No wow factor? There is PLENTY of wow factor for me personally. Planetside 2, as awesome as it is, is a MUCH watered down version of DUST 514. PS2 may have a higher level of wow sheen at the moment, but hows that amalgamation of the PC/console going? :) No one has done what CCP is doing, for that reason I dare say they have slightly more on their plate than the PS2 team did during development. It must be nice just having to make sure your game looks and plays nice. :D

The wow factor in DUST 514 is that battles mean something. PS2 has you warring over one planet? DUST will have 7,500 of them to fight over. There are 100 skills in the beta alone and we know there are going to be more skills added at launch I see wow in the complete flexibility CCP has afforded through the dropsuit and module system. PS2 has...7 defined classes? WOW? lol :) Comparing a released game and a game still in closed beta is an unbalanced comparison though really.:)

How could I not love a free to play MMO RPG FPS on PS3 that supports Move and M&K, as well as custom soundtrack and is getting a Vita app. The Chromosome build completely revolutionised my DUST experience too. I have never had so much fun playing as I do in this build. The controls are awesome and the game looks way better than it did at E3. I am VERY happy with where the game is at now and can't wait to watch the rest of it unfold. :D

In nothing you just said had anything to do with a battlefield that fears me the most about this beta, the battlefield experience is boring and really grey and bland. You can scream skills till your blue in the face but I dont care about that as a non RPG player. I have played games for over 2 years after I hit the max level because they were fun not because I had to collect all the skills. There is really no reason to care about a conquered planet if only 8 vs 8 did it.

As to my other corp mate I really hope so I really do , but at the moment without an Eve account it just feels like a black hole to me of money

I agree, it's obvious we have a lot of eve people in here right now who are trying to focus on other parts of the game and tend not to worry about the actual FPS part. My question to you, do you have confidence that once this goes public that significant changes will still happen? I'm not very optimistic at this point.

P.S. For all the people still saying that what we have is excellent for a free beta, remember thy some people payed 30 dollars for a merc pack (buying the game) and also have been dumping cash into aurum. If I was one of those people I would be pretty irate about the current state of this game

It's not in a bad state. The framework is there, now we need some enhancements, to make it seem as if the battlefield is alive. Maybe gunshot indicators, better lighting, fluid animations, etc.

Eve players trying to make this game an eve expansion instead of its own game. Every time I see a thread about mtacs, secondary market, more modules, more skills, it makes me even more dissapointed. CCP needs to get some real feedback in these forums. The long winded posts by the eve players who type their posts with a thesoraurus so they appear smart is bogging down the real feedback this game needs.

I bet they had a funding problem. Switching engines has caused so many delays and poor feature implementation that all funding now comes from AUR and merc packs. Minimal eve money probably goes into this game ever since they started losing the player base in their own game so they had to divert resources back into their cash cow. Jita riots in 2010 probably screwed dust development to about 5 chinese guys in shanghai trying to make a "ground breaking game" all by themselves

Its just a different beta , but same result. For BF3 it was the coding on the floor and for Dust its FPS mechanics. Both companies are trying to get the most bang for there buck with updates. For CCP its adding new skills and weapons but having no clue how to implement them into a FPS game.

Im waiting for the open beta to finally get this game fixed , its not in till PS3 players actually play this game that it will be fixed to perfection past the Eve 2.0

Just so that everyone knows, and for the record, I hate EA and everything they stand for.

That is all.

ill be honest i dont know coding but i swear it all feels the same as bf2. Wiki said refract engine, but i think as others have said either Dice or ex Dice had a hand in Dust. Personally i think they grabbed the bf2 coding and added upon it for some solid ground for the connections.