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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:17:00 -
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Seriously.
I get people telling me a new Dust build just came out that's supposed to smooth out the gameplay and fix the lag.
Wow! Really? Maybe this game will be fun to play after all! I open up Dust 514 for the first time in months and download the patch. This game has had several builds to get things fixed.
Upon opening my dropsuit selection the game begins stuttering. I feel like I'm running Crysis on a Super Nintendo as I attempt to perform the simple task of editing my loadouts, a feeling I've had since I was invited to this beta half a year ago, multiple builds ago. Hell even before logging into the game the flyby over the spaceship at the character selection screen was skipping frames every 5 seconds.
Of course after stuttering through the menus I already knew what to expect. The game plays no differently. Micro-freezes are a regular occurrence and the framerate is never stable as the outdated PS3 hardware struggles to load the ultra-HD industry standard 16x16 textures of Dust 514 that you've become so accustomed to. I get hit from 2 miles away by an invisible sniper hiding in the hills in the outskirts of the map. I hide behind a supply depot and, **** you not, wait about 10 seconds for my shields to finally recharge, before coming out only to get shot at by another sniper hiding in the most remote regions of the map. I'm having so much fun already. I love getting shot by invisible people who are invulnerable to taking damage (did I mention that the max range of assault rifles is about 3 meters?) then waiting half a minute just for my shields to recharge again!
Capturing objectives is still a slow and tedious process. The second a heavy spawns you know you are screwed because the ridiculous rate of fire on their guns drop you about 14 times faster than you can drop them (giving the most armored enemies access to the most powerful weapons is a great idea!). You can't see anything other than a pixelated hologram in your face and can only hope that nobody spawns behind you as you wait about 4 minutes to capture an objective standing out in the open vulnerable to fire from every direction.
Gunplay sucks. The large open maps combined with the lowish amount of players makes finding a fair fight difficult. Players have so much health that it takes about 2 hours to kill somebody. The animations are awkward and slow and you feel like an old man running through jello. You sprint at turtle-speed and a couple bunny hops are enough to completely drain your stamina. The maps are a barren wasteland, not only making the snipers more annoying but turning CQC gunfights into a spray-n-pray tango between two players until whoever happens to be using the better gun finally gets the kill. Even when you do manage to find decent gunfight with a similarly equipped opponent in an area that actually has some well-placed cover and are at the most optimal distance for your weapons, you're probably gonna end up getting shot at by some invisible sniper up in the hills.
These are just a few examples of whats wrong with this game. So disappointing. I actually prefer playing Call of Duty over this. Hey, it takes no skill but it's still fun, way more exciting than this game can hope to be. Dust maybe takes a little skill (little, VERY little skill, and I'm being generous), but it's not fun. It's not fun at all. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:19:00 -
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Enjoy it or GTFO! |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:21:00 -
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adapt of die!!!! |
Wicked Glory
Doomheim
171
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:21:00 -
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Yup. Played for the first time in a while today. Game is still ****. |
Lasarte Ioni
Noob Gaming
72
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:26:00 -
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well, at least it wasn't as disappointing as Killzone 2... |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:28:00 -
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I played for several hours last night and the games I was in were amazingly smooth. It's a HUGE improvement over the last build in terms of playability and smoother frame-rate.
Yes, the menus are still stuttery, but what counts for me is the smoother in-game playability. It was a luxury I got only a handful of times in the last build. I just hope it lasts. |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
425
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:43:00 -
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From what I read is that "I have absolutely no skill at this game! because I'm not good at this game that's why this game sucks! Waaaaaaaaaahhhhh waaaahhhhhhh!!"
I got two words for you: Get Good!
K thanks bye! |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
242
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:46:00 -
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Omnipotens Zitro wrote:From what I read is that "I have absolutely no skill at this game! because I'm not good at this game that's why this game sucks! Waaaaaaaaaahhhhh waaaahhhhhhh!!" I got two words for you: Get Good! K thanks bye!
