DUST Search - The IMPs New Groove

Telcontar Dunedain wrote:

Overlord Ulath wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

Poor choices? Like specializing into a certain class and playing smart. I don't understand but what I do understand is this player base is stupid and needs to be educated

Proof.

That all Imperfects need to lighten the **** up.
I mean seriously, everyone one of you in that corp is worse than that sentient archon dude, and he's a complete douchebag. I disagree with him politely and state why and all he does is rage and troll me with made-up bullshit (yeah, sentient, come at me with your "40,000 ISK" fit bro) and scream **** like "you are bad" while ignoring my key points and all of you are about 10X as bad as him.
This guy was making a polite post and your first thought is to insult him? I say again: Proof.

P.S. "I don't understand but I do understand..." is my new favorite sentence fragment.

It's all good Logi Bro. They can be as crass as they wish, I'll keep it classy till the end. Whatever trauma they experienced that makes some of these people try to turn even the cleanest of compliments into an insult has harmed them enough. I need not dirty my hands dropping to the level of "i've killed you more in a fictitious universe, so you are less of a human than me and deserve no dignity" that so many of these people wallow in just to rebut senseless insults.

Ok some nice posts in THIS thread BUT let's get real.

Logibro makes some terrible ignorant trash posts in general and YOU make some terrible trashposts in general (like your posts with the high school math bits the other day where you posted 10 paragraphs, after claiming not to have read any of the thread, which just cemented everyone's impression that you don't know wtf you are talking about :D ).

Please continue explaining to the Imperfects how they should be posting though.


