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Marston EV
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.01.01 00:04:00 -
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and i LOVE IT!! i have about 145 of them left, so im not worrying about dying so much as testing right now. Just as a complete screw around class, i fitted four complex damage modifiers and used my proto laser rifle...... i believe i go the privilage of playing against the same betamax guys two matches in a row, and i think they hated me for it. At that point my laser rifle was pretty much a medium-long range sniper rifle, the only difference was that i have to be considerably closer then a sniper to kill people. Another drawback to the suit is that i only have about 400 EHP, but the whole point of it is to kill people before they start dealing damage.
I cant wait to start testing things out a little more, but so far im very happy with it. Of course i have my boring old 750 EHP proto suit, but im trying to stay away from that for now because i wanna see how far i can push this thing. My next plan is to fit the VK0 with four complex kenetic catalyzers and see how fast i can make it run, if all goes well you guys might see me running about as fast as an armor tank move in about a week. lol ill see you guys out there on the field! |
Vanda-Kon
Feast On Skulls
66
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Posted - 2013.01.01 00:06:00 -
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Ohhhh, you EVs! I don't know what I mean by that. I just like saying, EVs. |
S Park Finner
BetaMax.
89
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Posted - 2013.01.01 00:18:00 -
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Sounds like a fun suit!
For any module that has a stacking penalty the 4th one doesn't help much. Might want, for those things, to use the slot for something else. Multipliers are 1 times the bonus, 1.87, 2.44 and for the 4th one 2.72. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2013.01.01 03:09:00 -
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Remember that (AFAIK) the stacking penalty bug is still in effect (giving a bonus rather than a penalty) so don't get too attached to that dps level because it'll change by live launch. It'll still be high with that gear but I doubt you'll want to run 4 damage mods and even if you do the dps will be lower that what you're seeing now.
Glad you're enjoying the new unlocks
Cheers, Cross |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.01.01 03:35:00 -
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Shame the proto stuff is so ridiculously expensive, as that really ruins any motivation to work towards using it. Cause I would have so much fun trying out all kinds of different combos with damage mods, shields, shield rechargers, being able to run faster etc etc... but it just isn't worth the massive loss of ISK/AUR due to the plethora of so many ways to die instantly in ridiculous ways (and a lot of them not being the players fault at all).
IMO that is this games biggest drawback. As there really isn't much motivation to work towards getting something neat if losing it a few times bankrupts the player. For such little reward there is far too much punishment.
I really hope CCP adjusts the payouts of the game to make using expensive gear much less of a bittersweet experience. |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
261
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Posted - 2013.01.01 04:24:00 -
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martson I bet you love the AR nerf eh? I has to switch to lasaaaaaaaaaaaaarsssssssss they're fun but I just want my camera back tbqh |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.01 04:51:00 -
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Zaku IIMarston EV wrote:and i LOVE IT!! i have about 145 of them left, so im not worrying about dying so much as testing right now. Just as a complete screw around class, i fitted four complex damage modifiers and used my proto laser rifle...... i believe i go the privilage of playing against the same betamax guys two matches in a row, and i think they hated me for it. At that point my laser rifle was pretty much a medium-long range sniper rifle, the only difference was that i have to be considerably closer then a sniper to kill people. Another drawback to the suit is that i only have about 400 EHP, but the whole point of it is to kill people before they start dealing damage.
I cant wait to start testing things out a little more, but so far im very happy with it. Of course i have my boring old 750 EHP proto suit, but im trying to stay away from that for now because i wanna see how far i can push this thing. My next plan is to fit the VK0 with four complex kenetic catalyzers and see how fast i can make it run, if all goes well you guys might see me running about as fast as an armor tank move in about a week. lol ill see you guys out there on the field! Whenever i picture a proto logi and the one red eye i always seem to come back to the Zaku II |
Draco Dustflier
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2013.01.01 08:33:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:martson I bet you love the AR nerf eh? I has to switch to lasaaaaaaaaaaaaarsssssssss they're fun but I just want my camera back tbqh lasers are absolute beasts on the fishbowl. went 15-1 with a quintakill while it was heated. might have been a glitch, but i believe that the damage relies on how high the heat bar next to the ammo is and not how long you've been firing it, so you can burstfire while the bar is halfway full and still do major damage. i still use ar's more. |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
88
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Posted - 2013.01.01 09:52:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Shame the proto stuff is so ridiculously expensive, as that really ruins any motivation to work towards using it. Cause I would have so much fun trying out all kinds of different combos with damage mods, shields, shield rechargers, being able to run faster etc etc... but it just isn't worth the massive loss of ISK/AUR due to the plethora of so many ways to die instantly in ridiculous ways (and a lot of them not being the players fault at all).
IMO that is this games biggest drawback. As there really isn't much motivation to work towards getting something neat if losing it a few times bankrupts the player. For such little reward there is far too much punishment.
