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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.12.25 00:47:00 -
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Yes i said it nubs, DUST needs to be the benchmark of military tactical gaming and thus needs a suppression effect ala BF dont believe me? just watch this vid and see how tactical this is, beware tho all this raw talent might be too much to handle
PS: Suppression must only be for MGs, and while we're at it give MGs a bipod that makes them deadly accurate. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsbTjPe2fs and no this is not me sadly in the vid...i only wish i had all this raw talent |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.12.25 00:49:00 -
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We have suppression tools, they're called mass drivers and heavy machine guns and tanks.
Suppression tactically is not well suited for our environments as it requires one group to be very immobile and that just leaves you open to getting flanked or struck from orbit. |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.25 00:56:00 -
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F*** no, sorry but we dont need suppression effects. BF3 was horrible because it rewards the people who spray and pray, as seen in the video above^. My accuracy shouldn't go to s*** just because a bullet flew past my head that was so gay in BF3. Bipods.....just no |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.12.25 00:58:00 -
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I did really like the blurred vision suppression effect in BF3, though I think the rewards should be minimal since it just requires you to miss. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:01:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:F*** no, sorry but we dont need suppression effects. BF3 was horrible because it rewards the people who spray and pray, as seen in the video above^. My accuracy shouldn't go to s*** just because a bullet flew past my head that was so gay in BF3. Bipods.....just no
Skillcannon....it's for skilled players. Very much like Mass Driver users camping ontop of a building looking down...skill.
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Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
634
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:02:00 -
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Immortals don't get scared and go blurry-eyed just because someone shot in their general direction. |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:04:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:G-SLicK wrote:F*** no, sorry but we dont need suppression effects. BF3 was horrible because it rewards the people who spray and pray, as seen in the video above^. My accuracy shouldn't go to s*** just because a bullet flew past my head that was so gay in BF3. Bipods.....just no Skillcannon....it's for skilled players. Very much like Mass Driver users camping ontop of a building looking down...skill.
hey i know, everyone seems to think it takes skill to use mass drivers. i agree it does take skill |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:06:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Immortals don't get scared and go blurry-eyed just because someone shot in their general direction.
Could not be blurred vision, but the heat from all the overwhelming amount of shots heating the air, and causing light to refract in waves. Ever seen how high heat effects Kind of like this: http://www.astrographics.com/GalleryPrints/Display/GP4255.jpg
To the OP, i recommend you put this in your OP as an explanation for the suppression visual effect for Dust, or something else. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:07:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:G-SLicK wrote:F*** no, sorry but we dont need suppression effects. BF3 was horrible because it rewards the people who spray and pray, as seen in the video above^. My accuracy shouldn't go to s*** just because a bullet flew past my head that was so gay in BF3. Bipods.....just no Skillcannon....it's for skilled players. Very much like Mass Driver users camping ontop of a building looking down...skill. hey i know, everyone seems to think it takes skill to use mass drivers. i agree it does take skill
but suppression is a must though. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:09:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:F*** no, sorry but we dont need suppression effects. BF3 was horrible because it rewards the people who spray and pray, as seen in the video above^. My accuracy shouldn't go to s*** just because a bullet flew past my head that was so gay in BF3. Bipods.....just no
Suppression is the future! embrace it G-Slick the true tactical clans will arise as ppl setup proper flanking strats, run an gun clans will be forced to adapt to this new lvl of tactical gameplay. i mean just look at that raw talent! and hes a team player too as shown by his savior medal Realism ftw! |
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Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:11:00 -
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Attention - CCP and other scrubs watching this.
This is a joke, do not implement.
Unimplement this in Mass Drivers. |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
300
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:11:00 -
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Dust is going on a good way, i love the sun flare, and if they add suppression....boy this game would be epic.
hopefully they find a way to implement destruction just like in bf3. |
Gemini Reynolds
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:12:00 -
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Bullets in the head suppress enemy fire real nice. |
VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
135
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:13:00 -
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suppression has a real effect that does not need to be reflected in the game with something new. Many valid points have been stated, one it should not be rewarded because it requires you to miss...... Besides that it should not be a in game mechanic due to the fact that someone shooting a HMG or mass driver adds the suppression effect because the enemy (should) be worried about being hit. That is what suppressing fire does. Also stated that immortals will not get blury vision or go into shock, they've done this hundreds of times before. And the only thing it could do is as stated heat up the air causing blur.
and finally as stated, hit your target, that does actual help
in no way should this be rewarded besides a thank you from your teamates |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We have suppression tools, they're called mass drivers and heavy machine guns and tanks.
Suppression tactically is not well suited for our environments as it requires one group to be very immobile and that just leaves you open to getting flanked or struck from orbit. Also small railguns. What they lack at in actual lethality they make up for in shock value. The explosions also make it harder to see. |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:20:00 -
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good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:21:00 -
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No for suppression mechanics. And that video looks like crap, his buddies are running in front of him getting hit in the legs and nothing seems to be happening. Plus, he's not even really aiming or attempting to aim. He's just randomly spraying and taking them out. No one does that because you'd in reality burn out the barrel. |
KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:22:00 -
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As an HMG user i support this. |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
300
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:24:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed
battlefield 3 did not fail, CCP could learn more from bf3 than from all these mag fanboys trying to make dust mag 2.0
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:27:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed
so you're saying destruction and suppression made BF3 fail?
I won't say the game failed though. In June BF3 sold 15 million copies...with it selling 5 million alone in the first week of release.