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Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 00:06:00 - [1] - Quote G-Slick in a sucky tank with Mr. Z and O. Z in decent tanks covering him. xproto running a laser in an advanced suit (props to him for finally ditching his proto suit for pub matches, at least temporarily). What REALLY was the best part of the match though, and really made me laugh, was Sleepy Zan in a heavy suit! Oh man that was good! I was so shocked when I saw his name on that heavy suit that I had to try to SMG him (unfortunately I pulled it out after he'd already spotted me...). Sorry if you had new guys running in the match, didn't notice them. I got tired of getting randomly spawned in front of or right next to the tanks so I dropped (no point in spawning in endlessly into instant death, free fit or not), but when I left we were holding them off pretty decent considering we had no true AV players on our side that I was aware of. To Mr. Z & O. Z: Nice tank teamwork, very well played. You let G-Slick get a little too far out of your ability to cover him a few times though, and with only 4000 ish shields that's dangerous with militia forges and swarms abundant. Here's hoping I get to see his tank trying to go solo in a match. To xprotoman: you were getting a little too close to people with that laser dude, gotta sit back and cut people with it from a distance. I know you're used to going in guns-a-blazin', but that doesn't work with the laser. If it wasn't for the two tanks right outside the entrance to the compound I'd have followed you when you fell back to recover. Use your sidearm when you get too close when using the laser rifle. The SMG now trumps the AR at close range in almost every situation if you can aim it. As long as the enemy isn't a shotgunner you should have no issue dropping people with the SMG, I know full well how much skill you've got. To G-Slick: http://siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/ermahgerd%204.jpg To Sleepy Zan: http://www.lawlz.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/turtle-meme-ermahgerd-mershed-perderders-eating-mashed-potatoes.jpg Also, nice HMG work. And lastly, to everyone hating on the IMPs. Yes some of them make poor decisions, and some of them make comments that are ridiculous, but that is because they are people too. They all have human flaws just like the rest of you, but because they trounce you so often you have taken to doing everything you can to pick them apart as much as possible and exploit even the most mundane things they do and turn it into a huge scandal. They have strategy and work well with each other because they know what they are doing. I'd like to request you guys quit your QQ and grief threads over them, it's pointless drivel that serves no purpose other than to further increase their infamy. With as many of you out there who wish they would crash and burn, I'm amazed with how daft you can be as to why they are so well known in the first place. I wrote this thread for two reasons. First, because the IMPs are running a lot of tanks and I know this strategy is gonna generate a lot of hate threads so I wished to try to preempt them with something sensible. And second, I wished to try to simmer down all the hate aimed their way. I've squadded with a few of them from time to time and they don't cheat (as for all of the turbo controller BS I neither know nor really care) as is the popular consensus opinion for most people who get trampled by them. They have skilled up to massive extents, sure. They have specced specifically to suit their best playstyle, which only makes sense. They have teamwork and skill, of course. If the didn't, they'd be just as easy to trounce as the next group of blue dots. Instead of blaming them for cheating or using unfair tactics (as I'm sure the above tanks bonanza will inevitably draw out), remember that they have no advantage that you can't get. Sure, they are using really good tactics to pound people in public matches. But wouldn't you do the same if you had the opportunity? I know plenty of you use proto suits and nothing else in pub matches, I see all of you spawn campers and redline snipers and those of you railgun sniping with a tank from across the map. These are all tactics and many of them are down right despicable, but they are valid tactics. If the enemy is dumb enough to endlessly spawn on a camped position, they have it coming if someone camps that location. It's not honorable, but when your team is down 20-45 it might just be enough to turn the battle around. Now, I'm ready for xproto to dis me for telling him how to play, for ReGnUM to troll a bit, for the community to rage at me, to probably recieve no response from either Zitro, to hear G rant at me for calling his tank sucky, and to become a pariah for even suggesting this senseless mob let go of the hate they have lovingly nurtured for these people for so long. HAVE AT YOU!
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 01:01:00 - [2] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Poor choices? Like specializing into a certain class and playing smart. I don't understand but what I do understand is this player base is stupid and needs to be educated I was not trying to troll anyone, not referring to skill placement (if you read the whole post you'll notice I actually praise you guys for being really good at skilling up very precisely to accentuate and support your playstyles) merely pointing out that some of your guys make bad decisions from time to time, whether they be poorly worded forum posts that draw unnecessary hate or poor strategies in battle when overwhelmed (which typically only happens when you are the only decent players on your team and your blue dots end up getting you killed because your guys tried to fortify their defense rather than flanking or falling back). Also, in particular, the abrasive way many of your players take compliments and immediately try to think of them as insults which need to be fended off as if they have some hidden underlying meaning. I'll not get any further into this one since it's more of a personal issue that need not be addresses in a public forum.