Telcontar Dunedain wrote:I guess you can pat yourself on the back for how great this game is going to be with flat gear?
Here's the other side -
I killed a decent gun the other day like 3-4x times in his proto suit with a militia shotgun.
Some of you think that's worth bragging over but I think it's pretty much trash.
I'm killing a dude and I have no points whatsoever in shotguns but its just lololol on my side.
He was willing to risk something in fighting me and my squad. He GEARED to fight us. He was using the weapon he'd skilled up in.
People in militia gear and BPO assault rifles are risking nothing.
They can just keep respawning and zerging because it doesn't matter.
If you think about the implications in this for Lowsec and Nullsec it's pretty ugly.
There needs to be HARD gear checks for participating in those fights (I'd like the rewards reduced in hisec so that proto is not economical for people when there is lowsec to fight in).
I don't want to fight people that can't be bothered to RISK anything or PREPARE (ie get the SP together to get fitted in the first place).
My corp is prepared and ready to risk, are you?
I'll try and counter your argument.
- The guy you killed with a shotgun. That's not a militia vs proto argument. That's a gun balance argument. I'd say the shotty, particularly the militia shotty is a little OP. That aside, if you killed someone with a shotty, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. (either you lucky or good enough to get near him OR he was bad enough to allow you near him) Shotties are not effective at longer ranges.
-You say militia can zerg. Good for them, if it's so effective, you can slap on your militia gear and do it too. If you CHOOSE to risk isk for the advantage of using proto gear, that's your choice.
The reality is, right now, if corp A is better than corp B, and corp A uses proto gear than corp B, Corp A will win. Pretty easily. If Corp A is better, but Corp B uses better gear, Corp A still has a chance to win... meaning SKILL plays a role in Dust. (which is a FPS, in case you forgot) Either way, Corp A wins.
In prior builds, this was not the case. The team with more play time and/or money, won. (unless the "poor" team had MUCH higher skill) To say that this has something to do with risk is rediculous.
In prior builds, fits mattered A LOT more. Unless skill of players was very uneven, the team with better fits almost always won. You spend more money, you're almost GUARANTEED a win.
Where exactly is the risk in that?NOW, the gear still plays a considerable role, but SKILL matters as much if not more. My $.02
Edit: PS. Regarding the game being flat. I love how those who make your argument use absolutes. The game will not have flat gear. There is STILL a difference in damage AND accuracy AND capacity AND recharge times AND range, etc etc. Add to that, the fact that proto suits, allow you more cpu and pg, and allow you to add modules to tank SEVERAL HUNDRED more HP than opponents using militia gear. Yeah, seems pretty flat to me.
