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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:20:00 -
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FROM Twitter My Friends
_______________________________________________________________________________________________ By Erlendur GÇÅ@erlendur 12 hrs ago Erlendur S. +Porsteinsson is the Software Director of @EVEOnline at @CCPGames. Also known as CCP Explorer.
More hardware was added to TQ this downtime in preparation for #dust514. Exciting times ahead #tweetfleet :)
@erlendur really? Are we that close? What form of Soon are we talking about?
Details
By GÇÅ@erlendur Days. (If all goes well.)
-The new hardware is geared for the proxies (cluster dispatch layer) but not the location nodes (solarsystems)
-Details will be provided soon and stuff will be migrated (exact details on what and how will be provided).
-Stay tuned for tomorrow ;)
ErlendurGÇÅ@erlendur
TQ has run with 20 proxies (cluster dispatch layer) for EVE, there are now 40 and will be 60 tomorrow (20 for EVE, 40 for DUST).
https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/287533033651855360
Well if all goes to what CCP has been doing, then my prediction is correct
The 10th and the tinfoil hat
CCP Nullarbor GÇÅ@CCP_Nullarbor @DUST514Base @ZIonShad open beta will not be this week but we will be announcing dates in the next couple of days. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:24:00 -
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Damn cool, hoping for a surprise patch as well. But it will be cool to meet the EvE players finally. |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:25:00 -
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Link to twitter for those that are interested.
Some details on the upgrades. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:27:00 -
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... Now I am even less interested in playing if reset is around the corner. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:27:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Damn cool, hoping for a surprise patch as well. But it will be cool to meet the EvE players finally.
Eve players will not need a patch, its a server switch on their end and likely ours as well, TQ and Sisi are on the same build atm. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Damn cool, hoping for a surprise patch as well. But it will be cool to meet the EvE players finally. Eve players will not need a patch, its a server switch on their end and likely ours as well, TQ and Sisi are on the same build atm.
He's right the build is already out and all they needed was the hardware which was just added. We will switch servers, have a wipe to all our SP, Item's, AUR reset and all that jazz
FW is already in place and the battles will soon begin for New Eden
EVE has hit a record on Capsuleers online as well tonight. |
Gaff Origami
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:36:00 -
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So I should spend my 25M ISK now? |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:36:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:EVE has hit a record on Capsuleers online as well tonight.
I thought that record (63165 PCU) was recorded on 2011-01-23
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:41:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:Zion Shad wrote:EVE has hit a record on Capsuleers online as well tonight. I thought that record (63165 PCU) was recorded on 2011-01-23
Quote:Erlendur GÇÅ@erlendur
We are near record numbers on TQ tonight and it's "only" Sat and not peak hour yet :) I wonder what Sun at peak will bring us #tweetfleet
SO LOG ON NOW! |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:49:00 -
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So is this just "hardware" to upgrade our connectivity, etc. or are we looking at a new build+reset? I don't know what cluster dispatch layers are so that's why I'm asking. |
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:54:00 -
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Well if all goes to what CCP has been doing, then my prediction is correct
The 10th and the tinfoil hat |
Luke Vetri
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
48
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:54:00 -
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Hardware despatch layer, is the hardware that directs players logging in to available battle servers (in the case of EvE region servers) has nothing to do with game code.
The may or may not patch EvE/Dust at the same time, but they don't have to, so any speculation on a new patch is just that, speculation. |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:55:00 -
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In short "cluster dispatch layers" are the outermost layer of TQ that does the 'talking' to EVE client and DUST client.
So by adding these additional hardware CCP is preparing the TQ to handle alot more simultaneous client calls to TQ. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:55:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:So is this just "hardware" to upgrade our connectivity, etc. or are we looking at a new build+reset? I don't know what cluster dispatch layers are so that's why I'm asking.
ErlendurGÇÅ@erlendur
TQ has run with 20 proxies (cluster dispatch layer) for EVE, there are now 40 and will be 60 tomorrow (20 for EVE, 40 for DUST).
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2013.01.06 03:04:00 -
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Cluster layer basically is inter work between all the other kinds of servers eve and dust 514 use co jointly.