I really hope CCP adjusts the payouts of the game to make using expensive gear much less of a bittersweet experience.
we need to see how the economy will work with EvE, contracts and FW before we can really judge costs; not just income matters, but also importance of specific matches when deciding what gear to use when. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.01 12:35:00 -
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You bought 145 of them? That's a lot of cake |
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2013.01.01 12:39:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:You bought 145 of them? That's a lot of cake You can get them from salvage.
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Stinker Butt
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.01.01 16:06:00 -
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S Park Finner wrote:For any module that has a stacking penalty the 4th one doesn't help much. Might want, for those things, to use the slot for something else. Multipliers are 1 times the bonus, 1.87, 2.44 and for the 4th one 2.72.
Thank you. I've been wondering about this.
I'm not sure that I'm following your math correctly though. the multiplier is increasing with more mods?
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Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
91
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Posted - 2013.01.01 19:20:00 -
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ill have my proto this week hopefully |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.01 21:37:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:You bought 145 of them? That's a lot of cake You can get them from salvage.
Not the ones with 4 high power slots |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2013.01.01 21:38:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:You bought 145 of them? That's a lot of cake You can get them from salvage. Not the ones with 4 high power slots Logi vk.0? I have 30 and haven't bought any.
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Marston EV
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2013.01.03 00:43:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:martson I bet you love the AR nerf eh? I has to switch to lasaaaaaaaaaaaaarsssssssss they're fun but I just want my camera back tbqh
i love killing you with my lazersss, jkjk, idk AR's can still screw me over if there doing it right, the burst rifle still has its camera scope to btw |
Marston EV
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2013.01.03 00:47:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:You bought 145 of them? That's a lot of cake
i had 30 vk0's, but zero vk1's. So about a week before hand when i knew i was going to get them i started saving up and buying packs of 25. its not that much as one pack of 25 only costs roughly 2 million, but i guess it was kinda of expensive. dying can get annoying but my k/d is 5 to 1 so its not so bad, 145 should last me another couple weeks hopefully (assuming i limit myself to dying no more then once a match), which means if i can do that, then i will be making profit :) |
Marston EV
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2013.01.03 00:49:00 -
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Draco Dustflier wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:martson I bet you love the AR nerf eh? I has to switch to lasaaaaaaaaaaaaarsssssssss they're fun but I just want my camera back tbqh lasers are absolute beasts on the fishbowl. went 15-1 with a quintakill while it was heated. might have been a glitch, but i believe that the damage relies on how high the heat bar next to the ammo is and not how long you've been firing it, so you can burstfire while the bar is halfway full and still do major damage. i still use ar's more.
the amount of damage my proto lazer does with four complex damage modifiers kind of erases the "heat up time" that ive had to deal with before. it starts off at doing roughly 30 damage a shot, after one second its doing 60 damage a shot...... lol the only drawback to so much damage is that im really squishy |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2013.01.03 01:40:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Shame the proto stuff is so ridiculously expensive, as that really ruins any motivation to work towards using it. Cause I would have so much fun trying out all kinds of different combos with damage mods, shields, shield rechargers, being able to run faster etc etc... but it just isn't worth the massive loss of ISK/AUR due to the plethora of so many ways to die instantly in ridiculous ways (and a lot of them not being the players fault at all).
IMO that is this games biggest drawback. As there really isn't much motivation to work towards getting something neat if losing it a few times bankrupts the player. For such little reward there is far too much punishment.
I really hope CCP adjusts the payouts of the game to make using expensive gear much less of a bittersweet experience.
I'm considering the genuine possibility that you have never said anything positive about this game. |
S Park Finner
BetaMax.
89
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Posted - 2013.01.03 02:07:00 -
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Stinker Butt wrote:S Park Finner wrote:For any module that has a stacking penalty the 4th one doesn't help much. Might want, for those things, to use the slot for something else. Multipliers are 1 times the bonus, 1.87, 2.44 and for the 4th one 2.72. Thank you. I've been wondering about this. I'm not sure that I'm following your math correctly though. the multiplier is increasing with more mods? Just saw your note. Sorry not to respond sooner.
Example: If the "bonus" of a module is, say, 10% and the penalty works as designed then... 1 module gives you 1.100 times the base value of the thing being enhanced. 2 modules give you 1.187 times 3 modules give you 1.244 times 4 modules give you 1.272 times
Which is why, in EVE, most folks think burning the 4th slot for only a .028 additional gain isn't worth it.
All this depends, of course, on the formula in DUST 514 being the same as the one in EVE. Referene: EVEWiki Stacking Penalty Page |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.03 02:12:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Ohhhh, you EVs! I don't know what I mean by that. I just like saying, EVs.
EV's dead for all intents and purposes right now.
They are trying to make a comeback under new leadership but i don't think it's going anywhere, the whole idea was flawed to start with. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2013.01.03 03:01:00 -
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I am going to enjoy killing EV with my militia suit armed with an exile rifle. |
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