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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
428
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Posted - 2012.12.28 21:34:00 -
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Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Before you go witchunting on LAVs, how sure are you that it was the Baloch? Methana and Baloch look exactly the same. Also I attach turbines to my Methana so it goes pretty fast and I've run over numerous people. People use the baloch all the time, doesnt matter either way shouldnt be for free. Should still be at the very least some minimum effort in purchasing it, even dirt cheap, on market so stocks remain up and not perma-up
I won't deny the overuse of Balochs. It does sicken me. How about a limited use BPO?
Not a BPC, but rather you are given an allowance of Balochs per game, maybe like 3-5.
Also are Onikumas also free? I'm Gallente and so are most people, but do Caldari get Onikumas? |
Moonracer2000
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
311
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Posted - 2012.12.28 23:25:00 -
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I kind of agree that they are a little ridiculous as a free item. What if new characters get 30 free LAVs (that can't be sold or traded) instead of the starter BPO. This allows players to use them a couple times when adjusting to the game and trying things out but after a while you have to buy more. |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2012.12.28 23:41:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Before you go witchunting on LAVs, how sure are you that it was the Baloch? Methana and Baloch look exactly the same. Also I attach turbines to my Methana so it goes pretty fast and I've run over numerous people. People use the baloch all the time, doesnt matter either way shouldnt be for free. Should still be at the very least some minimum effort in purchasing it, even dirt cheap, on market so stocks remain up and not perma-up I won't deny the overuse of Balochs. It does sicken me. How about a limited use BPO? Not a BPC, but rather you are given an allowance of Balochs per game, maybe like 3-5. Also are Onikumas also free? I'm Gallente and so are most people, but do Caldari get Onikumas?
Caldari and Amarr both get Onikumas. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1899
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Posted - 2012.12.29 01:10:00 -
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Then LAVs need a buff |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:36:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Crm234 wrote:When snipers are controlled i might agree with you. Two nights ago I had to drop the free vehicle that I hate the controls just to leave the default spawn point in skirmish. From the minute I spawned it was just sniper fire at me, the maps are to poorly designed to take them out now. Understandable. But seriously do we need 5 LAVs on the field? Most LAV drivers never even wait for anyone to get in the them. They just drive away solo. We need a price tag on these things to deter people from constantly spawning these LAVs on the field. When you put 5 LAVs on the field and I try to field a drop ship or tank and it gets denied because the vehicle cap is reached, thats BS. They do need a cost.... As far as what Kain said.Im not being an ass Kain but people still run people over in BF3 with 4 wheelers.(single person vehicle)
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:38:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Yes. I know! I am bringing up something that has already been discussed but free LAVs really need to go.
I have seen it being a trend now. People just call in LAVs because its free and drive around trying to run people over without being really usefull. They never try to cap objectives. ALways on the run from swarms and forges.
And whats more when you try to call in your tanks, you cant because the field is full of clowns running around in their LAVs.
Just my 0.02 NOTATROLLPOST Agreed the free one ...plus 1. Although they are coming out with that plasma cannon and that could be alot of points....nah its gay that there are free LAVS |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2012.12.29 10:42:00 -
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Free LAVs means I always have an abundance of things to shoot with a forge gun.
Nothing more satisfying than a vehicle kill that spams three +50 kill notices in rapid succession. |
Sergeant Wiznowski
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
38
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Posted - 2012.12.29 11:20:00 -
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Why so much hate against vehicles ? What's the difference if you will be run over by free LAV or a paid one. It still makes you a bump if not prepared.
Yes to free transportation. |
Wako 75
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
76
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Posted - 2012.12.29 11:37:00 -
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proxy chat would be so funny but would also like kill chat after you kill someone in a tank or something ive wanted to hear some of my kills |
Stinker Butt
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2012.12.29 13:52:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:just make them cost 750-1,000 isk or so. they're Milita so buying them in bulk should't cost much. And besides, it is quicker to kill a heavy inside a LAV than it is in a fire fight.
IMO the Saga BPO's need to go.