"Persona" Server for example holds all your character information. "Inventory" hold every containers item inventory. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.06 03:05:00 -
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Can't wait! |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.06 03:56:00 -
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In layman's terms....what does this mean for us???? |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.06 03:58:00 -
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I asked if we should burn through our ISK and AUR before the migration. Erlendur wouldn't commit and said there will be a migration but gave no details on how much.
Screw it. I'm at least using a bunch of what I have. |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:21:00 -
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Yeah what Ydubbs said. What the hell are you guys going on about? |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:23:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:In layman's terms....what does this mean for us????
We are moving to Open Beta, We are getting a wipe and we will be able to TALK, Post Vids and invite everyone to play this Free to Play Game without them needing a Beta Key! |
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Tenchu-13
What The French
76
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:27:00 -
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SOONGäó
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aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:28:00 -
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damn it...... all my stuff is gonna be wasted. |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:35:00 -
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I'm taking this news with a grain of salt. |
Tenchu-13
What The French
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:38:00 -
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It's still speculations... yet I sooo hope it is true.
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:39:00 -
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My brother and I just had a thought...
What if...
...CCP were to not only do a character wipe on Dust mercs but ACCIDENTALLY on Eve capsuleers as well?
...
CCP, be careful with this. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:40:00 -
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They dont use this any more |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:40:00 -
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And I didn't get to reach prototype scout yet. Damn. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:41:00 -
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Tenchu-13 wrote:It's still speculations... yet I sooo hope it is true.
Far from it. This will happen |
Tenchu-13
What The French
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:48:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Tenchu-13 wrote:It's still speculations... yet I sooo hope it is true.
Far from it. This will happen
I'll have to see it first before I believe it, until then I still consider it speculation. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:50:00 -
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I just hope we're not being trolled by CCP. But then again, it's not April 1st yet. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:55:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:In layman's terms....what does this mean for us???? We are moving to Open Beta, We are getting a wipe and we will be able to TALK, Post Vids and invite everyone to play this Free to Play Game without them needing a Beta Key!
An open beta in days...or will they announce in days? |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:00:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Zion Shad wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:In layman's terms....what does this mean for us???? We are moving to Open Beta, We are getting a wipe and we will be able to TALK, Post Vids and invite everyone to play this Free to Play Game without them needing a Beta Key! An open beta in days...or will they announce in days?
I think we hear on Monday what and when is going on.
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:03:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Zion Shad wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:In layman's terms....what does this mean for us???? We are moving to Open Beta, We are getting a wipe and we will be able to TALK, Post Vids and invite everyone to play this Free to Play Game without them needing a Beta Key! An open beta in days...or will they announce in days? I think we hear on Monday what and when is going on.
They said more info tomorrow. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:03:00 -
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While I hope you are correct Shad, I doubt it. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:04:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote: While I hope you are correct Shad, I doubt it.
TQ already has the software loaded to support Dust; hardware is the last major hurdle. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:10:00 -
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Prepare for tear collection. All those that don't pay attention to the news and see their precious SP gone... |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:11:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Prepare for tear collection. All those that don't pay attention to the news and see their precious SP gone...
Tear jar ready. |
Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:14:00 -
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i think we will all be happy; but at same time; the move isn't the "important" part; but a hope that it will also include an update. B/c as is, this game now will not attract & hold many people with the current build.
That & if we all start from scratch; i have no idea what to put SP into if things stay the way they are :( |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:18:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:i think we will all be happy; but at same time; the move isn't the "important" part; but a hope that it will also include an update. B/c as is, this game now will not attract & hold many people with the current build.
That & if we all start from scratch; i have no idea what to put SP into if things stay the way they are :(
It's not the build. It's the server. Singularity is not known to hold many players. Tranquility is specifically suited to handling tons of players at once. So moving to TQ could solve much of the problems we have now in regards to lag. Who knows. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:21:00 -
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Since we're going to TQ I wonder if there will be another wipe to go "live". Doesn't seem right since we'll be living in the real world. I'm hoping it is a beta only in the sense that things can change unexpectedly but our characters go on as is.