A lot of people are going to be laughing at you. |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
242
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:53:00 -
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It really sucks that the only feedback CCP is getting is from a few misinformed fanboys who are still active on these forums. It sucks that most people who thought this game was trash (and there's a lot of them) never bothered giving their feedback here to counter what the small handful of regulars here are spewing out. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:15:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: I open up Dust 514 for the first time in months your thread is void and as such your opinion is void.
Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:A lot of people are going to be laughing at you. we are laughing at you Moejoe Omnipotent
Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:It really sucks that the only feedback CCP is getting is from a few misinformed fanboys who are still active on these forums. active on the forums and the game, unlike you play moar, kitten less |
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DTOracle
Universal Allies Inc.
95
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:21:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Omnipotens Zitro wrote:From what I read is that "I have absolutely no skill at this game! because I'm not good at this game that's why this game sucks! Waaaaaaaaaahhhhh waaaahhhhhhh!!" I got two words for you: Get Good! K thanks bye! A lot of people are going to be laughing at you. Actually, your the one we're laughing at. If you don't like it fine, don't play it. Dust like Eve will not appeal to everyone, & nor should it. & if you call your OP feedback, you are mistaken. This is classic QQing. |
VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
135
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:24:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Seriously.
I get people telling me a new Dust build just came out that's supposed to smooth out the gameplay and fix the lag.
Wow! Really? Maybe this game will be fun to play after all! I open up Dust 514 for the first time in months and download the patch. This game has had several builds to get things fixed.
Upon opening my dropsuit selection the game begins stuttering. I feel like I'm running Crysis on a Super Nintendo as I attempt to perform the simple task of editing my loadouts, a feeling I've had since I was invited to this beta half a year ago, multiple builds ago. Hell even before logging into the game the flyby over the spaceship at the character selection screen was skipping frames every 5 seconds.
Of course after stuttering through the menus I already knew what to expect. The game plays no differently. Micro-freezes are a regular occurrence and the framerate is never stable as the outdated PS3 hardware struggles to load the ultra-HD industry standard 16x16 textures of Dust 514 that you've become so accustomed to. I get hit from 2 miles away by an invisible sniper hiding in the hills in the outskirts of the map. I hide behind a supply depot and, **** you not, wait about 10 seconds for my shields to finally recharge, before coming out only to get shot at by another sniper hiding in the most remote regions of the map. I'm having so much fun already. I love getting shot by invisible people who are invulnerable to taking damage (did I mention that the max range of assault rifles is about 3 meters?) then waiting half a minute just for my shields to recharge again!
Capturing objectives is still a slow and tedious process. The second a heavy spawns you know you are screwed because the ridiculous rate of fire on their guns drop you about 14 times faster than you can drop them (giving the most armored enemies access to the most powerful weapons is a great idea!). You can't see anything other than a pixelated hologram in your face and can only hope that nobody spawns behind you as you wait about 4 minutes to capture an objective.
Gunplay sucks. The large open maps combined with the lowish amount of players makes finding a fair fight difficult. Players have so much health that it takes about 2 hours to kill somebody. The animations are awkward and slow and you feel like an old man running through jello. You sprint at turtle-speed and a couple bunny hops are enough to completely drain your stamina. The maps are a barren wasteland, not only making the snipers more annoying but turning CQC gunfights into a spray-n-pray tango between two players until whoever happens to be using the better gun finally gets the kill. Even when you do manage to find decent gunfight with a similarly equipped opponent in an area that actually has some well-placed cover and are at the most optimal distance for your weapons, you're probably gonna end up getting shot at by some invisible sniper up in the hills.
So disappointing. I actually prefer playing Call of Duty over this. Hey, it takes no skill but it's still fun, way more exciting than this game can hope to be. Dust maybe takes a little skill (little, VERY little skill, and I'm being generous), but it's not fun. It's not fun at all.
I read this as "I havent played in forever, all my loadouts suck, I spent no time in this game, I suck, therefore the game sucks"
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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
242
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:34:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: I open up Dust 514 for the first time in months your thread is void and as such your opinion is void. Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:A lot of people are going to be laughing at you. we are laughing at you Moejoe Omnipotent Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:It really sucks that the only feedback CCP is getting is from a few misinformed fanboys who are still active on these forums. active on the forums and the game, unlike you play moar, kitten less
So is this the plan? We're going to attract and keep players by telling them to play more? You know, don't worry about first impressions, don't worry if the game isn't fun. Just play more! You'll find it fun! Eventually!
