I hate the idea of having to buy ammo to use a gun, it seems like it would make things pointlessly tedious. I would however like to have a variety of optional exotic ammo types to equip and use though. There a way to have it both ways.
When reading this, keep in mind gun customization is coming soon. Anyway, this is how it should work.

All guns should come pre-fitted with a FREE basic ammo pack, much like how like how a vehicle comes with free turrets already equipped. This means if you don't care about ammo types and all that, and you just want your gun to work, then you don't have to have to buy ammo.

When a gun (and the rest of the fitting) is destroyed in battle, so is the ammo pack as well. If the fitting is not destroyed, then the ammo pack should stay, even if all the shots are depleted (since nanites can just replenish them).

Non-basic ammo packs should have to be purchased, and fitted into the gun in place of the basic ammo pack.

Purchasable non-basic ammo packs could include, but not limited: anti-shield rounds, anti-armor rounds, extra range rounds, faster swarm launcher missiles, incendiary mass driver rounds to light things on fire, stasis webifier mass driver rounds to slow enemies.

Thanks for reading.

Pointlessly tedious? Not really.
Explain how it would be so tedious to customize your weapon with ammo or use infinitely free militia ammo.

I hate the idea of having to buy ammo just to use a gun, it seems like it would make things pointlessly tedious. I would however like to have a variety of optional exotic ammo types to equip and use though. There a way to have it both ways.
When reading this, keep in mind gun customization is coming soon. Anyway, this is how it should work.

All guns should come pre-fitted with a FREE basic ammo pack, much like how like how a vehicle comes with free turrets already equipped. This means if you don't care about ammo types and all that, and you just want your gun to work, then you don't have to have to buy ammo.

When a gun (and the rest of the fitting) is destroyed in battle, so is the ammo pack as well. If the fitting is not destroyed, then the ammo pack should stay, even if all the shots are depleted (since nanites can just replenish them).

Non-basic ammo packs should have to be purchased, and fitted into the gun in place of the basic ammo pack.

Purchasable non-basic ammo packs could include, but not limited: anti-shield rounds, anti-armor rounds, extra range rounds, faster swarm launcher missiles, incendiary mass driver rounds to light things on fire, stasis webifier mass driver rounds to slow enemies.

Thanks for reading.

A suggestion

because you are able to make a multitude of different fits make fits for your situation.. with different ammo types, its not like you have a cargohold its similar to switching to a rpg for clearing out tanks or dropships, Just label your fittings EM, Kinetic, etc etc. for ammo types.. This should direct yourself in a better fashion.

Please read the full post before commenting.

I did, and your idea is quite different to what I imagine ammo being.
Ammo packs? Ammo regeneration? I think for not. That would turn it into basically a module.

LOL only 41? I think that might be plenty sufficient .. even re editing fits as your skills get higher.



Problem you run into latter or will is that you have a max number of fittings that can be saved. I think someone did 41 and couldn't save anymore. Now, what could fix that is if you could at some point import and export those fits to your hard drive since right now all of that is saved server side. Since it is doable on EVE it could be doable on here. Though might not be the easiest since EVE fitter is coded for that sort of thing.

Okay im normally for more variety in a game but honestly i have to say no on this. Mainly because it would allow certain classes like Assault AR's to be effective against every enemy type they encounter. Now granted it could be cool yes in the sense that if any class can do it great, but even then all it will do is encourage more lone wolf behavior and more to the point will drive the player base back to using rifles and only rifles, especially if you could have different ammo types in a single fitting.

As it is each weapon has a strength or weakness against a particular HP protection. This creates complimentary combinations when squads act as a unit, also weakness in one weapon can often be complimented by a grenade that makes up for it.

I just feel like this type of system will drive more Mass Effect like Soldier builds where you have a single soldier able to handle each and every threat on his own without the need of squad/teammates.

Im skeptical of its implementation, also because imagine a LR with this, MD"s with this would be shear chaos.

Ammo will only regenerate AFTER the battle IF you survive. I see no problem with it being like a module.

Like I said, bullets are easily replenished by manufacture nanites after the battle ends. Vehicle/dropsuit shields and armor regenerate after battle if they survive, so there is no reason to make ammo an exception.

Having it to run out even when you don't die, not only wouldn't make sense, but would be tedious because it would mean you would always need to restock even when you don't die. So much time in the game is just spent managing fittings instead of actually doing battles, depleting ammo would only add to that.

Except, ammunition shouldn't be like modules, because it's ammunition.


Shields regenerate all the time, and armor is repaired. You cannot repair something that gets used up. It makes sense for ammo to run out when you use it, and it would give some incentive to conserve ammo. It's just like the cost of hi-tech dropsuits, except instead of being reckless with your life, you're being reckless with your bullets.


Managing fittings? All you would have to do is restock ammunition, compared to your idea, so it really is very minimal.

Actually, you can manufacture it with nanites. I said this before. You can manufacture things with nanites, that is how nanohives work; they manufacture bullets to replace the ones that got used up within seconds.
Go read the nanohive (hive of nanites or nanobots) full description in the market.

Just to make sure we're clear, nanites (self-replicating microscopic machines) can construct ammunition to replace depleted rounds within seconds.

If its replenished that easily, there is no reason why it can't just behave like a module.

Because it's ammunition.

Like it or not, the lore is already established.

You realize that's not a valid argument right?
"Why can't X be a subcategory of Y? because its X"

Apply that same logic to anything else
"Why can't a crow be a subcategory of birds? because its a crow"
"Why can't a cat be a subcategory of animal? because its a cats"
All of these counterexamples show this line of reasoning is invalid, therefore you can't just say "because its ammunition".

You can't just restate something is what it is as proof as why it can't fall into a broader category.

Ammunition is not a subcategory of modules, so don't play that card.

Also, what you are suggesting (basically just another facet for weapon customization) would be much easier to accomplish if it worked like any other weapon customization feature, and not a separate sub-module. It would work identically to what you are suggesting, but be much simpler. I don't support it terribly, but it's better than nothing. I would much rather prefer a normal ammunition feature, but this alternative, so long as it was implemented as a customization configuration and not as a module, would be acceptable.

Currently ammunition isn't a subcategory of anything..

That was my point.

Ammunition is not a subcategory of modules, so don't play that card.

Also, what you are suggesting (basically just another facet for weapon customization) would be much easier to accomplish if it worked like any other weapon customization feature, and not a separate sub-module. It would work identically to what you are suggesting, but be much simpler. I don't support it terribly, but it's better than nothing. I would much rather prefer a normal ammunition feature, but this alternative, so long as it was implemented as a customization configuration and not as a module, would be acceptable.

I don't like the idea of separate modules. I think nanohives should still replenish the special ammo. Special ammo should compliment standard ammo not make it redundant. You could introduce tracer rounds, tracker darts, emp? If new ammo just does more damage then anyone using it would have an excessive advantage over normal players.

Just to clear this up: do you mean that you would attach a ammo type to the gun fitting, and f you didn't die, it would stay no matter how many shots you fired? If so, I thought of this idea ages ago, and I got raged at for saying this idea. I agree with you, this would be fun to have in Dust, especially if I could do this with my blaster on my HAV.

I think nanohives should replenish special ammo as well.
I don't want special rounds to just be higher damage versions of basic ammo, but instead just exist different roles, and with different strengths and weaknesses. Tracing rounds, and EMP rounds (guessing low damage rounds that mess up enemy HUD) would be awesome.

How would you like it to work if not as a module you fit on your gun?

I guess modules make the most sense. Would also limit over powered fittings. What about equipment slot?