I'm going to be more focused on logistics. I trained all the weapons to 3 except for the heavy stuff. Being able to jump into sniper to take care of pests and swarms to deal with vehicles was nice. Did the shoty and knife scout some too but I think I'm done testing. Logistics and mass driver all the way now. |
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:22:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:My brother and I just had a thought...
What if...
...CCP were to not only do a character wipe on Dust mercs but ACCIDENTALLY on Eve capsuleers as well?
...
CCP, be careful with this.
Them there's fightin words Don't even joke about something like bro, most people have been on eve since the beginning. |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:22:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Berserker007 wrote:i think we will all be happy; but at same time; the move isn't the "important" part; but a hope that it will also include an update. B/c as is, this game now will not attract & hold many people with the current build.
That & if we all start from scratch; i have no idea what to put SP into if things stay the way they are :( It's not the build. It's the server. Singularity is not known to hold many players. Tranquility is specifically suited to handling tons of players at once. So moving to TQ could solve much of the problems we have now in regards to lag. Who knows.
Atleast in regards to charachter info, market info and things like that.... in-match lag isn't related to TQ or SiSi, since matches hapen in battleservers that are different servers. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:24:00 -
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Tenchu-13 wrote:It's still speculations... yet I sooo hope it is true.
Its only 'speculation' if a certain rumor has been created by the players with no evidence to back it up, in this case......there's hard evidence on the ccp twitter page, so not speculation this time dude. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:27:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Zion Shad wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:In layman's terms....what does this mean for us???? We are moving to Open Beta, We are getting a wipe and we will be able to TALK, Post Vids and invite everyone to play this Free to Play Game without them needing a Beta Key! An open beta in days...or will they announce in days?
In Day's. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:27:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:My brother and I just had a thought...
What if...
...CCP were to not only do a character wipe on Dust mercs but ACCIDENTALLY on Eve capsuleers as well?
...
CCP, be careful with this. Them there's fightin words Don't even joke about something like bro, most people have been on eve since the beginning.
I know. I just can't help but wonder. Remember boot.ini? |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:29:00 -
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Zion Shad, you seem very certain about this. And you didn't say "soon" at all and Erlendur didn't include the (TM) when he said "soon" in his subsequent tweets. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2013.01.06 06:22:00 -
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When a developer says soon without TM.
That means he does know the exact launch date provided everything falls into place. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.06 06:25:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor just posted that we aren't going to Open Beta this week but we will be finding out the date this week. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.01.06 06:35:00 -
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So moving to TQ automatically makes it an open beta? Unless stated by CCP, I'm not sure that could be the case. EVE won't see the game like we do, and while it will be open for EVE players, it may still be considered closed for Dust players. Plus I thought CCP was saying for the open beta (Dust side) there would be a new build and one last wipe, and I kinda doubt they are releasing another build that quickly.
And if a wipe was coming this soon, I imagine they would inform us more than a few days in advance. I honestly hope there is no wipe, it's too soon for that.
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Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.06 06:35:00 -
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@CCP_Nullarbor @DUST514Base @ZIonShad open beta will not be this week but we will be announcing dates in the next couple of days.
https://twitter.com/CCP_Nullarbor/status/287792450095951872 |
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Cody Sietz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
63
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Posted - 2013.01.06 06:37:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:CCP Nullarbor just posted that we aren't going to Open Beta this week but we will be finding out the date this week. Either way, im gonna start flying those vipers I stockpiled up.
Watch out ground! Im coming for ya! |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2013.01.06 06:41:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor GÇÅ@CCP_Nullarbor @DUST514Base @ZIonShad open beta will not be this week but we will be announcing dates in the next couple of days.
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Enkidu Camuel
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
69
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Posted - 2013.01.06 07:05:00 -
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This build is pretty "new" and CCP needs to polish a lot of stuff first, so I say Open Beta will most likely happen:
1) At the end of this month (doubtful)
2) Next month (early or late)
3) Two months from now on. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.01.06 09:40:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:And I didn't get to reach prototype scout yet. Damn.