Fail? No. Lack of dev support? Yes. Lack of clan support? Yes. You not adapting to BF3? Yes.
No offense but it sounds like you fail on BF3. |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:29:00 -
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Needs a skill to up the suppression effect too! Suppression - raises suppression effect by 2% per lvl and Suppression proficiency raises suppression effect by 3% per lvl
such a grand idea and while we're at it have a skill called combat veteran that reduces suppression by 4% per lvl
PS: Any update on if we are indeed gettin capes and grappling hooks that were suggested by someone a few months back????? |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:29:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Yes i said it nubs, DUST needs to be the benchmark of military tactical gaming and thus needs a suppression effect ala BF dont believe me? just watch this vid and see how tactical this is, beware tho all this raw talent might be too much to handle PS: Suppression must only be for MGs, and while we're at it give MGs a bipod that makes them deadly accurate. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsbTjPe2fsand no this is not me sadly in the vid...i only wish i had all this raw talent
this is real raw talent take notes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgcjH4SPU5I&list=UUrMw7rjGpYuAgJCv4UNI_WQ&index=21 |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:31:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:G-SLicK wrote:good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed so you're saying destruction and suppression made BF3 fail? I won't say the game failed though. In June BF3 sold 15 million copies...with it selling 5 million alone in the first week of release. Fail? No. Lack of dev support? Yes. Lack of clan support? Yes. You not adapting to BF3? Yes. No offense but it sounds like you fail on BF3.
watch my video...did i fail? |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
712
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:33:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:G-SLicK wrote:good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed so you're saying destruction and suppression made BF3 fail? I won't say the game failed though. In June BF3 sold 15 million copies...with it selling 5 million alone in the first week of release. Fail? No. Lack of dev support? Yes. Lack of clan support? Yes. You not adapting to BF3? Yes. No offense but it sounds like you fail on BF3. watch my video...did i fail?
Only at life.
Edit:Finished watching it, you succeed. |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
300
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:34:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:G-SLicK wrote:good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed so you're saying destruction and suppression made BF3 fail? I won't say the game failed though. In June BF3 sold 15 million copies...with it selling 5 million alone in the first week of release. Fail? No. Lack of dev support? Yes. Lack of clan support? Yes. You not adapting to BF3? Yes. No offense but it sounds like you fail on BF3. watch my video...did i fail?
haha, i think i found your battlelog. only a 3.17 kdr? kinda fail. GOML |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:37:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:G-SLicK wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:G-SLicK wrote:good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed so you're saying destruction and suppression made BF3 fail? I won't say the game failed though. In June BF3 sold 15 million copies...with it selling 5 million alone in the first week of release. Fail? No. Lack of dev support? Yes. Lack of clan support? Yes. You not adapting to BF3? Yes. No offense but it sounds like you fail on BF3. watch my video...did i fail? haha, i think i found your battlelog. only a 3.17 kdr? kinda fail. GOML yea after having a 4.5 kd for so long the game became boring as hell so i went on multiple suicide C4 runs.....fun times thanks for researching tho |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:38:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Yes i said it nubs, DUST needs to be the benchmark of military tactical gaming and thus needs a suppression effect ala BF dont believe me? just watch this vid and see how tactical this is, beware tho all this raw talent might be too much to handle PS: Suppression must only be for MGs, and while we're at it give MGs a bipod that makes them deadly accurate. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsbTjPe2fsand no this is not me sadly in the vid...i only wish i had all this raw talent this is real raw talent take notes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgcjH4SPU5I&list=UUrMw7rjGpYuAgJCv4UNI_WQ&index=21
that is talent but it would of been RAW if u suppressed the **** outta em tbh
i mean we have sunglare that affects our merc why not add suppression! |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
300
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:42:00 -
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highest kdr was 3.61, just saying,
on topic: i think this would be a great idea. this would really help heavies and add a whole new level in the game. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:57:00 -
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Anyway, there IS a form of suppression in this game. However, it only happens when you ACTUALLY HIT
First time I know of that I actually completely agree with G-slick |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:59:00 -
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We already get enough suppression effects. No need for more. |
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William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
318
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Posted - 2012.12.25 02:00:00 -
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Suppression is not a horrible idea...I would rather have smoke gernades if we want tactics. And speaking of the glare...that is dumb as 1972. I am sorry..I am wearing a suit that allows me to breathe and survive in harsh conditions but for some reason. I don't have glare protection....some things in this game just don't make sense. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 02:33:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Yes i said it nubs, DUST needs to be the benchmark of military tactical gaming and thus needs a suppression effect ala BF dont believe me? just watch this vid and see how tactical this is, beware tho all this raw talent might be too much to handle PS: Suppression must only be for MGs, and while we're at it give MGs a bipod that makes them deadly accurate. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsbTjPe2fsand no this is not me sadly in the vid...i only wish i had all this raw talent you do see the SARCASM in the video dont you?The guy is totally making fun of the suppression effect on bf3 not to mention he has suppression ON as his squad perk.I think you need to watch it again.
If you're serious about wanting this implemented I vote NO
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 02:36:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:Suppression is not a horrible idea...I would rather have smoke gernades if we want tactics. And speaking of the glare...that is dumb as 1972. I am sorry..I am wearing a suit that allows me to breathe and survive in harsh conditions but for some reason. I don't have glare protection....some things in this game just don't make sense. lol i was in a squad the other day and I said the same thing.You could walk/battle on some distant desert planet and your suit doesnt have a auto tint function like on todays eyeglasses.
