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DestrukterDust
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:06:00 -
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Post and sign below for a petition to remove the weekly SP cap.
Sign, Destrukter |
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Firestorm Zulu
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:11:00 -
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DestrukterDust wrote:Post and sign below for a petition to remove the weekly SP cap.
Sign, Destrukter
No thanks, something needs to be done to stop the people who live in their parents basement to not dominate the game . |
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DestrukterDust
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:15:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:DestrukterDust wrote:Post and sign below for a petition to remove the weekly SP cap.
Sign, Destrukter No thanks, something needs to be done to stop the people who live in their parents basement to not dominate the game .
I capped in 2 hours. pathetic...... i could see a daily cap, that's fine, but how can ppl even begin to "catch up" with the basement dwellers? by playing once every week., then logging off the rest of the time lol. dumbest thing i've ever heard. |
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:53:00 -
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As if SP is the only thing that matters. |
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DestrukterDust
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:57:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:As if SP is the only thing that matters.
actually it does, when you can't skill out into anything. honestly this game will be long out in full before i can get protogear alone.......1 week cap, fine w/e but then we should have had a wipe, instead of allowing ppl to be months ahead with no way of getting up to them. |
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:02:00 -
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DestrukterDust wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:As if SP is the only thing that matters. actually it does, when you can't skill out into anything. honestly this game will be long out in full before i can get protogear alone.......1 week cap, fine w/e but then we should have had a wipe, instead of allowing ppl to be months ahead with no way of getting up to them.
You only think that because you are playing 10% of what the game has to offer. Once we get another chunk you will change your tune. |
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DestrukterDust
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:08:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:DestrukterDust wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:As if SP is the only thing that matters. actually it does, when you can't skill out into anything. honestly this game will be long out in full before i can get protogear alone.......1 week cap, fine w/e but then we should have had a wipe, instead of allowing ppl to be months ahead with no way of getting up to them. You only think that because you are playing 10% of what the game has to offer. Once we get another chunk you will change your tune.
Since i'm capped in 2 hours, I suppose i can only see 10% of what it has to offer. |
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Alfraeid Gaugin
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:39:00 -
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I like the cap. Keeps the basement dwellers from becoming gods in two weeks. What I would like to see is some match making changes, such as giving a two million sp spread. Too many matches I've been in where new players and day one beta players are on the same map. Or go to a system with only passive sp gain. I've played EVE for some time and I enjoyed setting skills to train and only played for the income to purchase gear. This is something that would benefit all players who have lives. I know the corp I'm in has all but quit playing because of dissatisfaction with the situation. I was playing daily until this week and because the guys I've come to enjoy running with are not playing I have stopped playing regularly. |
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DestrukterDust
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:48:00 -
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Alfraeid Gaugin wrote:I like the cap. Keeps the basement dwellers from becoming gods in two weeks. What I would like to see is some match making changes, such as giving a two million sp spread. Too many matches I've been in where new players and day one beta players are on the same map. Or go to a system with only passive sp gain. I've played EVE for some time and I enjoyed setting skills to train and only played for the income to purchase gear. This is something that would benefit all players who have lives. I know the corp I'm in has all but quit playing because of dissatisfaction with the situation. I was playing daily until this week and because the guys I've come to enjoy running with are not playing I have stopped playing regularly.
basically thats what im trying to get to, no one cares if the cap is there or not because the majority have a ton of sp already, so it doesnt matter, but when getting back into the game or being new, ur out matched and if u hit ur cap so fast, why even play? |
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Ryder Azorria
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:54:00 -
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-1
Also, calling BS on capping in 2 hours, even at 30,000 sp a match per 10 minute match (which is super 1337, living in your parents basement at 40 high), that's only 360,000 out of ~500,000 sp. And that doesn't even take into account diminishing returns. |
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DestrukterDust
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Posted - 2012.12.28 06:00:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:-1
Also, calling BS on capping in 2 hours, even at 30,000 sp a match per 10 minute match (which is super 1337, living in your parents basement at 40 high), that's only 360,000 out of ~500,000 sp. And that doesn't even take into account diminishing returns.
30ksp per match? do you blow at this game or something lol??? |
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WHz DS9899
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Posted - 2012.12.28 06:16:00 -
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Wait, the weekly cap is about 500k? damn that's low.... |
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DestrukterDust
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Posted - 2012.12.28 06:17:00 -
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WHz DS9899 wrote:Wait, the weekly cap is about 500k? damn that's low....
honestly i think its lower then that. |
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Posted - 2012.12.28 08:28:00 -
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no |
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Ulysses Knapse
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:19:00 -
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DestrukterDust wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:-1
Also, calling BS on capping in 2 hours, even at 30,000 sp a match per 10 minute match (which is super 1337, living in your parents basement at 40 high), that's only 360,000 out of ~500,000 sp. And that doesn't even take into account diminishing returns. 30ksp per match? do you blow at this game or something lol??? I've had a few very good matches, where I died once or twice and got many kills, and I didn't get anywhere near 30,000 skillpoints for it. |
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Laurent Cazaderon
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:10:00 -
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DestrukterDust wrote:Firestorm Zulu wrote:DestrukterDust wrote:Post and sign below for a petition to remove the weekly SP cap.