I'm in the same boat, I have yet to get a proto suit yet. Stupid tanking |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.06 11:02:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:So moving to TQ automatically makes it an open beta? Unless stated by CCP, I'm not sure that could be the case. EVE won't see the game like we do, and while it will be open for EVE players, it may still be considered closed for Dust players. Plus I thought CCP was saying for the open beta (Dust side) there would be a new build and one last wipe, and I kinda doubt they are releasing another build that quickly.
And if a wipe was coming this soon, I imagine they would inform us more than a few days in advance. I honestly hope there is no wipe, it's too soon for that.
Thing to note here is that IF it is the case that we move to TQ(EVE live server) and be in closed beta still and not have a new build and wipe, then there is these minor issues like;
What would hapen in case of corporation that is DUST led but has EVE pilots in it and EVE pilots that have transferred assets and ISK to that corp?
Or some one would create corp on EVE side and have that corporation have 0.0 sov and assets and hand over CEO position to DUST player. Would those assets still be wiped?
What about corporation donating billions of ISK to DUST char?
This is why I believe that moving to TQ will be the last wipe. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:22:00 -
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NDA should come up soon. The log in screen no longer has it up to agree to. This means every Christmas noob that has this game already Pre-loaded has no idea he/she is under a NDA. Heck they prob don't even know about this forum. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:27:00 -
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@zion
I ran into a player some time ago who told me he never visited the forums. Probably still doesn't. |
DeeJay One
BetaMax.
9
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:29:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:Quote edited with bullet points ;)Thing to note here is that IF it is the case that we move to TQ(EVE live server) and be in closed beta still and not have a new build and wipe, then there is these minor issues like;
- What would hapen in case of corporation that is DUST led but has EVE pilots in it and EVE pilots that have transferred assets and ISK to that corp?
- Or some one would create corp on EVE side and have that corporation have 0.0 sov and assets and hand over CEO position to DUST player. Would those assets still be wiped?
- What about corporation donating billions of ISK to DUST char?
This is why I believe that moving to TQ will be the last wipe.
Well, it will probably a character asset/skill wipe not a corporation wipe, and as far as I checked there are no Dust corps on TQ. @1. Probably an ISK sink ;) Right now Dust corps can't have any assets except of clones and ISK (correct me if I'm wrong) and it'll probably stay that way +/- restrictions on moving things between corps
@2. Characters won't be wiped, (with a 99% certainity) only their assets/skills so this is almost a non issue (well, the corp CEO needs to have the corp skills...)
@3. You can't donate ISK to a Dust char on SiSi right now, and it will rather stay that way... |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:08:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@zion
I ran into a player some time ago who told me he never visited the forums. Probably still doesn't.
I'm the guy in my EVE channel that reads the news and talks to the devs. Everyone else is always, "What the hell? Why doesn't my stuff work the same? What did they do?". Of course, CCP publishes most changes weeks or months in advance.
Just reading the login screen would help.
Silly people.
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:13:00 -
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Bad idea to go open if the next build is like this one |
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Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
91
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:28:00 -
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damn and i just went proto |
Makuta Miserix
Better Hide R Die
33
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:29:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Bad idea to go open if the next build is like this one
Why's that? |
xMarauder
Doomheim
139
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:33:00 -
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We're moving to open beta soon?
I can't wait... The NOOBS...... THE GLORIOUS FREE KILLS!!!!!!! |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:39:00 -
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forums better be prepared for "OH BUT IN COD!!!"
all QQ and butthurt is only days away |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:44:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Bad idea to go open if the next build is like this one Why's that?
The general dumbing down of everything so you can kill anything while being in milita gear and the lack of incentive to lvl up and use 'better gear' because better gear sucks |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:46:00 -
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xMarauder wrote:We're moving to open beta soon? I can't wait... The NOOBS...... THE GLORIOUS FREE KILLS!!!!!!! yea it's going to be a full scale slaughter.
i guess i'll bring out 27 balacs before the reset |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:01:00 -
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xMarauder wrote:We're moving to open beta soon? I can't wait... The NOOBS...... THE GLORIOUS FREE KILLS!!!!!!! The blueberries! The HORROR OF NO REAL TEAM!!!!!!!!!! |
Washlee
UnReaL.