If we are making comparisons between BF3 and DUST there needs to be WP for the scanning modules/skills acting like the spot function.100%agree with the lens flare part. To the OP Suppression no.OMG.Ok give me the skill for Unsurpressed like in that game and what do you have?No suppression, not suppressed.The more I read the more I think dumb. |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
143
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:02:00 -
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If you fire your gun at someone to prevent them from moving forward or to pin them down you are suppressing them. we don't need blury screens to represent this. It was a mistake in bf3. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:09:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:Suppression is not a horrible idea...I would rather have smoke gernades if we want tactics. And speaking of the glare...that is dumb as 1972. I am sorry..I am wearing a suit that allows me to breathe and survive in harsh conditions but for some reason. I don't have glare protection....some things in this game just don't make sense.
sunglare is awesome! i feel fully immersed on the planet im fighting on, such a kool fps mechanic
HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Yes i said it nubs, DUST needs to be the benchmark of military tactical gaming and thus needs a suppression effect ala BF dont believe me? just watch this vid and see how tactical this is, beware tho all this raw talent might be too much to handle PS: Suppression must only be for MGs, and while we're at it give MGs a bipod that makes them deadly accurate. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsbTjPe2fsand no this is not me sadly in the vid...i only wish i had all this raw talent you do see the SARCASM in the video dont you?The guy is totally making fun of the suppression effect on bf3 not to mention he has suppression ON as his squad perk.I think you need to watch it again. If you're serious about wanting this implemented I vote NO
that dude isnt sarcastic at all! he was being srs in that vid pointing out the tactical benefits of suppression using suppression as his squad perk was a great tactical move on his part, saw his role and chose to maximize the effect! such a brilliant person. yall randoms can learn a thing or 2 from this guy tbqh |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:11:00 -
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Rugman91 wrote:If you fire your gun at someone to prevent them from moving forward or to pin them down you are suppressing them. we don't need blury screens to represent this. It was a mistake in bf3. this man is right......THREAD IS STUPID |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:14:00 -
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Whatever bro you just want to play heavy with an HMG and have this implemented so you can use some dumbass game effect as an exploit. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:32:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Whatever bro you just want to play heavy with an HMG and have this implemented so you can use some dumbass game effect as an exploit.
i dont play heavy brah and never will too slow u just mad cuz i posted a topic about suppression that adds immersion and great tactical gameplay! |
Ribbons Reborns
Doomheim
68
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:33:00 -
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This popcorn be gud. *continues eating* |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:36:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:No for suppression mechanics. And that video looks like crap, his buddies are running in front of him getting hit in the legs and nothing seems to be happening. Plus, he's not even really aiming or attempting to aim. He's just randomly spraying and taking them out. No one does that because you'd in reality burn out the barrel.
of course hes not aiming didnt u watch the vid? aiming is for nerds |
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SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:37:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Yes i said it nubs, DUST needs to be the benchmark of military tactical gaming and thus needs a suppression effect ala BF dont believe me? just watch this vid and see how tactical this is, beware tho all this raw talent might be too much to handle PS: Suppression must only be for MGs, and while we're at it give MGs a bipod that makes them deadly accurate. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsbTjPe2fsand no this is not me sadly in the vid...i only wish i had all this raw talent lol'd |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:42:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Whatever bro you just want to play heavy with an HMG and have this implemented so you can use some dumbass game effect as an exploit. i dont play heavy brah and never will too slow u just mad cuz i posted a topic about suppression that adds immersion and great tactical gameplay! cool maybe we can have dumbass flash lights too... Dude in the video is 1st camping a hallway with a HMG 2 Has a bipod on his HMG 3 is laying prone 4 has suppression on 5 in that game he can resupply himself 6 is sitting on his resupply 7 there are only 2 ways to get past that section of METRO that hall way or the escalator. 8 is probably a server admin and boots anyone who kills him 9 plays WITH A HMG 10 really has no skill he probably was a flashlight pUSAS user before the patch 11really plays with an AR and made this video just to be a douche and to flame people 11 is TOTALLY BEING SARCASTIC AND POINTING OUT THE FAULTS OF THE GAME. HOW DO I KNOW THIS?I KNOW THE GUY WHO MADE THE VIDEO...ARE WE DONE HERE? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:44:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Whatever bro you just want to play heavy with an HMG and have this implemented so you can use some dumbass game effect as an exploit. i dont play heavy brah and never will too slow u just mad cuz i posted a topic about suppression that adds immersion and great tactical gameplay! cool maybe we can have dumbass flash lights too... Dude in the video is 1st camping a hallway with a HMG 2 Has a bipod on his HMG 3 is laying prone 4 has suppression on 5 in that game he can resupply himself 6 is sitting on his resupply 7 there are only 2 ways to get past that section of METRO that hall way or the escalator. 8 is probably a server admin and boots anyone who kills him 9 plays WITH A HMG 10 really has no skill he probably was a flashlight pUSAS user before the patch 11really plays with an AR and made this video just to be a douche and to flame people 11 is TOTALLY BEING SARCASTIC AND POINTING OUT THE FAULTS OF THE GAME. HOW DO I KNOW THIS?I KNOW THE GUY WHO MADE THE VIDEO...ARE WE DONE HERE?
