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TECH TROOP
WarRavens
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Posted - 2012.12.30 02:44:00 -
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I want to know what HAV is the best to start with,what skills to upgrade,and what turrets to equip.Any tips will also be appreciated. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
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Posted - 2012.12.31 13:29:00 -
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What faction or Race is your clone? Caldari, Gallente ...? Everyone seems to prefer the Gunlogi since its a shield tank. Dont bother buying a Soma or a Sica (Total waste of isk),. I guess its only good for learning the map or the driving controls. |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.02 00:12:00 -
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First pick shield or armour. I would advise against armour first, it needs more skills you wouldn't otherwise already have from running as infantry. Its also much less forgiving in terms of how slow turning and the speed is. It is cheaper ISK-wise however.
Pick a role such as anti vehicle/installation or anti infantry. If your anti infantry go blasters, if your anti vehicle go with rail. Its probably easier to not pick a fight with a tank until you've gotten the hang of being under fire and surviving though.
Skill wise I'd recommend electronics, power grid and mechanics at 5. All are *1 so cheap enough. You'll also need the appropriate turret and HAV skills (though you can do without for the Sica). Next you need shield or armour skills. Finally you'll need to work on the rest of the fitting skills. (I'm not naming them here due to being away from PS3, look through the skills and you should see them).
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Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.02 00:15:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:What faction or Race is your clone? Caldari, Gallente ...? Everyone seems to prefer the Gunlogi since its a shield tank. Dont bother buying a Soma or a Sica (Total waste of isk),. I guess its only good for learning the map or the driving controls.
I'd agree regarding Soma, however a Sica with great skills isn't too far from a Gunloggi. Your loosing 1 slot which is probably a hardner, but the cost difference can be significant.
Militia tanks are also the best to learn the ropes unless you have ISK to burn. Just expect to die. Part of the learning curve. |
bluenzo1
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.01.02 02:38:00 -
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Guns vs Missiles. I hear missiles got a nerf, do they suck now or what? Missile Range vs blasters, splash damage etc etc... |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.04 08:30:00 -
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missles are worthless now go hybrid turrets, bust out a blaster for AI and a rail for AV. And if your in a game against me best not to pull it out |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:27:00 -
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Sica fitting:
Sica
Large rail or blaster 2 small turrets left unchanged (cost reasons)
Large shield extender 1 Large shield booster 1 Shield hardner (30% module preferable)
1 Militia power diagnostic unit BPO 1 Militia power grid expansion unit BPO
Caveat, I have good shield, armour and excellent fitting skills. Lower SP players may need to upgrade from basic large shield mods to lower the fitting costs. This will significantly increase the total ISK cost. This fitting costs between 303k to 317k depending on large rail or blaster fit. Expect to get blown up by rail or any non-militia HAVs and any dedicated AV infantry. You can still operate with casual AVers on the field with good driving skills.
This fit with my skills has 4418 shield and 962 armour. Not too shabby for the cost. If your going to start spending double the ISK of the hull, you should be moving up to Gunloggi.
Edit: corrected low mods. |
bluenzo1
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.01.10 05:03:00 -
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slap26 wrote:missles are worthless now go hybrid turrets, bust out a blaster for AI and a rail for AV. And if your in a game against me best not to pull it out
Rail for anti-vehicle, why not use blasters? |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.10 22:44:00 -
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bluenzo1 wrote:slap26 wrote:missles are worthless now go hybrid turrets, bust out a blaster for AI and a rail for AV. And if your in a game against me best not to pull it out Rail for anti-vehicle, why not use blasters?
Alpha damage versus trickle damage. The latter is easier to activate reps and hardners. Catching a HAV cold with rail's is often difficult to come back from. Range is the other advantage rail has over blaster. |
Whispercrow
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.11 03:44:00 -
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Why are rockets 'useless' now? Is it because of the limited flight time and thus range, or are they nerfed in some other terrible fashion now? |
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Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.11 04:38:00 -
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Whispercrow wrote:Why are rockets 'useless' now? Is it because of the limited flight time and thus range, or are they nerfed in some other terrible fashion now?
Reduced splash damage and range. The real problem is the random missile spread. An unreliable weapon is a useless weapon. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:59:00 -
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The blasters are actually the best for every situation other than when range is needed, the rail's alpha can't compare to sheer destructive power |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
114
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Posted - 2013.01.11 16:51:00 -
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bluenzo1 wrote:slap26 wrote:missles are worthless now go hybrid turrets, bust out a blaster for AI and a rail for AV. And if your in a game against me best not to pull it out Rail for anti-vehicle, why not use blasters?
Because he's not a moron. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.01.11 16:52:00 -
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As i see it, theres a numbers game going on.
Everyone can field swarm launchers
some can field forge guns
swarm launchers do well v armor forges do well v shields
numerically better to be in shields |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
114
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Posted - 2013.01.11 17:15:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:As i see it, theres a numbers game going on.
Everyone can field swarm launchers
some can field forge guns
swarm launchers do well v armor forges do well v shields
numerically better to be in shields
There's militia forge gun now, so everyone can be that too ;). I still go w/shield tank tho. AV tanks ftw. |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:32:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:As i see it, theres a numbers game going on.
Everyone can field swarm launchers
some can field forge guns
swarm launchers do well v armor forges do well v shields
numerically better to be in shields
While armour tanks take reduced damage from forges, they are still just as effective in my book as armour tanks will take time to get in cover. |
xXDust BunnyXx
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.14 01:57:00 -
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You also have to think about armor bleed, this has been a prob from the get go. With an armor tank your able to rep your armor before it simply bleeds out on its own and you die, with shields if your armor starts to bleed.......well its over. +1 DestrukterDust's post in feedback/requests on stopping armor bleed!!! |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:35:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:As i see it, theres a numbers game going on.
Everyone can field swarm launchers
some can field forge guns
swarm launchers do well v armor forges do well v shields
numerically better to be in shields There's militia forge gun now, so everyone can be that too ;). I still go w/shield tank tho. AV tanks ftw.
True but you need a heavy suit to use it and not everyone has them
eDIT: also all tanks are useful if you choose the right one for the right situation. The milita tanks are really quite cheep and are perfect for support. Put a clone bay on a soma and your a objective taking machine!! |
Geth Massredux
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.14 16:06:00 -
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With my gunnlogi tank I can take at least 4-5 hits with forge gun hits, or with somebody throwing av-nades at my tank it gets annoying. But if your going on with gunlogi invest in stronger shield. And shield resistance modules. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:39:00 -
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Sytonis Auran wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:As i see it, theres a numbers game going on.
Everyone can field swarm launchers
some can field forge guns
swarm launchers do well v armor forges do well v shields
numerically better to be in shields While armour tanks take reduced damage from forges, they are still just as effective in my book as armour tanks will take time to get in cover.
Armor DO NOT get reduced damage from forges. Forge guns are a hybrid weapon and deal the same damage to armor and shield. |
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