131
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:05:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:Quote edited with bullet points ;)Thing to note here is that IF it is the case that we move to TQ(EVE live server) and be in closed beta still and not have a new build and wipe, then there is these minor issues like;
- What would hapen in case of corporation that is DUST led but has EVE pilots in it and EVE pilots that have transferred assets and ISK to that corp?
- Or some one would create corp on EVE side and have that corporation have 0.0 sov and assets and hand over CEO position to DUST player. Would those assets still be wiped?
- What about corporation donating billions of ISK to DUST char?
This is why I believe that moving to TQ will be the last wipe. Well, it will probably a character asset/skill wipe not a corporation wipe, and as far as I checked there are no Dust corps on TQ. @1. Probably an ISK sink ;) Right now Dust corps can't have any assets except of clones and ISK (correct me if I'm wrong) and it'll probably stay that way +/- restrictions on moving things between corps @2. Characters won't be wiped, (with a 99% certainity) only their assets/skills so this is almost a non issue (well, the corp CEO needs to have the corp skills...) @3. You can't donate ISK to a Dust char on SiSi right now, and it will rather stay that way...
When they mean everything is going to be wiped they mean EVERYTHING. Its going back to a fresh start so none of us have a lead advantage
The only thing you keep is event prizes and AUR.
Corps will be gone , your character stats , leaderboard ranking , Etc
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Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:35:00 -
[69] - Quote
Washlee wrote:DeeJay One wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:Quote edited with bullet points ;)Thing to note here is that IF it is the case that we move to TQ(EVE live server) and be in closed beta still and not have a new build and wipe, then there is these minor issues like;
- What would hapen in case of corporation that is DUST led but has EVE pilots in it and EVE pilots that have transferred assets and ISK to that corp?
- Or some one would create corp on EVE side and have that corporation have 0.0 sov and assets and hand over CEO position to DUST player. Would those assets still be wiped?
- What about corporation donating billions of ISK to DUST char?
This is why I believe that moving to TQ will be the last wipe. Well, it will probably a character asset/skill wipe not a corporation wipe, and as far as I checked there are no Dust corps on TQ. @1. Probably an ISK sink ;) Right now Dust corps can't have any assets except of clones and ISK (correct me if I'm wrong) and it'll probably stay that way +/- restrictions on moving things between corps @2. Characters won't be wiped, (with a 99% certainity) only their assets/skills so this is almost a non issue (well, the corp CEO needs to have the corp skills...) @3. You can't donate ISK to a Dust char on SiSi right now, and it will rather stay that way... When they mean everything is going to be wiped they mean EVERYTHING. Its going back to a fresh start so none of us have a lead advantage The only thing you keep is event prizes and AUR. Corps will be gone , your character stats , leaderboard ranking , Etc
And btw... What I was talking about there was a speculative case and issues of where:
1. we would been moved to TQ and would be still in closed beta. 2. Have wipe when moving to TQ. 3. Being in TQ with closed beta for some time 4. Have open beta, patch and wipe.
This is speculative case of why I think moving into TQ would be last wipe and at the same time the start of open beta and new patch. And those issues that I posed were situated in timeframe betwene 3. and 4. (Maybe I wasn't too clear with earlied post about that.) |
Atomic Shiver
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
6
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:59:00 -
[70] - Quote
another sp wipe ewww...i for 1 can wait 4 that |
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Scoot Medic
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
50
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:07:00 -
[71] - Quote
Damn, just got back on to this game today in like 2 weeks to see I had 1.6mil SP. Guess I'm going to have to spend it all. |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:10:00 -
[72] - Quote
EnglishSnake wrote:Makuta Miserix wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Bad idea to go open if the next build is like this one Why's that? The general dumbing down of everything so you can kill anything while being in milita gear and the lack of incentive to lvl up and use 'better gear' because better gear sucks
Of course eventually SOMEONE was going to come here to start a thread war here....I just assumed it would be an Imp.
