DUST Search - A serious thread about Mass Drivers

Tbone322 wrote:

DEADPOOL5241 wrote:

Ludvig Enraga wrote:

MD used to be garbage of a weapon that everyone was afraid to touch for the fear of getting cooties. Now it got a small but reasonable boost and a few ppl are using it which is great and diversifies the game. All the whinning comes from but hurt ppl who end up being killed a couple of times by a weapon and say it's OP. When a MD wielding player consistently tops post-game leaderboards or at least scores most kills for the team, then the weapon becomes OP. All I now see is that ppl with AR and HMG dominate leaderboards. MD is not even close.
I like how some ppl say that MD used to be a fine support weapon. This is the kinda mentality that boxed everyone into using AR because it was the only viable option. All these other 'fine' weapons were never used by anyone b/c they were garbage.

Played about 20 matches over the weekend, used Exo MD and got on avg 20 to 30 kills with 3-4 deaths each round. But I work with a nice squad with multiple types of weapons and that is the real killer in this game. AR are great, lasers are great, HMG = awesome but when you get a goo group with diversity it really makes a huge difference.

How does that compare to when you run with an AR?


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DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.26 16:41:00 - [1] - Quote @ OP could it be that MD are not that OP but being played correctly? When this game goes live, with bigger maps and more players guns like this will fit in perfectly. BTW, aiming with a MD is harder then an AR. You need to get the right depth and distance to hit someone. I love my MD, it makes me feel like a Demoman from TF2 again, just need my remote explosives to work on my K/M and ill be set.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.26 17:23:00 - [2] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: MD used to be garbage of a weapon that everyone was afraid to touch for the fear of getting cooties. Now it got a small but reasonable boost and a few ppl are using it which is great and diversifies the game. All the whinning comes from but hurt ppl who end up being killed a couple of times by a weapon and say it's OP. When a MD wielding player consistently tops post-game leaderboards or at least scores most kills for the team, then the weapon becomes OP. All I now see is that ppl with AR and HMG dominate leaderboards. MD is not even close. I like how some ppl say that MD used to be a fine support weapon. This is the kinda mentality that boxed everyone into using AR because it was the only viable option. All these other 'fine' weapons were never used by anyone b/c they were garbage. Played about 20 matches over the weekend, used Exo MD and got on avg 20 to 30 kills with 3-4 deaths each round. But I work with a nice squad with multiple types of weapons and that is the real killer in this game. AR are great, lasers are great, HMG = awesome but when you get a goo group with diversity it really makes a huge difference.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.26 18:03:00 - [3] - Quote Tbone322 wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: MD used to be garbage of a weapon that everyone was afraid to touch for the fear of getting cooties. Now it got a small but reasonable boost and a few ppl are using it which is great and diversifies the game. All the whinning comes from but hurt ppl who end up being killed a couple of times by a weapon and say it's OP. When a MD wielding player consistently tops post-game leaderboards or at least scores most kills for the team, then the weapon becomes OP. All I now see is that ppl with AR and HMG dominate leaderboards. MD is not even close. I like how some ppl say that MD used to be a fine support weapon. This is the kinda mentality that boxed everyone into using AR because it was the only viable option. All these other 'fine' weapons were never used by anyone b/c they were garbage. Played about 20 matches over the weekend, used Exo MD and got on avg 20 to 30 kills with 3-4 deaths each round. But I work with a nice squad with multiple types of weapons and that is the real killer in this game. AR are great, lasers are great, HMG = awesome but when you get a goo group with diversity it really makes a huge difference. How does that compare to when you run with an AR? About the same more or less. You have to think more about high ground to fire from, then good side cover with an AR. Learning ranges to hit targets or to hit walls around targets to get splash damage is very different then with an AR. With AR I usually range from 20 to 30 kills with my corp in a squad. But now its a better group with multiple types of damage you can hit your opponent with.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.27 18:23:00 - [4] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know, people keep comparing the MD to the assault rifle, in terms of skill. And I don't see how one can....you actually have to hit someone with the AR and the target isn't always a big one. You can miss with the MD and still kill them. There's no splash damage on the AR..and you have to predict where they're going when they're strafing or trying to dodge bullets. See the MD as what it is....I'm not disrespecting those that wish to use it but don't compare it to the AR And assault rifles don't have a ballistic arc, have WAAAAAAAAAAAY more max ammo, and can't be used to suicide. Comparing these makes no sense, because the skills are in different areas. Ydubbs does not understand that using a MD is harder then an AR. Even with 6 shots, the first 1-2 are range finding. MD requires much more thinking and planning ahead of your targets then an AR, Laser or HMG. MD does take skill no matter what OP or anyone else thinks. But because they get killed a few times with a MD, then call it OP. Maybe it is for right now, maybe for the little maps we have, but when the maps get bigger and badder, they will be a great defensive weapon and a great group suppression tool. Can you abuse MD, sure. But same can be said of most weapons when you have the skill points to pump into them. Throw a damage Mod on and you have a powerful weapon. But each weapon in the right hands with a skilled player makes that weapon OP. Are MD as OP as a tank, NO. Are the as OP as a dropship, NO. Are they as OP as AR's still are, NO. As far as splash damage, dude if you are not hitting within half of inch to your target you are doing very minimal damage. MD are not spray and pray, if you do that you run out of rounds or dead. MD forces you to almost always carry a nanohive because of the lack of ammo. That or you sit by the Ammo dump all day. MD in a group fire fight, wheres its you vs 2-5 targets wont win as often as a good AR in the same situation. Oh and MD head shots are so rare that if you get killed by one, then you gotta appreciate the skill that it took to kill you. Stop the Nerf threads, posting this type of thread shows who the players are and who the whiners are.