You guys just got used to the mediocrity of this game. There are few other people who are willing to do this. I was willing to do this during the first build but not anymore. I gave this game more than enough time to get things straight.
If I were a Dust supporter I wouldn't try calling out my experience with this game or skill with shooters. You will only regret this in the long run. |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
30
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:34:00 -
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Whenever I read some one complaining about the textures I am convinced they have no idea what a beta is. When it gets to a 1.0 release and the issue still persists then there is cause for concern. But, since it is build 0.7 people need to do some research on what a beta for games actually means.
The stuttering sounds weird. Haven't experienced any stuttering issues since the update. What are the quarters like? Stuttery? Any of the other menus? |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:41:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:It really sucks that the only feedback CCP is getting is from a few misinformed fanboys who are still active on these forums. It sucks that most people who thought this game was trash (and there's a lot of them) never bothered giving their feedback here to counter what the small handful of regulars here are spewing out.
They used to post regularly but have given up , can't blame them tbh you post anything negative and well you know what to expect.
I don't play much anymore, tried the new build today (4 games) and it's just the same as the previous one boreing.
Let the fans enjoy it's not worth the effort trying to say any different or point out flaws. |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
242
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:42:00 -
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Cinnamon267 wrote:Whenever I read some one complaining about the textures I am convinced they have no idea what a beta is. When it gets to a 1.0 release and the issue still persists then there is cause for concern. But, since it is build 0.7 people need to do some research on what a beta for games actually means.
The stuttering sounds weird. Haven't experienced any stuttering issues since the update. What are the quarters like? Stuttery? Any of the other menus?
The quarters don't stutter like the menus but the FPS can still get choppy which is pretty strange. Even in a small closed room the game seems to struggle to hold 30 FPS.
Yes well all realize this is a beta. I'm sure the graphics will be beautiful by the fast approaching public release of this game even after 6 months of little progress.
Just a thought, the lag may have something to do with the size of your contacts list. I know Black Ops 2 has freezing issues on the PS3 version when you're getting constant notifications from the XBM. |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
30
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:43:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: You guys just got used to the mediocrity of this game. There are few other people who are willing to do this. I was willing to do this during the first build but not anymore. I gave this game more than enough time to get things straight.
If I were a Dust supporter I wouldn't try calling out my experience with this game or skill with shooters. You will only regret this in the long run.
"Used" is a strange term. You seem to think your experiences offer an objective view of the game. Play any multi-player game months after not playing it and you'll, initially, have a crappy experience. Except Call of Duty. But, that's a game where you have infinite lives and hyper laser accuracy.
Check the game out again when it's at 1.0 release. Or when the open beta starts. |
Sparten 269
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:44:00 -
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This http://zamolxismd.org/m/funkyimg.com/u2/1796/209/563088TheRoomFullOfPeopleWhoCare.jpg |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:49:00 -
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Lasarte Ioni wrote:well, at least it wasn't as disappointing as Killzone 2...
KZ2 >>>> KZ3 |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:51:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Seriously.
I get people telling me a new Dust build just came out that's supposed to smooth out the gameplay and fix the lag.
Wow! Really? Maybe this game will be fun to play after all! I open up Dust 514 for the first time in months and download the patch. This game has had several builds to get things fixed.
Upon opening my dropsuit selection the game begins stuttering. I feel like I'm running Crysis on a Super Nintendo as I attempt to perform the simple task of editing my loadouts, a feeling I've had since I was invited to this beta half a year ago, multiple builds ago. Hell even before logging into the game the flyby over the spaceship at the character selection screen was skipping frames every 5 seconds.
