Do you guys think that there's nothing wrong with a grenade launcher that you can fire 6 or 8 grenades without having to reload? That gun requires the least skill in the game but, arguably, the most damaging because it is the splash that wipes you out. You don't even have to hit the guy and you can launch it across the map.

I don't mind the splash damage or its radius....my issue with the MD is the fact that you can miss a guy 6 times and still kill him without a reload. There should be a reload after each grenade or after 2 grenades at maximum. It just doesn't make sense that you can spray all of those grenades and miss and still get the kill.

What you guys think?

you know what I'm done being reasonable F**K YOU GO BACK TO COD! god forbid there is any usable weapon that not a rifle or smg HUH?? how dare they make a grenade luancher that is a primary weapons that isnt easy to kill. there is a reason very few people use it and they dont point well becuase its NOT OP!! you just hate it becuase you cant dance around it and kill it with your ar like every thing else.

I love that the MD is finally useful again even if only in the hands of a logi. I dont really use it for anything but crowd breaking but its fun having to use different tactics then dance and kill this guy dance and kill that guy it was boring, I like that I have to work for heavy kills, I like that I have to use the terrain to my advantage or god forbid work with my squad to take out a MD.

this guy got it exactly right! look at the dps hell look at the dmg per cilp it favored and still favors the AR, a gun that is easier to use.
he read and under stood your comment better the you did you half wit.

Right....you have to actually aim and connect with an assault rifle. Aso opposed to a mass driver where you miss and still get the kill. I would respect it if guys killed you with one or two grenades. But when they pop 6 at you before killing you.....it is just a noobb weapon

Naming no names, a certain person in a proto suit one shotted me with the EXO Mass Driver the other day while I was in an A-Series Assault suit with 2 enhanced shield extenders, 1 enhanced armor plate, 1 armor repair module, and my mechanics skill is at 5 and my shield control is at 3. I suppose I may have been tapped by a bullet or two before it connected, but it was still far too strong. The proto drivers should be officer level weapons, the advanced should be proto, basic should be advanced, and a lower level should replace the basics.

TL;DR: Drivers need a minor drop in damage. DON'T REPEAT THE MISSILE NERF CRISIS WITH THESE WEAPONS. These weapons are perfect as are, but the damage is just slightly over the top.

Here's a simple challenge to anyone who thinks that the MD is OP: Use it.

Go ahead, pick it up and use it. Don't be afraid. It won't cost you much SP and you already have all your light weapon skills polished. It's not like I'm asking you to skill into heavy.

Decimate everyone with your OP weapon, then come back here and report your 34/0 Games and your 10.9 KDR and we'll talk about how it makes you so OP.

If on the other hand you find that our KDR has taken a hit and you aren't getting the same kill streaks that you do with your AR I'd like you to come back and report that as well.

Talk is cheap. If you truly believe what you claim it won't be hard to make your point in the only way that counts here, on the battlefield.

Sounds like you got direct hit headshotted. Depending on the person's skills, one of those could do more damage than you have hp. I've dropped some skinweave heavies down to about 10% armor with one shot before.

Because only direct hits will net enough damage to breach a serious shield tank. that way the second shot has a chance of killing you.

As a logi i use the md to lat down a wall of shrapnel to cover an advance or as a final "GET OFF ME!"

Mass drivers have splash damage, but someone has to be already jacked up for splash to pull a kill.

If it were otherwise I'd be running 1st or 2nd place for kills, instead of being there for crapping ammo, constantly repping and stabbing fallen teammates with needles.

Who goes for direct hits?

I do. because if i dont land at least one on you i get to replace yet another logi fit.

Got other things i need to do befire i can train flux. namely train skills to better keep you chumps upright and firing.

Priorities dont you know.


By the way, one in every three nanite cocktails is mixed with fine beers that the gallente mudwrestling teams skinny dip in.

I dont think the OP realizes that a six shot, impact fused revolver grenade launcher is a real weapon in real life.

My other real counterpoint shall be the four shot mass driver was ******** as hell when you realize all the models have six chambers.

I used the MK-19 in the marines a decade ago. earlier version of that monster.

Probably the reciever doesnt weigh seventy five pounds

The article mentions that the drum is spring driven, so that would explain the spin given during the reload animation. I thought it was a cheesy cowboy move, but now I can see it is a required part of reloading and it won't grate on me.

I see FGs and MDs used as SGs. Also off the splash damage topic and to the using other guns as SGs topic, snipers are doing that 2.