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 01:24:00 - [3] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: This is the dude that rage quitted the match as it was ending. accept your inevitable loss like a bawse dude. I don't think I need a rage quitting scrub to tell me how to play a game when I was obviously just trolling around the match with my 150k militia tank and laser rifle like a super space champion. If you have a problem with the way I play **** off home boy and stop raging quitting xDD Saw that coming a mile off. Thanks for not letting me down. Troll away, all I saw was an idiot running a laser rifle less than 10 feet from enemies. Wanna keep trolling with a LR at close range? Not my business, I'll be happy to take your money when you don't have 2 tanks covering your escape. Just trying to be friendly, but obviously you have too much ego clogging your ears to listen to someone you don't know. As for the "rage quitting", might want to talk to some of your corpmates about that. As I recall, not long ago one of them said that there is no shame in leaving a match you spawn into halfway through that is a loosing prospect. Not only that, I've seen you guys doing it in game personally. I tried to play it to see if it was worth attempting (I came in with around 30/30 clones, I forget who was ahead or by how much) but couldn't spawn in the clear after 5 tries and only had 7 kills, so I gave it up for a lost cause and quit wasting money. I easily could have stayed and ran free fits, but what would the point be? Play against a good team in a free fit when I can't even spawn in safely, or move on to the next match which hopefully is on a larger map and gives me a better chance of living long enough to see my surroundings before I start getting shot at. Hmmm... die pointlessly and repeatedly with no chance to fight back, or try again.... I wonder what is the SMART thing to do.... You can call it "rage quitting" or whatever else you like, couldn't care less. I call it playing it smart. Peace
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 01:27:00 - [4] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: No advantage? Because 100 mil ISK + Whatever they "exploited" from EvE, tons of officer gear, and a permanent standard LAV isn't an advantage at all. Several corps exploited the ISK transfer. Officer gear and permanent LAV have only just recently came into play so doesn't really count for anything before they dropped. Neither are legit arguments.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 01:29:00 - [5] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Overlord Ulath wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Poor choices? Like specializing into a certain class and playing smart. I don't understand but what I do understand is this player base is stupid and needs to be educated I was not trying to troll anyone, not referring to skill placement (if you read the whole post you'll notice I actually praise you guys for being really good at skilling up very precisely to accentuate and support your playstyles) merely pointing out that some of your guys make bad decisions from time to time, whether they be poorly worded forum posts that draw unnecessary hate or poor strategies in battle when overwhelmed (which typically only happens when you are the only decent players on your team and your blue dots end up getting you killed because your guys tried to fortify their defense rather than flanking or falling back). Also, in particular, the abrasive way many of your players take compliments and immediately try to think of them as insults which need to be fended off as if they have some hidden underlying meaning. I'll not get any further into this one since it's more of a personal issue that need not be addresses in a public forum. Thats your problem you write an essay and keep going on and on and on and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . IMPs make mistakes oh wait they are called imperfects so yeah... Might want to think that's one through Just proved my point. Peace
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 01:30:00 - [6] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Long story short playing smart is not playing IMPS? You really need to put a moral at the end of your stories TL;DR Fighting Smart Is Knowing When You Can't Spawn Safely.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 01:45:00 - [7] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Then why not just put that than a boring essay? Do I have to tell you about the player base again.... I can express a wider range of meaning by using more words. I'm not an eloquent speaker, but when typing I am able to express what I am trying to say and my meaning thoroughly using words. I could simplify it down to bite sized chunks for people who don't like to read much, but why? I express my views thoroughly for those willing to read them, and those who aren't willing to read don't see the full statement or understand the full context of what is being said and end up making asses of themselves. Which is not my concern.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 01:48:00 - [8] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Yep HMG is actually the only weapon I haven't got around to trying out so I gained some weight, and HowDidThatTaste has taught me the ways of the Heavy a few days ago. How are you liking the heavy? I've tooled around with it a few times, but it feels too situation for me to run it full time.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 02:11:00 - [9] - Quote G-SLicK wrote: i dont care it my tank sucks, i made that militia hunk of metal last night lol its my first tank ever im very proud of it Not trolling, it is a decent tank for a militia fit. I'll tell you what. If I see you pull it in a match with no other tanks in the field, I'll pull a militia tank as well and we'll have a good ole'fashioned tank battle. we'll move off to one side of the map and have it out, it'll be fun. I know how fun it is to fit up a really crap tank just to fool around with, I'd be happy to battle it out with you MLT tank vs MLT tank for S&G's
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 02:20:00 - [10] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Overlord Ulath wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Then why not just put that than a boring essay? Do I have to tell you about the player base again.... I can express a wider range of meaning by using more words. I'm not an eloquent speaker, but when typing I am able to express what I am trying to say and my meaning thoroughly using words. I could simplify it down to bite sized chunks for people who don't like to read much, but why? I express my views thoroughly for those willing to read them, and those who aren't willing to read don't see the full statement or understand the full context of what is being said and end up making asses of themselves. Which is not my concern. Ok I read this one and this is my translation I love words they're my friends. This is suppose to be a discussion not an essay competition, bet you love those The problem with your "translations" is that you take everything negative you can from a statement, compress it down to as short a statement you can, and leave any meaningful info by the wayside and your translations become less accurate than a Japaneese-to-English translation written by someone who knows neither language. A truer TL;DR would be: My words are for those with the will/brain power to read them. But that short little summary does not encompass the full range of the specifics in the statement.

Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 02:37:00 - [11] - Quote ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote: >: 0 TBH I KINDA ANGRY NO ONE MENTIONED ReGnUM I guess that being CLA$$Y and Sticking with the AR means nothing No worries ReGnUM, I wouldn't have dreamed of leaving you out. Overlord Ulath wrote: Now, I'm ready for xproto to dis me for telling him how to play, for ReGnUM to troll a bit, for the community to rage at me, to probably recieve no response from either Zitro, to hear G rant at me for calling his tank sucky, and to become a pariah for even suggesting this senseless mob let go of the hate they have lovingly nurtured for these people for so long. HAVE AT YOU! It's at the end, but I made sure you had a spot in there. Being CLA$$Y always counts bro
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 02:44:00 - [12] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Poor choices? Like specializing into a certain class and playing smart. I don't understand but what I do understand is this player base is stupid and needs to be educated Proof. That all Imperfects need to lighten the ** up. I mean seriously, everyone one of you in that corp is worse than that sentient archon dude, and he's a complete douchebag. I disagree with him politely and state why and all he does is rage and troll me with made-up bullshit (yeah, sentient, come at me with your "40,000 ISK" fit bro) and scream ** like "you are bad" while ignoring my key points and all of you are about 10X as bad as him. This guy was making a polite post and your first thought is to insult him? I say again: Proof. P.S. "I don't understand but I do understand..." is my new favorite sentence fragment. It's all good Logi Bro. They can be as crass as they wish, I'll keep it classy till the end. Whatever trauma they experienced that makes some of these people try to turn even the cleanest of compliments into an insult has harmed them enough. I need not dirty my hands dropping to the level of "i've killed you more in a fictitious universe, so you are less of a human than me and deserve no dignity" that so many of these people wallow in just to rebut senseless insults.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 02:45:00 - [13] - Quote ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote: Overlord Ulath wrote: ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote: >: 0 TBH I KINDA ANGRY NO ONE MENTIONED ReGnUM I guess that being CLA$$Y and Sticking with the AR means nothing No worries ReGnUM, I wouldn't have dreamed of leaving you out. Overlord Ulath wrote: Now, I'm ready for xproto to dis me for telling him how to play, for ReGnUM to troll a bit, for the community to rage at me, to probably recieve no response from either Zitro, to hear G rant at me for calling his tank sucky, and to become a pariah for even suggesting this senseless mob let go of the hate they have lovingly nurtured for these people for so long. HAVE AT YOU! It's at the end, but I made sure you had a spot in there. Being CLA$$Y always counts bro DAMN BRAHHH You win the forum war I just said TL;DR AND decided to troll It's all good ReGnUM. I've got mad respect for your skills. Even if I make a longwinded post, if your related to it you can be sure I'll add you to it.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 03:11:00 - [14] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Overlord Ulath wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Poor choices? Like specializing into a certain class and playing smart. I don't understand but what I do understand is this player base is stupid and needs to be educated Proof. That all Imperfects need to lighten the ** up. I mean seriously, everyone one of you in that corp is worse than that sentient archon dude, and he's a complete douchebag. I disagree with him politely and state why and all he does is rage and troll me with made-up bullshit (yeah, sentient, come at me with your "40,000 ISK" fit bro) and scream like "you are bad" while ignoring my key points and all of you are about 10X as bad as him. This guy was making a polite post and your first thought is to insult him? I say again: Proof. P.S. "I don't understand but I do understand..." is my new favorite sentence fragment. It's all good Logi Bro. They can be as crass as they wish, I'll keep it classy till the end. Whatever trauma they experienced that makes some of these people try to turn even the cleanest of compliments into an insult has harmed them enough. I need not dirty my hands dropping to the level of "i've killed you more in a fictitious universe, so you are less of a human than me and deserve no dignity" that so many of these people wallow in just to rebut senseless insults. Ok some nice posts in THIS thread BUT let's get real. Logibro makes some terrible ignorant trash posts in general and YOU make some terrible trashposts in general (like your posts with the high school math bits the other day where you posted 10 paragraphs, after claiming not to have read any of the thread, which just cemented everyone's impression that you don't know wtf you are talking about :D ). Please continue explaining to the Imperfects how they should be posting though. Beg your pardon, but I said Overlord Ulath wrote:** I skipped the majority of this trash. I can't bear to hear the "I'm paying more money than everyone else so I should always win" QQ. The MAJORITY. Not sure if you know that word, it is a big one, but it means basically "a large portion of". When I blast someone, it is because they made a stupid statement or their logic is faulty and needs to be corrected. Which is exactly what I did in that thread. I felt no need to even respond to your comment since it was a pointless side troll not even relevant to the post. AND, as you might note, I only became hostile towards individuals when directly confronted, never simplified other peoples comments into unrelated statements, nor did I say a single thing that could be misconstrued as "I'm better than you, so you have no valid points" which is most of what comes from the likes of you. Also, if it was a trashpost, why is it that no one was able to debunk my logic and math? Hmm? It was on topic, accurate, detailed, and entirely made clear what I was trying to say. Nice try though, care to try again? EDIT: I do suppose I laid into poor Ydubbs81 RND a little prematurely. He has my apologies, I was having a bad day.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 03:20:00 - [15] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: lol@videogamedrama ikr?