Of course after stuttering through the menus I already knew what to expect. The game plays no differently. Micro-freezes are a regular occurrence and the framerate is never stable as the outdated PS3 hardware struggles to load the ultra-HD industry standard 16x16 textures of Dust 514 that you've become so accustomed to. I get hit from 2 miles away by an invisible sniper hiding in the hills in the outskirts of the map. I hide behind a supply depot and, **** you not, wait about 10 seconds for my shields to finally recharge, before coming out only to get shot at by another sniper hiding in the most remote regions of the map. I'm having so much fun already. I love getting shot by invisible people who are invulnerable to taking damage (did I mention that the max range of assault rifles is about 3 meters?) then waiting half a minute just for my shields to recharge again!
Capturing objectives is still a slow and tedious process. The second a heavy spawns you know you are screwed because the ridiculous rate of fire on their guns drop you about 14 times faster than you can drop them (giving the most armored enemies access to the most powerful weapons is a great idea!). You can't see anything other than a pixelated hologram in your face and can only hope that nobody spawns behind you as you wait about 4 minutes to capture an objective.
Gunplay sucks. The large open maps combined with the lowish amount of players makes finding a fair fight difficult. Players have so much health that it takes about 2 hours to kill somebody. The animations are awkward and slow and you feel like an old man running through jello. You sprint at turtle-speed and a couple bunny hops are enough to completely drain your stamina. The maps are a barren wasteland, not only making the snipers more annoying but turning CQC gunfights into a spray-n-pray tango between two players until whoever happens to be using the better gun finally gets the kill. Even when you do manage to find decent gunfight with a similarly equipped opponent in an area that actually has some well-placed cover and are at the most optimal distance for your weapons, you're probably gonna end up getting shot at by some invisible sniper up in the hills.
So disappointing. I actually prefer playing Call of Duty over this. Hey, it takes no skill but it's still fun, way more exciting than this game can hope to be. Dust maybe takes a little skill (little, VERY little skill, and I'm being generous), but it's not fun. It's not fun at all.
Just stop playing video games. We dont need you here :) |
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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
242
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:52:00 -
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Cinnamon267 wrote: "Used" is a strange term. You seem to think your experiences offer an objective view of the game. Play any multi-player game months after not playing it and you'll, initially, have a crappy experience. Except Call of Duty. But, that's a game where you have infinite lives and hyper laser accuracy.
Check the game out again when it's at 1.0 release. Or when the open beta starts.
I probably will. I don't expect much improvement if this was supposed to be the big fix-it build before the open beta. I don't think you guys should be too hopeful either if CCP doesn't take feedback outside of these forums into serious consideration. I think the positive energy on these forums is a bit misleading. |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:54:00 -
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The game doesn't run smooth, it runs better, but certainly not smooth. You honestly hit the nail on the head mojo, people that have kept habitually playing this game are blind to the poor programming bc they don't know any better at this point
Don't try to argue with the 24/7 players bc they've invested enough real cash and time to be dominant on the battlefield with little to know effort. They can't see past their own KDR to realize this game is still a huge cluster After years of CCP effort. |
Gigolocalypse
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.12.20 03:57:00 -
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Well you get more out the game the more you put into it. I sucked hardcore first time I played and it wasn't totally to blame on the lag of the build I started playin on. Now I'm a pretty descent sniper who thoroughly enjoys when you hide behind a rock and decide its a good idea to run the same direction I sniped you from originally. If you'd take time to play more and better your character and know where the sniper nests are on each map, I'd kindly let you sneak up on me and shoot me straight to hell for having laid you out 5x. Like any game, playing makes you better. This game requires active playing to rack up SP to make your merc godly by strengthening up a skillset.
I do like this current build as it has far less lags as the last build. I'd get one mini-lag at the time of spawning but until I got wasted I didn't get much lag as the first build. And I like the the adjustment of the weight of my character. The movements feel more smooth and I know I will prolly have to re-adjust to this as I played quite a bit of the old build. So give the game more of your time and find better rocks to hide behind or just leave the game alone and move on. |
DTOracle
Universal Allies Inc.