Saga bpo's are no longer free to use. You need to equip a small turret, so minimum of 6k. Still not much, but I feel like they're used less. They will not be so common when the game actually releases and thousands of new players join. |
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arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
186
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Posted - 2012.12.29 15:56:00 -
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I'm all for the starter fit LAV's to disappear overcoming the limitations of your suit should cost something.
The angel saga's are different they were a reward that was earned there's only what 8 of them out there right, or am I mistaken? |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.12.29 17:18:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I think we need to have some sort of free vehicle for folks to get around in, but maybe a single seater bike/atv that doesn't add to the vehicle cap instead? This would make more sense. Hitting the vehicle cap because 5 LAVs are lying stacked next to each other is just bad thought process.
You have a problem with my LAV dealership? They come in gray, green, silver, gold, and now red! 0% APR for a limited time. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2012.12.29 21:15:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I think we need to have some sort of free vehicle for folks to get around in, but maybe a single seater bike/atv that doesn't add to the vehicle cap instead? This would make more sense. Hitting the vehicle cap because 5 LAVs are lying stacked next to each other is just bad thought process. You have a problem with my LAV dealership? They come in gray, green, silver, gold, and now red! 0% APR for a limited time.
But i dont want the ones in the lot. I want the one you're driving.
Get out my ride or im blowing it, and you, up. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:26:00 -
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Yep, they need to cost something LAVs driving around playing carmageddon get on my nerves, moment one runs me over I pull out a tank and start destroying them, although it is fun to shoot the gunners off LAVs as they drive past. |
Silax Minour
Doomheim
29
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Posted - 2012.12.30 02:38:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Dont get rid of the lavs until dropship pilots recieve points for transporting people. No free lavs plus points for pilots should help foster teamwork to get around the map.
^^^ THIS!!! |
Go Away Putz
Doomheim
11
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Posted - 2012.12.30 04:41:00 -
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Stinker Butt wrote:Saga bpo's are no longer free to use. You need to equip a small turret, so minimum of 6k. Still not much, but I feel like they're used less. They will not be so common when the game actually releases and thousands of new players join. Okay, this is about the initial layout in the Saga, which comes without turrets, got it I think. I didn't realize that. I thought every vehicle came with an initial Fit which includes turrets. Straighten me out here, 'O Stinker Butt.
I have about five different LAV Fits: rail guns, blasters or missiles mixed with variable turbines (which has an automatic transmission for an icon), damage modifiers and automatic armor repair. It is a shame to leave one behind and watch some derp take off in it, never realizing what they have since they are just Oni and Bal based. As Caldarian I expect a Saga is in my future.
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Go Away Putz
Doomheim
11
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Posted - 2012.12.30 04:46:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:just make them cost 750-1,000 isk or so. they're Milita so buying them in bulk should't cost much. And besides, it is quicker to kill a heavy inside a LAV than it is in a fire fight.
IMO the Saga BPO's need to go. Sagas cost btw. And quite a bit more the 1K. Do you mean the two free Militia spec LAVs. You get issued a free one of either Baloch or Onikuma. Or does some other race get a Saga, cause as a Caldari that would be quite irritating.
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ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:21:00 -
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Go Away Putz wrote:ugg reset wrote:just make them cost 750-1,000 isk or so. they're Milita so buying them in bulk should't cost much. And besides, it is quicker to kill a heavy inside a LAV than it is in a fire fight.
IMO the Saga BPO's need to go. Sagas cost btw. And quite a bit more the 1K. Do you mean the two free Militia spec LAVs. You get issued a free one of either Baloch or Onikuma. Or does some other race get a Saga, cause as a Caldari that would be quite irritating.
the Guristia* Saga (the gold one) is a BPO.
Granted that all militia LAVs are the real world equivalent of a Prius pack with TNT. the standard level LAV (methana and Saga) are the same minus the TNT. |
Stinker Butt
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:53:00 -
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Free lavs are junk. They're easy kills, so I vote to keep them. I don't think it's fair to remove them before you have vehicle locks. Why pay for something so easily taken from you?