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 03:46:00 - [16] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Your math was off-topic and also indicated you don't understand dps issues in this game. Direct quotes from you "Spoken like someone who has no idea what he's talking about. Did my middle school level math confuse you poor fools? " "Numbers being meaningless. I feel sorry for every math teacher who has ever tried to teach you anything. ....if only I had your level of intellect." Trash posts, the thread was much worse off after you arrived. If you want to talk about Weapon DPS directly wait until Tiel's weapon spreadsheet is unlocked by the GM's again. Don't trash post and stay on topic when it is unlocked. The thread was about whether or not the AR's were still good now that the gap between them was reduced. The DPS/DPC/DPM/DPFF are definite factors in that. Care to tell me how my math was off topic? Either way, if you want to discuss this post further, try debunking it in the right thread instead of one that is unrelated. You seemed to go silent over there after the math fully dropped. I'd be happy to debate it in the correct thread. As for the insults, bad day and I had some time to throw some insults when confronted directly. Already explained that. Doesn't change the fact that the substance of the posts holds true and has yet to be proven wrong. Odd though that you bash for posts with insults in them when you make posts that are nothing but insults. Hypocritical much? Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Lol. You have 600 likes on the forum sucking up but can't manage to gear....get ******* good. Seriously your post was like a highlight of scrubby denial. Lastly, I appreciate your obsession with me and all that I say, but you might want to lay off a bit, it's getting a little creepy.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 03:49:00 - [17] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Overlord Ulath wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: lol@videogamedrama ikr? hey hey! The Internet is serious business! These guys are so easy to work up that I don't have to even be directly insulting. I can be COMPLIMENTARY and they get all pissy!
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 04:00:00 - [18] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Overlord Ulath wrote: The thread was about whether or not the AR's were still good now that the gap between them was reduced. The DPS/DPC/DPM/DPFF are definite factors in that. Care to tell me how my math was off topic? Either way, if you want to discuss this post further, try debunking it in the right thread instead of one that is unrelated. You seemed to go silent over there after the math fully dropped. I'd be happy to debate it in the correct thread. Just as you said, you hadn't read the thread. Anyway, you tried to keep it together in this thread but you failed. Get good? Yeah, go ahead and try to cop out. I already have my statement from that thread quoted. Read the OP and the first few pages. Then read what I wrote. Relevant. This?> Quote: You have 600 likes on the forum sucking up but can't manage to gear....get ******* good. Seriously your post was like a highlight of scrubby denial. Irrelevant. Like I said, have fun obsessing over me. If I catch you digging through my dumpster though, I'm calling the cops.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 04:28:00 - [19] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Overlord - do yourself the favor and stop arguing with Tel. He's the type you mentioned earlier who believes killing people in a game makes that person less then you. If you want to get him to listen to you you need to at least kill him 500 times. But he's SUCH an easy target to use to get my point across... I suppose you are right though. Tel, I free you from your tether. You are free to troll unharassed for a while. Perhaps if you one day see how ridiculous you sound and repent I'll give you props for your progress. My work here is done. Peace.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 05:01:00 - [20] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Cyn Bruin wrote: I'm sure you've all realised it, but just to clarify. Those Imperfect dudes will troll anything, doesnt matter if it's a compliment or an insult, we treat each the same way, always giving each other hell. I never take anything serious on here, don't know why anyone would. Thanks for the compliment Ulath, it's appreciated. preach it Of course. Gotta give credit where credit is due. I try to only troll the trolls though, so you guys happen to be a nice huge neon pink target at which to aim. Here's to many more months of bashing each other from across the aisle.

Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.03 22:35:00 - [21] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: Come on, 7 pages and no lock yet? Come on GM/Devs, do your thing... Lock for what? It's a very general post and no one is really getting out of hand. I say keep it up. Though I suppose I am semi biased since it's my own thread... Either way, it was fun to have a bunch of imps all chatting in one public place. Unfortunate that we're still missing Reaper and several others though. Once again though, your welcome to those of you who said thanks for the compliments. One last thing though. Sleepy, how are you liking rolling as a heavy? I never expected you to go that route. After sniping for so long I thought the speed crash would keep you away from heavy fits.
Overlord Ulath Doomheim 85	Posted - 2013.01.04 20:38:00 - [22] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: +1 for title reference to the emperor's new groove. Seriously you gave it a +1 for that? Its not even a good movie or anything. Must be pretty easy to get +1s. Perhaps it's a +1 for referencing the only movie that casts both David Spade and John Goodman together in leading roles. Either way, thanks for the +1.