DUST Search - Laser rifles finally untouchable at distance

The dark cloud wrote:

G-SLicK wrote:

"pro"-tube is what we call it now cause it takes skill, i think you were the tank driver that ran to his spawn and camped every match you played against me right? and also missile spammed with droships? talk about a "*****"-noob

Tanks? I barely use them anymore cause they are just not effective anymore. And lol skill with mass driver you probs run up somebody at 10m distance and then start spamming with a assault mass driver which has more blast radius then missile launchers ever had. I bet you simply climb up a building and start spamming them from above like a scrub. And since when is the laser rifle considered a easy mode gun? You need to aim with it and keep it on target. While with a mass driver you just shot somewhere next to a enemy and still get a hit. And yeh i spammed dropships nothing wrong about that. Allways using that what works the best or simple sayd:
i adapt and doesnt die.
Now have fun with your mass driver cause your TAC AR+Modded controller combo has beeing rendered useless.

WASTED MONEY

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The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.12.20 01:35:00 - [1] - Quote Oh yes i start to like how CCP is handling things. Cause of recoil and iron sights AR's are no longer capable to counter Laser rifles from distance . Evil thing is that this game became a giant hunt for me and you AR guys are my prey. When some AR guy shots me from distance i turn around and kill him for his insolence. And dont say that the laser rifle should have recoil thats just silly cause its a laser. Oh and have fun with your Tac AR
Sandromin Hes Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 204	Posted - 2012.12.20 01:36:00 - [2] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Oh yes i start to like how CCP is handling things. Cause of recoil and iron sights AR's are no longer capable to counter Laser rifles from distance . Evil thing is that this game became a giant hunt for me and you AR guys are my prey. When some AR guy shots me from distance i turn around and kill him for his insolence. And dont say that the laser rifle should have recoil thats just silly cause its a laser. Oh and have fun with your Tac AR Haven't seen you in-game yet. I'll be sure to eat your tears when I'm done. Lol
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2046	Posted - 2012.12.20 01:36:00 - [3] - Quote um, snipers?
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.12.20 01:37:00 - [4] - Quote Sandromin Hes wrote: Haven't seen you in-game yet. I'll be sure to eat your tears when I'm done. Lol Good luck you will need it. Be it heavys, Vk.1 suits i melt everything. And depends if you see me in a match or not cause im on the EU server. Sleepy Zan wrote: um, snipers? Sure try to find a position on ambush without getting murdered instantly.
Lasarte Ioni Noob Gaming 72	Posted - 2012.12.20 01:47:00 - [5] - Quote Dunno why your talking about the laser rifle when u can probably nuke ppl from orbit with the bursts of your e-pen1s...
G-SLicK Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 185	Posted - 2012.12.20 01:59:00 - [6] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Oh yes i start to like how CCP is handling things. Cause of recoil and iron sights AR's are no longer capable to counter Laser rifles from distance . Evil thing is that this game became a giant hunt for me and you AR guys are my prey. When some AR guy shots me from distance i turn around and kill him for his insolence. And dont say that the laser rifle should have recoil thats just silly cause its a laser. Oh and have fun with your Tac AR lasers are easy mode, wait till you get a taste of my mass driver. GET GOOD
Dissonant Zan 157	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:01:00 - [7] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: um, snipers? Sure try to find a position on ambush without getting murdered instantly. In your face
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:08:00 - [8] - Quote G-SLicK wrote: lasers are easy mode, wait till you get a taste of my mass driver. GET GOOD On MW2 we called it "n00b tube" for the simple reason that even a n00b can use a grenade launcher.
G-SLicK Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 185	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:12:00 - [9] - Quote "pro"-tube is what we call it now cause it takes skill, i think you were the tank driver that ran to his spawn and camped every match you played against me right? and also missile spammed with droships? talk about a "*****"-noob
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:23:00 - [10] - Quote Haven't given my laser a go yet on the new build, I've been having too much fun with the Exile, new aiming feel, and iron-sights. Honestly I like the feel much better now, took me a few minuets to adjust but I don't mind it at all (except for close-range, as it's a little harder to effectively hip-fire now). Will likely take out the LR or try a MD tonight. My guess is the LR will be at a much better advantage for medium-long range now, since the AR no longer emits a perfectly straight line of insta-kill bullets (which is a good thing IMO, and I am first and foremost an AR user).