Sign, Destrukter No thanks, something needs to be done to stop the people who live in their parents basement to not dominate the game . I capped in 2 hours. pathetic...... i could see a daily cap, that's fine, but how can ppl even begin to "catch up" with the basement dwellers? by playing once every week., then logging off the rest of the time lol. dumbest thing i've ever heard.
you capped in 2 hours ? exagerating much ?
And agreed with many others. Weekly cap = better solution overall for the player base. Tweaks needed to make it last longer (raise cap slightly, make first games less rewarding etc...) |
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JW v Weingarten
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:14:00 -
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reaching cap in 2 hours is bs.
the weekly cap is a good thing, the only problem is that it is way too low now. 1m skillpoint a week sounds fair to me. |
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Laurent Cazaderon
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:40:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:reaching cap in 2 hours is bs.
the weekly cap is a good thing, the only problem is that it is way too low now. 1m skillpoint a week sounds fair to me.
It's not about fair or not fair. It's about having an EVE and Dust SP progression that's similar over a same period of time. The curve of SP earning over the course of the week is what should be tweaked.
But we'll probably have something new on the matter for open beta. |
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Gunner Visari
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:31:00 -
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DestrukterDust wrote:Logi Bro wrote:DestrukterDust wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:As if SP is the only thing that matters. actually it does, when you can't skill out into anything. honestly this game will be long out in full before i can get protogear alone.......1 week cap, fine w/e but then we should have had a wipe, instead of allowing ppl to be months ahead with no way of getting up to them. You only think that because you are playing 10% of what the game has to offer. Once we get another chunk you will change your tune. Since i'm capped in 2 hours, I suppose i can only see 10% of what it has to offer.
Are you getting 0 WP per game. If not you haven't hit the CAP you're approaching the limit of the curve created but not yet hit cap. I know because with boosters on i hit the low 1000's WP per game in 5-7games. but still havent hit zero in 2 days of play.
Edit- There are multiple threads on this issue pick one and post there. Also removing cap wouldnt benefit you over vets since those ppl who start before you will have the same advantage and could continue to accrue SP as well, what you want is a rollover system that would account for the global SP cap since day 1 that would allow a new player to play uncapped until they reach or get close to that limit. |
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:51:00 -
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DestrukterDust wrote:Firestorm Zulu wrote:DestrukterDust wrote:Post and sign below for a petition to remove the weekly SP cap.
Sign, Destrukter No thanks, something needs to be done to stop the people who live in their parents basement to not dominate the game . I capped in 2 hours. pathetic...... i could see a daily cap, that's fine, but how can ppl even begin to "catch up" with the basement dwellers? by playing once every week., then logging off the rest of the time lol. dumbest thing i've ever heard.
I call Bologna on capped in 2 hours, if you cap just make isk to purchase items within your plan... Make a plan, this game isn't meant for basement dwellers and cash cows just to earn everything available all at once... There has to be a balance.. Now if you would of said take hybrid q skill system out I would of signed this petition, if you would of said make the skill q similar to eve's I would of signed the petition..
But sorry No Thanks
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:33:00 -
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WHz DS9899 wrote:Wait, the weekly cap is about 500k? damn that's low....
Actually without passive SP or boosters its about 300k. And I echo everyone elses comments on hitting cap in 2 hours. |
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:57:00 -
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I agree with DestrukterDust
This cap is BS.
Fair enough hitting the cap in 2 hours may be an overstatement but even so it is easy to hit your cap on the first day if your not s**t at FPS.
If your not hitting the current cap in a day then you are either s**t or your not a regular player, either way, stop trying to break it for the rest of us.
Why are we trying to cater more for once a week wonders rather than regular players?
Signed Deveshi |
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:36:00 -
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They need to up te cap to a million at least or put it to a daily cap. You reach the sp cap in a day as of right now. |
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Posted - 2012.12.29 05:10:00 -
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GIZMO2606 wrote:They need to up te cap to a million at least or put it to a daily cap. You reach the sp cap in a day as of right now.
agreed |
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Dragon Grace
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Posted - 2012.12.29 14:50:00 -
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+1 to original post.
maybe not removing it completely, as it does have a use......
...but the cap need to be implemented properly. i cap out after about 4 hours of playing. after that, it just feels like grinding. thats not cool. Being an EVE player i am used to the passive training by putting skills into your Queue that train away while you are trying to dominate. i have no idea whether or not it would work on Dust. personally, i dont see why not, but i can see how other people may find it a bad idea.
The SP cap is a good thing....but its poorly implemented. |
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Posted - 2012.12.29 15:03:00 -
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A weekly cap trumps a daily cap, but when you lie about how fast you hit it, nobody will take you seriously. |
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Draco Dustflier
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Posted - 2012.12.30 05:19:00 -
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the sp cap should be removed completely, as should diminishing returns. if not, it will kil the game. there's a reason no other shooting game uses either. |
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Draco Dustflier
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Posted - 2012.12.30 09:17:00 -
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signed draco dustflier |
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