Here's my ultimatum, I'm not going to argue this, so don't bother responding: The gap between proto gear and lower tier gear is fine, stop bitching about it. |
Makuta Miserix
Better Hide R Die
33
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:51:00 -
[73] - Quote
Logi Bro wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Makuta Miserix wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Bad idea to go open if the next build is like this one Why's that? The general dumbing down of everything so you can kill anything while being in milita gear and the lack of incentive to lvl up and use 'better gear' because better gear sucks Of course eventually SOMEONE was going to come here to start a thread war here....I just assumed it would be an Imp. Here's my ultimatum, I'm not going to argue this, so don't bother responding: The gap between proto gear and lower tier gear is fine, stop bitching about it.
Agreed. |
DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:33:00 -
[74] - Quote
eh.. I can see a giant flood of people getting killed by beta veterans causing them all to leave and just pick up Bf3 again. |
Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
174
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:41:00 -
[75] - Quote
I welcome a wipe, with gusta. Time for protobears to be put into place. In all seriousness though it will nerve wrecking with the CoD fanboys. Great thing is though theyll leave. If they cant run n' gun they hate the game. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:53:00 -
[76] - Quote
Just a quick point. Moving us to tq might be meant to only flick a switch as some are saying. But as you, I and more importantly the devs know, nothing ever goes to plan!
With that in mind, well before they flick that switch there will be an announcement on the eve dev blogs to let the non beta, subscription paying customers know that there will be an extended down time, and I'd imagine letting them know why also. CCP have always been really forthcoming with information, letting players know why the servers are down and when it will be well before it happens,
With that in mind, it may be soon, but I doubt anything will be happening in the next couple of weeks. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2013.01.06 21:13:00 -
[77] - Quote
Tzaar Bomba wrote:I welcome a wipe, with gusta. Time for protobears to be put into place. In all seriousness though it will nerve wrecking with the CoD fanboys. Great thing is though theyll leave. If they cant run n' gun they hate the game.
Yup can't wait for a wipe and to go to open beta. Looking forward to it. Just hoping they "really" implement the daily SP system this time. Not just tell us they did, when we all knew they didnt.
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crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:36:00 -
[78] - Quote
:) I'm so ready to get my feet back on the ground. Hoorawr |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:50:00 -
[79] - Quote
Xander Mercy wrote:damn and i just went proto
STORY OF MY LIFE AS A MERC!!!! :[
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:54:00 -
[80] - Quote
Fantastic. -_-
So we can now invite anyone to play this game thats is like 50% done. Closed beta should continue longer tbh. We havent even SEEN district capture mechanics... FW is no where in sight...
Ummm, what is CCP even working on since chromosome deployed!? |
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Michael Sebi
Doomheim
14
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:58:00 -
[81] - Quote
J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Fantastic. -_-
So we can now invite anyone to play this game thats is like 50% done. Closed beta should continue longer tbh. We havent even SEEN district capture mechanics... FW is no where in sight...
Ummm, what is CCP even working on since chromosome deployed!? Something VERY Special, I promise you that . |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:30:00 -
[82] - Quote
Michael Sebi wrote:J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Fantastic. -_-
So we can now invite anyone to play this game thats is like 50% done. Closed beta should continue longer tbh. We havent even SEEN district capture mechanics... FW is no where in sight...
Ummm, what is CCP even working on since chromosome deployed!? Something VERY Special, I promise you that .
All that will come in due time. Eve Online went into full release back 2003 but took nearly 10 years to get to where it is now because there are two new FREE expansions every year. Dust will surely be the same. |
ECHO PACK
Wraith Shadow Guards
45
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:31:00 -
[83] - Quote
please no sp wipe, just a sp reset |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2013.01.07 00:30:00 -
[84] - Quote
I'm pretty sure Singularity is hosted the same place as tranquility, so them having installed 40 new proxies would not necessarily mean they'll be used for TQ immediately.
Not to mention, even if we end up on TQ that does not mean we're done with the pre-last-reset testing. They might decide to hold the last part of the beta on TQ and then reset on launch. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.07 00:35:00 -
[85] - Quote
Interesting. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
208
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Posted - 2013.01.07 01:04:00 -
[86] - Quote
Testing ! On TQ !! ... time to queue a 30 day skill me thinks :-/ |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.07 04:50:00 -
[87] - Quote
Needless Sacermendor wrote:Testing ! On TQ !! ... time to queue a 30 day skill me thinks :-/
Exactly! |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:22:00 -
[88] - Quote
CCC Frame wrote:Hey guys,
Our QA team is currently working on a hotfix to make the Skill Point cap work the way it's supposed to. More information will be available in the Announcements section once we are ready to deploy this to Singularity.
