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fenrir storm
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:03:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:It's not in a bad state. The framework is there, now we need some enhancements, to make it seem as if the battlefield is alive. Maybe gunshot indicators, better lighting, fluid animations, etc.
It's in a **** poor state compared to those demos of 3 nearly 4 years ago. I'd trade the graphics of now for those if we got the maps and smooth play of those demos. What your playing at the moment is a sci fi esc bf3 conquest game only with out the polish
I think your all in for a shock when the final player count is sorted , it wont be nearly as large as we were all lead to believe
And whats so exciting about having a pc player being able to interact ?
Hows that going to make the core fps game work better . The game just dosn't inspire me, seems ccp trying to make it into a jack of all trades . |
fenrir storm
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:35:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:It's not in a bad state. The framework is there, now we need some enhancements, to make it seem as if the battlefield is alive. Maybe gunshot indicators, better lighting, fluid animations, etc. It's in a **** poor state compared to those demos of 3 nearly 4 years ago. I'd trade the graphics of now for those if we got the maps and smooth play of those demos. What your playing at the moment is a sci fi esc bf3 conquest game only with out the polish I think your all in for a shock when the final player count is sorted , it wont be nearly as large as we were all lead to believe Eve players trying to make this game an eve expansion instead of its own game. Every time I see a thread about mtacs, secondary market, more modules, more skills, it makes me even more dissapointed. CCP needs to get some real feedback in these forums. The long winded posts by the eve players who type their posts with a thesoraurus so they appear smart is bogging down the real feedback this game needs.
Yup, and when these eve players start flooding the market with isk it will make for a very lopsided game.
It will become a game of those who have and those that don't, and those that don't will be very frustrated.
Trouble is most can't see that the reason for eve interaction is to get dust players to play eve to support there dust account thus the free to play game becomes a pay monthly sub game..
Those demos are far superior to what we have now, makes you think |
fenrir storm
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:08:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Firestorm Zulu wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:It's not in a bad state. The framework is there, now we need some enhancements, to make it seem as if the battlefield is alive. Maybe gunshot indicators, better lighting, fluid animations, etc. It's in a **** poor state compared to those demos of 3 nearly 4 years ago. I'd trade the graphics of now for those if we got the maps and smooth play of those demos. What your playing at the moment is a sci fi esc bf3 conquest game only with out the polish I think your all in for a shock when the final player count is sorted , it wont be nearly as large as we were all lead to believe Eve players trying to make this game an eve expansion instead of its own game. Every time I see a thread about mtacs, secondary market, more modules, more skills, it makes me even more dissapointed. CCP needs to get some real feedback in these forums. The long winded posts by the eve players who type their posts with a thesoraurus so they appear smart is bogging down the real feedback this game needs. Yup, and when these eve players start flooding the market with isk it will make for a very lopsided game. It will become a game of those who have and those that don't, and those that don't will be very frustrated. Trouble is most can't see that the reason for eve interaction is to get dust players to play eve to support there dust account thus the free to play game becomes a pay monthly sub game.. Those demos are far superior to what we have now, makes you think I bet they had a funding problem. Switching engines has caused so many delays and poor feature implementation that all funding now comes from AUR and merc packs. Minimal eve money probably goes into this game ever since they started losing the player base in their own game so they had to divert resources back into their cash cow. Jita riots in 2010 probably screwed dust development to about 5 chinese guys in shanghai trying to make a "ground breaking game" all by themselves
Your more cynical than I am I had great hopes for dust but the longer I participate in this so called beta the more I can see it not working as I was lead to believe. |
fenrir storm
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:49:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Firestorm Zulu wrote:fenrir storm wrote:
Yup, and when these eve players start flooding the market with isk it will make for a very lopsided game.
It will become a game of those who have and those that don't, and those that don't will be very frustrated.
Trouble is most can't see that the reason for eve interaction is to get dust players to play eve to support there dust account thus the free to play game becomes a pay monthly sub game..
Those demos are far superior to what we have now, makes you think
I bet they had a funding problem. Switching engines has caused so many delays and poor feature implementation that all funding now comes from AUR and merc packs. Minimal eve money probably goes into this game ever since they started losing the player base in their own game so they had to divert resources back into their cash cow. Jita riots in 2010 probably screwed dust development to about 5 chinese guys in shanghai trying to make a "ground breaking game" all by themselves Your more cynical than I am I had great hopes for dust but the longer I participate in this so called beta the more I can see it not working as I was lead to believe. Ya I'm probably too negative at times but I feel like its called for because I have to compete with "great job ccp! Keep up the great work , best game evaaaaar!" We need reality here, not dillusion. The fact I still participate in these forums shows that I still have hope for this game but my patience is running thin since I've been participating since April
True I've been here for 5 builds now (sure it is ) and it's like one step forward 3 steps back, trouble is those who used to say it as it is have mostly given up and the fanboys have taken over. |
fenrir storm
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:09:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:ill be honest i dont know coding but i swear it all feels the same as bf2. Wiki said refract engine, but i think as others have said either Dice or ex Dice had a hand in Dust. Personally i think they grabbed the bf2 coding and added upon it for some solid ground for the connections.
They have a couple of ex dice (bf ) people on board for this game, pity they didn't give them the lead in development at least the game may have a real direction to head for then.
Vehicles mat even be ballanced and handle better then
As for the PS4 the specs and hardware that is being toted about various web dosn't fill me with much optimism either especially the AMD graphics card that is already out classed |
fenrir storm
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:33:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Crm234 wrote:ill be honest i dont know coding but i swear it all feels the same as bf2. Wiki said refract engine, but i think as others have said either Dice or ex Dice had a hand in Dust. Personally i think they grabbed the bf2 coding and added upon it for some solid ground for the connections. They have a couple of ex dice (bf ) people on board for this game, pity they didn't give them the lead in development at least the game may have a real direction to head for then. Vehicles mat even be ballanced and handle better then As for the PS4 the specs and hardware that is being toted about various web dosn't fill me with much optimism either especially the AMD graphics card that is already out classed I would be content if the ps4s hardware could make dust look like a frostbite 2 game with a high player count and all the bells, whistles, and gimmicks dust has to offer (plus excellent FPS mechanics)
For that my friend they should of released it on pc, ps is not going to be able to handle 80 players per side it just dosn't have the grunt to have them all in the same area without splitting and instanceing them. Remember what looks quite powerful today is out classed in 6 months and if they go with those AMD cards they are over 12 months old or more now |
fenrir storm
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Posted - 2012.12.31 00:59:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:thats total bs, the only reason i would agree with you on that is because this beta has always felt like an add on to eve and not its own game. The reason why we dont have 80 players is so most eve players can feel good about their shiny new modules. it takes a lot of processing power to process different gear that all looks the same but different stats to each gek or blindfire. this beta is lagging way to much as it for as low as the player count is now.
mmorpg`s get away with things like that because FPS require a lot more information to between player tracking.
Explain bf3 on pc compared to ps3 then same game one has a signiffcantly higher player count than the other |
fenrir storm
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Posted - 2012.12.31 01:40:00 -
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But those players wernt all in the same area at the same time they were instanced sort of the ps just cant handle it, wish it could .
Look up the specs for ps4 (orbis) I know they are speculation but the hard ware is already dated , console is always going to be 3 steps behind even if sony allow for more band width |
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