As far as crowd control, that should be per type of vehicle and map size. That 5 point map that got removed a while back for lag issues could easily hold 5 lavs. But 3 tanks on a 3 point map is also too many. And number of lavs shouldn't effect number of tanks, dropships, etc... and vice versa. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:59:00 -
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what they're still free? |
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ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.02 19:10:00 -
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Stinker Butt wrote:Free lavs are junk. They're easy kills, so I vote to keep them. I don't think it's fair to remove them before you have vehicle locks. Why pay for something so easily taken from you?
As far as crowd control, that should be per type of vehicle and map size. That 5 point map that got removed a while back for lag issues could easily hold 5 lavs. But 3 tanks on a 3 point map is also too many. And number of lavs shouldn't effect number of tanks, dropships, etc... and vice versa.
I disagree with the vehicle locks and the vehicle cap due to map size. If CCP wants to do infantry only map thats fine by me but limiting the amount of vehicles for the sake a fairness takes away form those of us who enjoy and have put stock in that part of the game. Show me three high end tanks vrs three high end Forge gun/swarm users with a fair amount of distance. A tank is just a slow painted target without infantry support.
As for vehicle locks I don't mind blue dots getting in or if they drive my ride. I'm serious, esp in high end LAV's it's not uncommon for the ride to outlast the owner. just give my character priority to the dam wheel when I'm in it! |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
428
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Posted - 2013.01.02 19:24:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Yes. I know! I am bringing up something that has already been discussed Then why discuss it? Why not use an already existent thread?
A Smart Guy wrote: I disagree with the vehicle locks and the vehicle cap due to map size. If CCP wants to do infantry only map thats fine by me but limiting the amount of vehicles for the sake a fairness takes away form those of us who enjoy and have put stock in that part of the game. Show me three high end tanks vrs three high end Forge gun/swarm users with a fair amount of distance. A tank is just a slow painted target without infantry support.
As for vehicle locks I don't mind blue dots getting in or if they drive my ride. I'm serious, esp in high end LAV's it's not uncommon for the ride to outlast the owner. just give my character priority to the dam wheel when I'm in it!
Yes. My 180 K Methana should not be mistaken for a free ride nor a Militia vehicle! It has variable vane turbines and active mods, but they drive it like the piece of junk free ones.
We need an easily distinguishable difference between appearances of Militia vehicles and Standard and beyond. Because fools don't know how to use Tac-Net still. |
Stinker Butt
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.01.02 20:09:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:Stinker Butt wrote:Free lavs are junk. They're easy kills, so I vote to keep them. I don't think it's fair to remove them before you have vehicle locks. Why pay for something so easily taken from you?
As far as crowd control, that should be per type of vehicle and map size. That 5 point map that got removed a while back for lag issues could easily hold 5 lavs. But 3 tanks on a 3 point map is also too many. And number of lavs shouldn't effect number of tanks, dropships, etc... and vice versa. I disagree with the vehicle locks and the vehicle cap due to map size. If CCP wants to do infantry only map thats fine by me but limiting the amount of vehicles for the sake a fairness takes away form those of us who enjoy and have put stock in that part of the game. Show me three high end tanks vrs three high end Forge gun/swarm users with a fair amount of distance. A tank is just a slow painted target without infantry support. As for vehicle locks I don't mind blue dots getting in or if they drive my ride. I'm serious, esp in high end LAV's it's not uncommon for the ride to outlast the owner. just give my character priority to the dam wheel when I'm in it!
Just to clarify, I didn't say for the sake of fairness, but for crowd control. That seemed to be the major complaint. And I don't mean to suggest my own limits, because personally I don't care.
If I'm paying for the lav, I should be the driver. If I'm not, I don't care who drives.
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Stinker Butt
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.01.02 20:21:00 -
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CCP should allow self destruct modules and then I can let you know if I approve of you driving my lav. |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
91
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Posted - 2013.01.02 20:27:00 -
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The free LAVs are easy to counter with AV grenades, AV weapons, HMGs, mass drivers, etc so there's no harming in keeping things as is. I especially feel this way I have a few pay for LAVs for special situations and it's kind of irritating that even when my pay for LAVs don't get destroyed during match, I still lose them. |
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