95
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Posted - 2012.12.20 04:01:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:It really sucks that the only feedback CCP is getting is from a few misinformed fanboys who are still active on these forums. It sucks that most people who thought this game was trash (and there's a lot of them) never bothered giving their feedback here to counter what the small handful of regulars here are spewing out. They used to post regularly but have given up , can't blame them tbh you post anything negative and well you know what to expect. I don't play much anymore, tried the new build today (4 games) and it's just the same as the previous one boreing. Let the fans enjoy it's not worth the effort trying to say any different or point out flaws. How about posting something 'constructive' vs 'negative'. It's often not what you say, but how you say it, that's important. Just a thought. |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
242
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Posted - 2012.12.20 04:02:00 -
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Gigolocalypse wrote:Well you get more out the game the more you put into it. I sucked hardcore first time I played and it wasn't totally to blame on the lag of the build I started playin on. Now I'm a pretty descent sniper who thoroughly enjoys when you hide behind a rock and decide its a good idea to run the same direction I sniped you from originally. If you'd take time to play more and better your character and know where the sniper nests are on each map, I'd kindly let you sneak up on me and shoot me straight to hell for having laid you out 5x. Like any game, playing makes you better. This game requires active playing to rack up SP to make your merc godly by strengthening up a skillset.
I do like this current build as it has far less lags as the last build. I'd get one mini-lag at the time of spawning but until I got wasted I didn't get much lag as the first build. And I like the the adjustment of the weight of my character. The movements feel more smooth and I know I will prolly have to re-adjust to this as I played quite a bit of the old build. So give the game more of your time and find better rocks to hide behind or just leave the game alone and move on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRBcjsOt0_g
Snipers were poorly implemented into this game.
This build may lag less than the last one but that's really not saying much. This game still lags and it lags hard (and as someone else has stated elsewhere, the slow and awkward animations and player movement may be contributing to this perceived lag). |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.12.20 04:24:00 -
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You play CoD. You're sick. If you think CoD is better than this, kill yourself. I've been playing BO II after getting it from a friend. Terrible graphics, disgusting spawns, ridiculous 2 shots to kill anyone with SMG across the 4 inch map. But idiots like you eat it up every year. F*** off your feedback is unneeded. Also go get a Wii. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.12.20 04:24:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:It really sucks that the only feedback CCP is getting is from a few misinformed fanboys who are still active on these forums. It sucks that most people who thought this game was trash (and there's a lot of them) never bothered giving their feedback here to counter what the small handful of regulars here are spewing out. They used to post regularly but have given up , can't blame them tbh you post anything negative and well you know what to expect. I don't play much anymore, tried the new build today (4 games) and it's just the same as the previous one boreing. Let the fans enjoy it's not worth the effort trying to say any different or point out flaws. How about posting something 'constructive' vs 'negative'. It's often not what you say, but how you say it, that's important. Just a thought.
Tried it still get the same response, gtfo, bye, can I haz your stuff, or the ever it's beta.
Been here a long time but the fansboys are getting more blind by the build, don't even see templar two bother trying post about the poor advances and flaws any more even he gave up.
I just pop on to state the obvious from time to time, dust will have a small player base after the initial newness wears off and will suit some but even that will become stale when new players realise they have to live this game to be able to compete. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.12.20 04:28:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:You play CoD. You're sick. If you think CoD is better than this, kill yourself. I've been playing BO II after getting it from a friend. Terrible graphics, disgusting spawns, ridiculous 2 shots to kill anyone with SMG across the 4 inch map. But idiots like you eat it up every year. F*** off your feedback is unneeded. Also go get a Wii.
lol another unbiased opinion with mature input if you dont like dust you must play cod |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.12.20 04:32:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:You play CoD. You're sick. If you think CoD is better than this, kill yourself. I've been playing BO II after getting it from a friend. Terrible graphics, disgusting spawns, ridiculous 2 shots to kill anyone with SMG across the 4 inch map. But idiots like you eat it up every year. F*** off your feedback is unneeded. Also go get a Wii. lol another unbiased opinion with mature input if you dont like dust you must play cod
In OP he states he does play it, also I'm sick of his bull **** in Local Chat. |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.12.20 04:33:00 -
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I want to see the results of that questionnaire a couple of months ago. Did it give CCP a wake up call and give them a more accurate opinion of non-forum warriors really thought of the game?
Saying anything bad will get you flamed in this forum but hey, only the IRC channel matters anyway with 3 people having direct comma with the developers |
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