Thank you for your feedback.
Source : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=453314#post453314
I'm trying to find the troll ....
Edit : posted the 4th of January |
Skag Barron
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:58:00 -
[89] - Quote
so am guessing not today then........ |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:00:00 -
[90] - Quote
4 hours ago:
erlendur: @RolyatDerTeufel The announcements are being written.
erlendur: @RolyatDerTeufel No, hold your horses until tomorrow. |
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Scoot Medic
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
50
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:53:00 -
[91] - Quote
A SP wipe is welcome, no more Protos jumping around . By the way, this may seem like a stupid question and it may have already been answered but whats 'TQ' mean? |
BMSTUBBYx
Doomheim
83
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:13:00 -
[92] - Quote
Reav Hannari wrote:4 hours ago:
erlendur: @RolyatDerTeufel The announcements are being written.
erlendur: @RolyatDerTeufel No, hold your horses until tomorrow.
Link or this ^ never happened. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:21:00 -
[93] - Quote
BMSTUBBYx wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:4 hours ago:
erlendur: @RolyatDerTeufel The announcements are being written.
erlendur: @RolyatDerTeufel No, hold your horses until tomorrow. Link or this ^ never happened.
Look up Erlendurs twitter account and see for yourself.
Thanks for the info Royal was wondering when they were going to announce the schedule.
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GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:22:00 -
[94] - Quote
Don't care, they're trolling us, no matter the way...
I begin to understand CCP's way ... |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:26:00 -
[95] - Quote
Today's update:
Erlendur GÇÅ@erlendur One Universe // One War // One Schedule |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:54:00 -
[96] - Quote
Cyn Bruin wrote:Look up Erlendurs twitter account and see for yourself.
Also, follow @CCP_Nullarbor for live tweeting action about status of dev blog.
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Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:04:00 -
[97] - Quote
For those that are interested of refreshing page minute by minute or hourly here are some places to keep an eye on:
http://www.dust514.com/news/blog/
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=898
Also possible hints on progression might be found on:
Twitter https://twitter.com/CCP_Nullarbor https://twitter.com/erlendur
#dust514 |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:40:00 -
[98] - Quote
Brad GÇÅ@Cynical_Texan @erlendur is the One Schedule published anywhere? #dust514
50m Erlendur GÇÅ@erlendur @Cynical_Texan Not yet, but now it's hours and not days // cc: @ReesNoturana @ccp_nullarbor @hansshotfirst @zionshad |
Michael Sebi
Doomheim
14
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:48:00 -
[99] - Quote
Forlorn Destrier wrote:Brad GÇÅ@Cynical_Texan @erlendur is the One Schedule published anywhere? #dust514
50m Erlendur GÇÅ@erlendur @Cynical_Texan Not yet, but now it's hours and not days // cc: @ReesNoturana @ccp_nullarbor @hansshotfirst @zionshad HOURS!?!?!? |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:55:00 -
[100] - Quote
Michael Sebi wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Brad GÇÅ@Cynical_Texan @erlendur is the One Schedule published anywhere? #dust514
50m Erlendur GÇÅ@erlendur @Cynical_Texan Not yet, but now it's hours and not days // cc: @ReesNoturana @ccp_nullarbor @hansshotfirst @zionshad HOURS!?!?!?
Remember: this is just an announcement of open beta release date, in the form of a Dev blog being written right now by CCP Nullarbor (according to his tweets). |
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:59:00 -
[101] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor GÇÅ@CCP_Nullarbor @erlendur @Cynical_Texan @ReesNoturana @hansshotfirst @zionshad Errday I'm dev blogging (ok not everyday, but today at least) |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:50:00 -
[102] - Quote
Erlendur GÇÅ@erlendur
@mxa5022 There will be details very soon. (Message posted ~10min ago) |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:59:00 -
[103] - Quote
Why are they not letting us know anything? Do they want us to move on or something? It been like a month and they said nothing. Is we not important to them? |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.07 21:04:00 -
[104] - Quote
The dev blog is propably written already, but I assume it's now in internal review and maybe sent to CSM for review also.
