the forge gun which uses the same mechanics as a railgun, how can it do more damage than a vehicle mounted railgun which requires 10x the amount of PG and needs a vehicle to be useful
Those tanks also don't require ammo and have unlimited ammunition, have a MASSIVELY higher shot range, faster firing time, larger mobility, more protection and health and repair and hardeners.
A tank is only hurt badly by about 5% of all in game weapons, swarm, av, forge, other tanks.
everyone has a decent weapon to kill infantry not everyone has a decent weapon to kill top tier tanks
A heavy proto dmg mod forge gun suit costs over 600k moves super slow and can be damaged by 99.9% (the exception being AV grenades and flux grenades of all in game weapons).
He only has a limited amount of shots and has to watch out for every other player in the game. His rounds give him a massive visual and radar profile and snipers can kill him with relative easy or prevent him from hunting the tank.
for his tank kill he is lucky to get 200k isk as reward for that, and can really not do much else in combat unlike the assault forge gun, or officer forge gun.
As you can see everything stacks in the tanks favor.
It requires a large amount of skill to be successful with a breach forge vs a tank. |
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2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.04.04 17:47:00 -
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New info: Talked to CCP Null on Dust mIRC and he said it was removed on purpose. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
531
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Posted - 2013.04.04 19:08:00 -
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Proto breech forge guns did more damage then a mounted railgun, that is why it was taken out. A handheld weapon shouldn't be doing more damage then a mounted weapon |
Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
90
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Posted - 2013.04.04 19:17:00 -
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ONLY IF YOU MAKE THE COMPRESSED PROTO RAIL GUN'S DAMAGE 2700. |
BulletSnitcheZ
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:49:00 -
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I'll welcome the Breach Forge Gun back into the game, but there's no way it should be killing marauder tanks in 1-2 hits. HELL NO.
Tanks need a resistance / HP buff before we can even think about putting that thing back in the game.
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
801
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:05:00 -
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You realize, only to be fair, that CCP must introduce Proto Charge Sniper Rifles....is that a buzzkill or what? |
Ashes Rain
Knights of No Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.04.05 16:49:00 -
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I agree. I need it. I'd even go so far as to say to remove the Proto Assault Forge Gun and replace it with the Breach variant. |
Godin Thekiller
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
31
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Posted - 2013.04.05 16:58:00 -
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Not untill vehicles stop being glass cannons |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2013.04.05 17:49:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I disagree
A handheld weapon such as the forge gun which uses the same mechanics as a railgun, how can it do more damage than a vehicle mounted railgun which requires 10x the amount of PG and needs a vehicle to be useful
Those tanks also don't require ammo and have unlimited ammunition, have a MASSIVELY higher shot range, faster firing time, larger mobility, more protection and health and repair and hardeners. A tank is only hurt badly by about 5% of all in game weapons, swarm, av, forge, other tanks. everyone has a decent weapon to kill infantry not everyone has a decent weapon to kill top tier tanks A heavy proto dmg mod forge gun suit costs over 600k moves super slow and can be damaged by 99.9% (the exception being AV grenades and flux grenades of all in game weapons). He only has a limited amount of shots and has to watch out for every other player in the game. His rounds give him a massive visual and radar profile and snipers can kill him with relative easy or prevent him from hunting the tank. for his tank kill he is lucky to get 200k isk as reward for that, and can really not do much else in combat unlike the assault forge gun, or officer forge gun. As you can see everything stacks in the tanks favor. It requires a large amount of skill to be successful with a breach forge vs a tank.
Majority of breach users are hiding somewhere high on a hill out of site where only a sniper may get them, they may have a long charge time but it deals more damage than a vehicle mounted railgun and has a range as far as one it seems maybe a little bit less
It will only come out when needed and can change out of it when needed
Until the dropsuit manages to gain an extra 1000pg to fit it then it shouldnt be in
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pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
123
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Posted - 2013.04.05 19:10:00 -
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The range on the breech forge guns is allot less than the rail gun on a tank . I think my forges have a range between 300 and 409 m with sharp shooter level 2 . Yes the breech dose unspeakable dammage but you neex 6 seconds to charge it up and you cant move when it is charging . |
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