flashlights?! YESSSS!!! we already have sunglare just imagine having a tactical light on ur gun to blind ur enemies. good thinking dude u wanna make the thread on the tact light or should i? |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:46:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Whatever bro you just want to play heavy with an HMG and have this implemented so you can use some dumbass game effect as an exploit. i dont play heavy brah and never will too slow u just mad cuz i posted a topic about suppression that adds immersion and great tactical gameplay! cool maybe we can have dumbass flash lights too... Dude in the video is 1st camping a hallway with a HMG 2 Has a bipod on his HMG 3 is laying prone 4 has suppression on 5 in that game he can resupply himself 6 is sitting on his resupply 7 there are only 2 ways to get past that section of METRO that hall way or the escalator. 8 is probably a server admin and boots anyone who kills him 9 plays WITH A HMG 10 really has no skill he probably was a flashlight pUSAS user before the patch 11really plays with an AR and made this video just to be a douche and to flame people 11 is TOTALLY BEING SARCASTIC AND POINTING OUT THE FAULTS OF THE GAME. HOW DO I KNOW THIS?I KNOW THE GUY WHO MADE THE VIDEO...ARE WE DONE HERE? flashlights?! YESSSS!!! we already have sunglare just imagine having a tactical light on ur gun to blind ur enemies. good thinking dude u wanna make the thread on the tact light or should i? seriously though can you imaginethe team kills this guy would have had had the server been friendly fire ON and without sounding to assholish You want all the bf3 **** in this game maybe you should go back to playing that game then. |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
143
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:48:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:
i dont play heavy brah and never will too slow u just mad cuz i posted a topic about suppression that adds immersion and great tactical gameplay!
Dude you seem to be using the words tactical and immersion very loosely The actual use of suppression as I stated above is tactical. burry screen not so much. Saying that such a mechanic is immersive is like saying the revive icons are immersive |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:49:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Needs a skill to up the suppression effect too! Suppression - raises suppression effect by 2% per lvl and Suppression proficiency raises suppression effect by 3% per lvl
such a grand idea and while we're at it have a skill called combat veteran that reduces suppression by 4% per lvl
Put this in the OP |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:50:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Whatever bro you just want to play heavy with an HMG and have this implemented so you can use some dumbass game effect as an exploit. i dont play heavy brah and never will too slow u just mad cuz i posted a topic about suppression that adds immersion and great tactical gameplay! cool maybe we can have dumbass flash lights too... Dude in the video is 1st camping a hallway with a HMG 2 Has a bipod on his HMG 3 is laying prone 4 has suppression on 5 in that game he can resupply himself 6 is sitting on his resupply 7 there are only 2 ways to get past that section of METRO that hall way or the escalator. 8 is probably a server admin and boots anyone who kills him 9 plays WITH A HMG 10 really has no skill he probably was a flashlight pUSAS user before the patch 11really plays with an AR and made this video just to be a douche and to flame people 11 is TOTALLY BEING SARCASTIC AND POINTING OUT THE FAULTS OF THE GAME. HOW DO I KNOW THIS?I KNOW THE GUY WHO MADE THE VIDEO...ARE WE DONE HERE? flashlights?! YESSSS!!! we already have sunglare just imagine having a tactical light on ur gun to blind ur enemies. good thinking dude u wanna make the thread on the tact light or should i? seriously though can you imaginethe team kills this guy would have had had the server been friendly fire ON
maybe ppl shouldnt get in the way of a legend like him then when hes providing suppressing fire if FF was on then poor awareness by the unskilled in that vid tbh dude should have a little icon above his head that signals "raw skill in the vicinity gtfo my way or get suppressed/mowed down!" would be so kool |
Ribbons Reborns
Doomheim
68
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Posted - 2012.12.25 03:51:00 -
[48] - Quote
This popcorn is amazing. I'm out of butter though, can anyone hook me up with some sarcasm? |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
143
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Posted - 2012.12.25 04:00:00 -
[49] - Quote
Can someone tell me if this guy is just trolling us? Seriously don't know. If so then well done and I hate you |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2012.12.25 04:28:00 -
[50] - Quote
If they seriously start taking a bunch of COD and BF mechanics and using them then this game really will fail. |
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Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.12.25 04:31:00 -
[51] - Quote
Frankly, if anything, then I think the suppression effect of MDs should just be removed and give them more blast radius and damage to compensate for that loss. It's kind of ridiculous when each shot from a grenade launcher creates a 6.0 earthquake on the Richter scale. |
Jarlaxle Xorlarrin
SyNergy Gaming
67
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Posted - 2012.12.25 04:35:00 -
[52] - Quote
LOLOLOL @ People taking this srs |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 04:50:00 -
[53] - Quote
Octavian Vetiver wrote:If they seriously start taking a bunch of COD and BF mechanics and using them then this game really will fail.
Suppression was one of the best things BF implemented! made u feel immersed like u were really in the battle when that awesome suppression effect hit u knew u had to get to cover or get suppressed on!
run an gun cod nubs will not like the high lvl of skill involved in proper suppression tactics and superior tactical positioning
@ Jar Jar yes im srs u should know im 100% always in srs mode. Shame on u. U remember back on BF i would try to emulate this guys talents but just didnt have the raw skill to handle the skillcannon it was then i knew this guy in this vid was clearly a legend |
Sparten 269
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.12.25 05:13:00 -
[54] - Quote
G-SLicK wrote:good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed
BF3 has sold about... 15mil copies, I don't call that a failure. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 05:15:00 -
[55] - Quote
Sparten 269 wrote:G-SLicK wrote:good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed BF3 has sold about... 15mil copies, I don't call that a failure.
dude knows wats up |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.12.25 05:17:00 -
[56] - Quote
no |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 05:37:00 -
[57] - Quote
please state a detailed reason why u are opposed to such an immersive feature |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.25 05:45:00 -
[58] - Quote
Sparten 269 wrote:G-SLicK wrote:good players dont need suppression to get the job done. shooting your enemy and damaging them is all the suppression we need. BF3 had destruction and suppression.....look how the game failed BF3 has sold about... 15mil copies, I don't call that a failure.
the game failed competitively, im a hardcore player and most of my friends are hardcore players. when a game fails to support competitive play it gets extremely boring and dried out. Most players/clans stopped playing BF3. Just because you see a game sold 15mill copies doesn't mean it continues to be a success. Just look at COD, how many of us believe its just one big fail? yet it continues to sale.