After the reviews are done then they can publish it. Propably in here DUST beta forums in anouncement section, maybe in EVE dev blog section, DUST public dev blog section and also in related socialmedia sites. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
186
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Posted - 2013.01.07 21:16:00 -
[105] - Quote
CCP really knows how to get it's player base's panties in a bunch it seems. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.07 21:44:00 -
[106] - Quote
arimal lavaren wrote:CCP really knows how to get it's player base's panties in a bunch it seems.
This is the sixth iteration of their trolling schemes and they have become increasingly efficient at it. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.07 21:51:00 -
[107] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:arimal lavaren wrote:CCP really knows how to get it's player base's panties in a bunch it seems. This is the sixth iteration of their trolling schemes and they have become increasingly efficient at it.
They learned after watching these forums. |
Nav The Taller
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.01.07 22:30:00 -
[108] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:arimal lavaren wrote:CCP really knows how to get it's player base's panties in a bunch it seems. This is the sixth iteration of their trolling schemes and they have become increasingly efficient at it.
ERGO! VISA VIS!!! |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
319
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Posted - 2013.01.07 23:27:00 -
[109] - Quote
[15:24] Jaiimez> Guys my girlfriend said apaprently twitter announced Dust is being hooked up to TQ tomorrow, is this true? [15:25] [GM]Pyro> no idea where you heard that [15:25] [GM]Pyro> <3 rumors [15:26] [GM]Pyro> but at least I can say that this particular rumor is false |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:32:00 -
[110] - Quote
Reimus Klinsman wrote:[15:24] Jaiimez> Guys my girlfriend said apaprently twitter announced Dust is being hooked up to TQ tomorrow, is this true? [15:25] [GM]Pyro> no idea where you heard that [15:25] [GM]Pyro> <3 rumors [15:26] [GM]Pyro> but at least I can say that this particular rumor is false
but on twitter.....
Brandon Laurino GÇÅ@CCP_Jian Finalizing test runs. Exciting couple of days ahead. Prepare for impact :-) #whenworldscollide
https://twitter.com/CCP_Jian |
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Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
319
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:06:00 -
[111] - Quote
I GM literally said that the rumor was false. The Twitter comment could purely be excited about getting a nerdgasm about installing hardware that COULD allow dust on TQ. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:10:00 -
[112] - Quote
Not tomorrow. But soon. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2013.01.08 03:16:00 -
[113] - Quote
Look, this is cool and all, but I fail to see any huge implications byond open beta. We already have connected DUST and EVE on Sisi, and shot Eve-Dust OBs, so its not historic in that right...
I for one could care less what server we are on, until the actual mechanics are in place to bridge that gap and make it "One Universe, One War", then the joining servers is moot. It becomes, "One Universe, but war seperated by the atmospheric barrier"
Not hating at all. I just am pointing out how the REAL moment of glory will come when the economies between EVE and DUST link and FW affects standings and such |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.08 04:13:00 -
[114] - Quote
J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Look, this is cool and all, but I fail to see any huge implications byond open beta. We already have connected DUST and EVE on Sisi, and shot Eve-Dust OBs, so its not historic in that right...
I for one could care less what server we are on, until the actual mechanics are in place to bridge that gap and make it "One Universe, One War", then the joining servers is moot. It becomes, "One Universe, but war seperated by the atmospheric barrier"
Not hating at all. I just am pointing out how the REAL moment of glory will come when the economies between EVE and DUST link and FW affects standings and such
A very good point. Well said. The real fun will be in the economics since everything is tied to the economy. FW, SOV, PVE, Salvage, Corp Management, etc. |
BMSTUBBYx
Doomheim
83
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Posted - 2013.01.08 05:17:00 -
[115] - Quote
Quote: CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance
Dear players,
As we are getting closer to the final migration from Singularity to Tranquility, we would like to share some details regarding this process with you. This thread will be disclosing more Singularity - Tranquility migration information later today, stay tuned to this thread.
Thank you.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=50008&find=unread |
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