Jaiden Longshot wrote:
Though, I can't say that I've ever seen a member of RND not using an ISK GEK or the Killswitch in any game I've been in so I'm not sure what the issue is for you YDUBBS? You do just fine from a KDR perspective and if you're losing too much ISK because of it then you might want to re-evaluate the cost of your fits versus the ISK reward.
One thing that I haven't seen mentioned is that we are currently being rewarded for losing. That will not be the case, per CCP, once you start picking up player issued contracts. Just like how it is for beta corp battles. So, playing with house money when it counts isn't really going to be an option unless you are just testing your abilities as a corp to operate in lower gear variants.
Look at it like this:
Imperfects put up a 20mil ISK contract that PFBHz picks up. The reward would currently be approx 39mil ISK (subtracting the contract fee). If Imperfects fit STD gear and PFBHz fits all proto and PFBHz wins.....Imperfects are, in fact, out that $20mil and whatever it cost to replace your gear. You go home with no ISK and minus a bunch of gear. To me that seems like a pretty good reason to not show up in STD gear.
To Telc:
I'm with you though....I despise the fact that I don't feel like it's worth using my shiny stuff. The real issue is that during beta we just don't have anything to really play for other than the ISK, SP grind (that, by the way, will be repeated), and refining tactics.
Good Discussion with valid arguments on both sides. "Please sir, may I have more"
This is the thing and it goes straight to something that I've said before and the ideology of the game. I only use my adv or gear or weapons for two reasons. They are when I deem it necessary or if I'm testing out a new suit configuration. If I'm playing against all NPC corp members, then I use militia/STD gear because I figure that my adv gear will not be necessary and therefore I do not have to risk losing that ISK.
The reason why you may have seen myself using adv guns is because maybe you're in a corp that won't easily be put down. So, if I notice that the Imps, PFBHz, Zion, Seraphim, STB, etc are on the other side then I'm going to bring out the gear that I feel is needed to match it. I could cry that they are all using duvolles OR I can go and drop my militia guns and bring out my duvolle.
And that's the point....players need to get out of militia gear if they want to compete. Don't bring the guns closer together and make the GEK, typically, useless. The players should level up and get gear to match. It takes less than two weeks to be able to use a duvolle and type II suit. And you can tango with someone in an ADV suit with a type II if you are competent. The only issue may be is if they're going up against a proto suit. And honestly, the only group of people that I see using proto suits and gear in every match are the Imps. So, if you run into a match with them, here and there, so be it. But don't bring all of the guns together.
Also, we don't have no more than 5 guys with killswitches/duvolles and only 3 of us out of the entire corp has PROTO suits. And, only one of uses adv level gear in all of the games that he's in. Many of us use militia and STD gear in some of the matches where miltia fits are really all that are necessary.