Also, the BF3 devs started to nerf everything because the core players were so good. They wanted to appeal more to the casual/noob crowd. This in turn drove away many of the players who played the most.
In other words, BF3 died.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2012.12.25 06:08:00 -
[59] - Quote
Suppression effects?
For bullets? Mmmmnnn... Naaaah.
For large missiles hitting nearby blasting debris and jolting people? ...Maybe? |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
335
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Posted - 2012.12.25 06:24:00 -
[60] - Quote
If numbz can troll people this community is going to be something special in release ..lol |
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Wicked Glory
Doomheim
171
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Posted - 2012.12.25 06:40:00 -
[61] - Quote
Yes please. Suppression and sunglare are absolutely necessary if CCP wants to make DUST successful. This game needs more realism and more skill and suppression and sunglare help with that. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 06:47:00 -
[62] - Quote
Wicked Glory wrote:Yes please. Suppression and sunglare are absolutely necessary if CCP wants to make DUST successful. This game needs more realism and more skill and suppression and sunglare help with that. Sir please put down the pipe...or pass it so i can get ont the same mental level as the OP
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Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2012.12.25 06:57:00 -
[63] - Quote
There is nothing realistic about the suppression effect. When a bullet goes by time doesn't slow down, you don't see shimmery waves in the air, and you also don't stand there like a moron shocked to the core because someone shot at you. Unless you really aren't the brightest spoon in the drawer and have never been shot at before. That suppression mechanic on that video looks simply ********. And the one poster was right, you can hype up a game to get 15million people to buy it. But if it's total junk then those people won't play it long. |
Regis Mk V
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:10:00 -
[64] - Quote
Not a fan of suppression but I see no issue in bipods. If someone wants to hunker down then let them Dust is supposed to offer you the freedom to play how you want. I still think prone should be allowed in the game it's not going to hurt and can be used as a tactical advantage. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:11:00 -
[65] - Quote
Octavian Vetiver wrote:There is nothing realistic about the suppression effect. When a bullet goes by time doesn't slow down, you don't see shimmery waves in the air, and you also don't stand there like a moron shocked to the core because someone shot at you. Unless you really aren't the brightest spoon in the drawer and have never been shot at before. That suppression mechanic on that video looks simply ********. And the one poster was right, you can hype up a game to get 15million people to buy it. But if it's total junk then those people won't play it long. or take it back to Game Stop and get store credit to buy the next POS fail FPS
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:13:00 -
[66] - Quote
yes
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:15:00 -
[67] - Quote
Regis Mk V wrote:Not a fan of suppression but I see no issue in bipods. If someone wants to hunker down then let them Dust is supposed to offer you the freedom to play how you want. I still think prone should be allowed in the game it's not going to hurt and can be used as a tactical advantage. Your not even on this game enough to even formulate and opinion much less contribute.Every thread Ive ever read of yours is to knock the game or talk about MAG.I thought you said you weren't ever going to play this game?Why are you back? Freedom to play how you want?I dont even see you in matches.Your not playing the game period.Ive never once heard the devs say Dust is about going prone.Still whining about going prone?Damn you're lame. |
axis alpha
Red Star.
30
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:24:00 -
[68] - Quote
will never happen |
Regis Mk V
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:24:00 -
[69] - Quote
HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Regis Mk V wrote:Not a fan of suppression but I see no issue in bipods. If someone wants to hunker down then let them Dust is supposed to offer you the freedom to play how you want. I still think prone should be allowed in the game it's not going to hurt and can be used as a tactical advantage. Your not even on this game enough to even formulate and opinion much less contribute.Every thread Ive ever read of yours is to knock the game or talk about MAG.I thought you said you weren't ever going to play this game?Why are you back? Freedom to play how you want?I dont even see you in matches.Your not playing the game period.Ive never once heard the devs say Dust is about going prone.Still whining about going prone?Damn you're lame.
LOL Wow you are funny just because you don't see me in game doesn't mean I don't play. Maybe I have different names I play under did you ever think about that? I've bought up prone on 1 occasion besides this one and it was months ago yet you are holding on to it like you have something over me... Get real please. Did I ever say CCP said hey you can have the freedom to go prone? NO But they did say you can have the freedom to play Dust how you want. So in my opinion prone should be an option can I live without it yep so stop holding on to old **** please and move on. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:25:00 -
[70] - Quote
Wicked Glory wrote:Yes please. Suppression and sunglare are absolutely necessary if CCP wants to make DUST successful. This game needs more realism and more skill and suppression and sunglare help with that.
Wicked knows wats up
Octavian Vetiver wrote:There is nothing realistic about the suppression effect. When a bullet goes by time doesn't slow down, you don't see shimmery waves in the air, and you also don't stand there like a moron shocked to the core because someone shot at you. Unless you really aren't the brightest spoon in the drawer and have never been shot at before. That suppression mechanic on that video looks simply ********. And the one poster was right, you can hype up a game to get 15million people to buy it. But if it's total junk then those people won't play it long.
sounds like u got suppressed one too many times on the superior tactical game! maybe u should go back to cod with ur run an gun tactics and let the real clans shine its ok i dont even have enough raw skill to pull off such amazing suppression tactics either.....im not even decent but i still try.... :(
HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Regis Mk V wrote:Not a fan of suppression but I see no issue in bipods. If someone wants to hunker down then let them Dust is supposed to offer you the freedom to play how you want. I still think prone should be allowed in the game it's not going to hurt and can be used as a tactical advantage. Your not even on this game enough to even formulate and opinion much less contribute.Every thread Ive ever read of yours is to knock the game or talk about MAG.I thought you said you weren't ever going to play this game?Why are you back? Freedom to play how you want?I dont even see you in matches.Your not playing the game period.Ive never once heard the devs say Dust is about going prone.Still whining about going prone?Damn you're lame.
please take ur off topic discussions somewhere else. this thread is about adding realism and more immersion to dust to make it a better game not only from a visual standpoint but also a more tactically sound game as well. Please contribute to the discussion but if u wish to talk about MAG may i humbly suggest u make another thread. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:28:00 -
[71] - Quote
Hated it in BF3 and thought it was silly. Especially when you get rewarded for missing.....so I strongly disapprove of suppression for dust |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:33:00 -
[72] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Hated it in BF3 and thought it was silly. Especially when you get rewarded for missing.....so I strongly disapprove of suppression for dust for missing the target.... plus 1 |
axis alpha
Red Star.
30
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:35:00 -
[73] - Quote
this game doesnt call for bs other fps have. i wish people would stop trying to make into something is was never meant to be . this game has the tactical point way past other fps to an accuracy thats just crazy. if you were to put suppression that would defeat the purpose of sp and the levels of skills you worked for. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:36:00 -
[74] - Quote
axis alpha wrote:this game doesnt call for bs other fps have. i wish people would stop trying to make into something is was never meant to be . this game has the tactical point way past other fps to an accuracy thats just crazy. if you were to put suppression that would defeat the purpose of sp and the levels of skills you worked for.
not if u have skills to buff and debuff the suppression effects! |
axis alpha
Red Star.
30
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:39:00 -
[75] - Quote
cant argue that. lol |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:41:00 -
[76] - Quote
TLDR;
Consoletrash trolling each other as to who is worst.
GGF
fwiw I ilke the harsh sun effects. It's ok with me if we have to adapt to harsh planets. htfu. You want grey corridor so your little nerd eyes can deal? |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
425
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:41:00 -
[77] - Quote
I hope most are joking about this. Suppression is the dumbest FPS effect ever, next to kill streaks.
Everybody saying they want more realism, then tanks should be super OP because they will actually be tanks, where missiles actually can lock onto targets and one shot everything. Because hey, 200k years in the future missile systems will be state of the art crazy. Also means drop ships will rule the skies and the ground. Rail guns will be able to shoot through buildings. There wouldn't be a need for infantry as vehicles will be so OP with realism. Lets not forget EVE players, with more realism they should be able to constantly bombard districts. Pretty much nullifying any reason to have Dust in the first place.
So everybody saying they want realism STFU and go play something else. You are the reason why this game has gone down the garbage drain. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:41:00 -
[78] - Quote
Regis Mk V wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Regis Mk V wrote:Not a fan of suppression but I see no issue in bipods. If someone wants to hunker down then let them Dust is supposed to offer you the freedom to play how you want. I still think prone should be allowed in the game it's not going to hurt and can be used as a tactical advantage. Your not even on this game enough to even formulate and opinion much less contribute.Every thread Ive ever read of yours is to knock the game or talk about MAG.I thought you said you weren't ever going to play this game?Why are you back? Freedom to play how you want?I dont even see you in matches.Your not playing the game period.Ive never once heard the devs say Dust is about going prone.Still whining about going prone?Damn you're lame. LOL Wow you are funny just because you don't see me in game doesn't mean I don't play. Maybe I have different names I play under did you ever think about that? I've bought up prone on 1 occasion besides this one and it was months ago yet you are holding on to it like you have something over me... Get real please. Did I ever say CCP said hey you can have the freedom to go prone? NO But they did say you can have the freedom to play Dust how you want. So in my opinion prone should be an option can I live without it yep so stop holding on to old **** please and move on. wow dude...all I can say is WOW.....your trolling for the sake of trolling .My post quotes yours you tool.Which says you want the ability to go prone.Which you have QQ'D about before.They are never going to allow that for reasons you dont understand because you dont play the game enough to understand them.Scout have the smallest Hit box if a scout went prone.And will say Gemcutter goes prone at 200 meters you wouldnt be able to hit him.Dust becomes Sniper 514.If the truth hurts bro all I can say is why did I get a like.
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Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:43:00 -
[79] - Quote
Mavado V Noriega wrote:Wicked Glory wrote:Yes please. Suppression and sunglare are absolutely necessary if CCP wants to make DUST successful. This game needs more realism and more skill and suppression and sunglare help with that. Wicked knows wats up Octavian Vetiver wrote:There is nothing realistic about the suppression effect. When a bullet goes by time doesn't slow down, you don't see shimmery waves in the air, and you also don't stand there like a moron shocked to the core because someone shot at you. Unless you really aren't the brightest spoon in the drawer and have never been shot at before. That suppression mechanic on that video looks simply ********. And the one poster was right, you can hype up a game to get 15million people to buy it. But if it's total junk then those people won't play it long. sounds like u got suppressed one too many times on the superior tactical game! maybe u should go back to cod with ur run an gun tactics and let the real clans shine its ok i dont even have enough raw skill to pull off such amazing suppression tactics either.....im not even decent but i still try.... :( HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Regis Mk V wrote:Not a fan of suppression but I see no issue in bipods. If someone wants to hunker down then let them Dust is supposed to offer you the freedom to play how you want. I still think prone should be allowed in the game it's not going to hurt and can be used as a tactical advantage. Your not even on this game enough to even formulate and opinion much less contribute.Every thread Ive ever read of yours is to knock the game or talk about MAG.I thought you said you weren't ever going to play this game?Why are you back? Freedom to play how you want?I dont even see you in matches.Your not playing the game period.Ive never once heard the devs say Dust is about going prone.Still whining about going prone?Damn you're lame. please take ur off topic discussions somewhere else. this thread is about adding realism and more immersion to dust to make it a better game not only from a visual standpoint but also a more tactically sound game as well. Please contribute to the discussion but if u wish to talk about MAG may i humbly suggest u make another thread.
No, I've been shot at for real unlike a lot of nimrods that consider BF and COD to be the height of realism towards actual combat. From the way you talk and act, you're either a teenager who has yet to get out of his parents house or armchair general that watches some movies and reads a few books and automatically thinks they know everything there is to know about actual warfare. In other words, you're a tool. |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:48:00 -
[80] - Quote
For a second I thought you're serious. Anyway, as a Battlefield 3 player I have to say that suppresion isn't as bad as people make it out. As long as you balance it right (and they eventually did), it works well for the game. If you fire first you should have the upper hand, and suppresion is the best way to do it. |
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Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:53:00 -
[81] - Quote
ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:For a second I thought you're serious. Anyway, as a Battlefield 3 player I have to say that suppresion isn't as bad as people make it out. As long as you balance it right (and they eventually did), it works well for the game. If you fire first you should have the upper hand, and suppresion is the best way to do it.
You are trash.
Hit your targets don't ******* whine for **** you missed. |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
425
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:53:00 -
[82] - Quote
ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:For a second I thought you're serious. Anyway, as a Battlefield 3 player I have to say that suppresion isn't as bad as people make it out. As long as you balance it right (and they eventually did), it works well for the game. If you fire first you should have the upper hand, and suppresion is the best way to do it. Please delete the game from your hard drive. The dust community IQ will raise with your departure. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:56:00 -
[83] - Quote
ok so the OP wants Supperession then there would be a skill to offset this...so essentially all you want to do is add another fking skill and have the new player even more confused that he needs to buy this skill so his screen stops getting blurry...again DUMB. The game will have other COOL skills added example MTACS and MCC skills with out adding lame **** like this. |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:57:00 -
[84] - Quote
HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:ok so the OP wants Supperession then there would be a skill to offset this...so essentially all you want to do is add another fking skill and have the new player even more confused that he needs to buy this skill so his screen stops getting blurry...again DUMB. The game will have other COOL skills added example MTACS and MCC skills with out adding lame **** like this.
LOL YOU GODDAMN BADDIES
THIS WAS A TROLL THREAD DUMBSHIT
in other news - GGF Mavado |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:59:00 -
[85] - Quote
Telcontar Dunedain wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:ok so the OP wants Supperession then there would be a skill to offset this...so essentially all you want to do is add another fking skill and have the new player even more confused that he needs to buy this skill so his screen stops getting blurry...again DUMB. The game will have other COOL skills added example MTACS and MCC skills with out adding lame **** like this. LOL YOU GODDAMN BADDIES THIS WAS A TROLL THREAD DUMBSHIT Troll thread or not doesnt matter if its up here and people read it it gets the point across that this is a bad idea.
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Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:02:00 -
[86] - Quote
Mavado V Noriega wrote:Yes i said it nubs, DUST needs to be the benchmark of military tactical gaming and thus needs a suppression effect ala BF dont believe me? just watch this vid and see how tactical this is, beware tho all this raw talent might be too much to handle PS: Suppression must only be for MGs, and while we're at it give MGs a bipod that makes them deadly accurate. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsbTjPe2fsand no this is not me sadly in the vid...i only wish i had all this raw talent
You suck. I warned you, baddies are taking this serious... **** you for trolling these retards :P |
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:04:00 -
[87] - Quote
Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:If numbz can troll people this community is going to be something special in release ..lol
Yeah holy crap, i was going to play along but geezes people.... its SATIRE!
However, good to see how the responses went with many people rallying against nums, it served its purpose in highlighting the ridiculousness of people who would try to push dust, both within CCP and in the community, in that direction.
People may say this thread was rude/pointless/just stupid trolling, but it showed results and highlighted an issue with people that keep stressing 'immersion' and 'tactical gameplay' without really understands whats tactical about competitive FPS, and without understanding the line when immersion can become overbearing for balance reasons. |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:08:00 -
[88] - Quote
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:If numbz can troll people this community is going to be something special in release ..lol Yeah holy crap, i was going to play along but geezes people.... its SATIRE! However, good to see how the responses went with many people rallying against nums, it served its purpose in highlighting the ridiculousness of people who would try to push dust, both within CCP and in the community, in that direction. People may say this thread was rude/pointless/just stupid trolling, but it showed results and highlighted an issue with people that keep stressing 'immersion' and 'tactical gameplay' without really understands whats tactical about competitive FPS, and without understanding the line when immersion can become overbearing for balance reasons.
This community cries constantly, GFYS for posting thoughtful threads with these morons. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:32:00 -
[89] - Quote
Lol.....you guys are nuts. |
Noraa Anderson
Nox Aeterna Security
184
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:40:00 -
[90] - Quote
Hang on, hang on!
I think suppression could work but it would have to be handled carefully. First of all only high rates of sustained fire from the HMG or a Blaster Turret OR the combined effort of 3 assault rifle users/4 submachine gunners should be able to cause the effect.
Secondly the effect should only become more pronounced depending on the targets total DS meta level. An immortal in a crapfit or a starterfit probably isn't going to feel much sense of fear as they have nothing to lose except the one battle. Someone geared up with the latest proto-techno thingy DS and carrying a gun worth 100x it's weight in ISK might get a little worried should they come under such intensive fire. |
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Wicked Glory
Doomheim
171
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:42:00 -
[91] - Quote
Mavado V Noriega wrote:Wicked Glory wrote:Yes please. Suppression and sunglare are absolutely necessary if CCP wants to make DUST successful. This game needs more realism and more skill and suppression and sunglare help with that. Wicked knows wats up I got your back bro. We'll make DUST just as good as BF3. CCP just needs to listen. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:43:00 -
[92] - Quote
No what this was IS a very lame way for losers to QQ about muzzle climb on there full auto TACS
TO;Victor" Life Line"Ramos |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:45:00 -
[93] - Quote
Noraa Anderson wrote:Hang on, hang on!
I think suppression could work but it would have to be handled carefully. First of all only high rates of sustained fire from the HMG or a Blaster Turret OR the combined effort of 3 assault rifle users/4 submachine gunners should be able to cause the effect.
Secondly the effect should only become more pronounced depending on the targets total DS meta level. An immortal in a crapfit or a starterfit probably isn't going to feel much sense of fear as they have nothing to lose except the one battle. Someone geared up with the latest proto-techno thingy DS and carrying a gun worth 100x it's weight in ISK might get a little worried should they come under such intensive fire.
Please stuff yourself down the nearest garbage disposal. |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:46:00 -
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Wicked Glory wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Wicked Glory wrote:Yes please. Suppression and sunglare are absolutely necessary if CCP wants to make DUST successful. This game needs more realism and more skill and suppression and sunglare help with that. Wicked knows wats up I got your back bro. We'll make DUST just as good as BF3. CCP just needs to listen.
Crymoar about sunflare...
I'm sure that's why you died the last 10x? |
Noraa Anderson
Nox Aeterna Security
184
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:55:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Please stuff yourself down the nearest garbage disposal.
No |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:59:00 -
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Noraa Anderson wrote:Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Please stuff yourself down the nearest garbage disposal. No
You know you want it... |
Noraa Anderson
Nox Aeterna Security
184
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Posted - 2012.12.25 09:09:00 -
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It would certainly accompany the ton of lense flare/lighting glare used in the game already. Can't wait for the game to be doused in bloom and given a strong colour filter. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.12.25 10:08:00 -
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The sun flare is a terrain feature a smart player can use to his advantage, same thing on a flashlight is op and makes in hard for anyone you are firing at to return fire.
We have suppression already, people see tracer shoot by they take cover. This is how it works in real life, peoples eyes don't blur when bullets go by. They take cover to avoid being shot.
Giving war points for missing seems like it would be a easy way to spam orbitals like the vehicle repair points were before fixed, bad idea.
When we get attachments/rigs/whatever ccp calls them, a bipod to enable prone could work. Smaller target, less mobility, limited field of fire, and reduced recoil sound like they could be balanced well enough to make it a play style choice to use weapons with or without a bipod.
The mass driver/explosion effect seems like a good feature to me, but I think the amount it throws off aim is to much right now. A milder version would be perfect, in my opinion at least. If anything blurred vision it should be explosives, not missed shots. |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.25 10:41:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:For a second I thought you're serious. Anyway, as a Battlefield 3 player I have to say that suppresion isn't as bad as people make it out. As long as you balance it right (and they eventually did), it works well for the game. If you fire first you should have the upper hand, and suppresion is the best way to do it. You are trash. Hit your targets don't ******* whine for **** you missed. A. Sorry for having an opinion B. Who said I'm missing? If a single bullet misses (and don't tell me you don't miss a single bullet in medium range encounters) then the guy is surpressed.
Omnipotens Zitro wrote:ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:For a second I thought you're serious. Anyway, as a Battlefield 3 player I have to say that suppresion isn't as bad as people make it out. As long as you balance it right (and they eventually did), it works well for the game. If you fire first you should have the upper hand, and suppresion is the best way to do it. Please delete the game from your hard drive. The dust community IQ will raise with your departure.
Delete your brain, that should raise the average IQ of the world AND we would get a nice and calm conversation. If you have a different opinion, explain why I'm wrong instead of saying I'm an idiot and not explaining why. You won't get anywhere if you act like this. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.12.25 10:51:00 -
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A FPS without suppression is not even decent. Am I doing it right? |
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Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2012.12.25 11:01:00 -
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Wow this thread is special... and I dont mean warm, fuzzy feel good special.
This thread is wearing a helmet and licking the windows of the forum special. Shame on you for participating in it.
This one's for all of you! |
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GM Kitten
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.25 11:34:00 -
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This thread locked for trolling and inappropriate language. |
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