Marston EV Doomheim 75	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:24:00 - [11] - Quote G-SLicK wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Oh yes i start to like how CCP is handling things. Cause of recoil and iron sights AR's are no longer capable to counter Laser rifles from distance . Evil thing is that this game became a giant hunt for me and you AR guys are my prey. When some AR guy shots me from distance i turn around and kill him for his insolence. And dont say that the laser rifle should have recoil thats just silly cause its a laser. Oh and have fun with your Tac AR lasers are easy mode, wait till you get a taste of my mass driver. GET GOOD i killed you with a militia suit + toxin sub today while you were using your MD with proto suit slick!!! is it that good???
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:29:00 - [12] - Quote G-SLicK wrote: "pro"-tube is what we call it now cause it takes skill, i think you were the tank driver that ran to his spawn and camped every match you played against me right? and also missile spammed with droships? talk about a "*****"-noob Tanks? I barely use them anymore cause they are just not effective anymore. And lol skill with mass driver you probs run up somebody at 10m distance and then start spamming with a assault mass driver which has more blast radius then missile launchers ever had. I bet you simply climb up a building and start spamming them from above like a scrub. And since when is the laser rifle considered a easy mode gun? You need to aim with it and keep it on target. While with a mass driver you just shot somewhere next to a enemy and still get a hit. And yeh i spammed dropships nothing wrong about that. Allways using that what works the best or simple sayd: i adapt and doesnt die. Now have fun with your mass driver cause your TAC AR+Modded controller combo has beeing rendered useless. WASTED MONEY
Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:31:00 - [13] - Quote Marston EV wrote: G-SLicK wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Oh yes i start to like how CCP is handling things. Cause of recoil and iron sights AR's are no longer capable to counter Laser rifles from distance . Evil thing is that this game became a giant hunt for me and you AR guys are my prey. When some AR guy shots me from distance i turn around and kill him for his insolence. And dont say that the laser rifle should have recoil thats just silly cause its a laser. Oh and have fun with your Tac AR lasers are easy mode, wait till you get a taste of my mass driver. GET GOOD i killed you with a militia suit + toxin sub today while you were using your MD with proto suit slick!!! is it that good??? Every time any Imperfects saw you, you ran like a b!tch! You call yourself a man?!? Grow a pair!! Call yourself good?!? In your dreams. K thanks bye. I love when the girls run away.
Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:36:00 - [14] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: G-SLicK wrote: "pro"-tube is what we call it now cause it takes skill, i think you were the tank driver that ran to his spawn and camped every match you played against me right? and also missile spammed with droships? talk about a "***"-noob Tanks? I barely use them anymore cause they are just not effective anymore. And lol skill with mass driver you probs run up somebody at 10m distance and then start spamming with a assault mass driver which has more blast radius then missile launchers ever had. I bet you simply climb up a building and start spamming them from above like a scrub. And since when is the laser rifle considered a easy mode gun? You need to aim with it and keep it on target. While with a mass driver you just shot somewhere next to a enemy and still get a hit. And yeh i spammed dropships nothing wrong about that. Allways using that what works the best or simple sayd: i adapt and doesnt die. Now have fun with your mass driver cause your TAC AR+Modded controller combo has beeing rendered useless. WASTED MONEY What I got from this is "I act like a little *** because I have no skill! I use whatever weapon or tactic where I can hide because I have no balls to fight toe to toe with anyone!" Keep being a scrub!
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:36:00 - [15] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: (except for close-range, as it's a little harder to effectively hip-fire now). i too feel hip fire is a lil harder now.. meh i too like the Exile and am having fun with it i haven't put points in to LR but i have bought the book. i really could care less about MD
Rayan Storm ZionTCD Legacy Rising 358	Posted - 2012.12.20 02:48:00 - [16] - Quote G-SLicK wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Oh yes i start to like how CCP is handling things. Cause of recoil and iron sights AR's are no longer capable to counter Laser rifles from distance . Evil thing is that this game became a giant hunt for me and you AR guys are my prey. When some AR guy shots me from distance i turn around and kill him for his insolence. And dont say that the laser rifle should have recoil thats just silly cause its a laser. Oh and have fun with your Tac AR lasers are easy mode, wait till you get a taste of my mass driver. GET GOOD ....i hate both of you *goes back to fiddling with his Duvolle "WHY WON'T YOU WORK LIKE YOU USED TO?!"
Cinnamon267 The Southern Legion 30	Posted - 2012.12.20 06:35:00 - [17] - Quote It's, kind of, messed up how OP the Laser Rifle is. Been using it since the beginning of Codex. Only read threat was someone with a Tactical Assault Rifle. Or a heavy with a HMG that got a little too close. Other than that the Laser Rifle makes short work of everything. Which is a weird thing to figure out how to balance. Its inability to do anything at close range is negated if you have an SMG.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2012.12.20 07:23:00 - [18] - Quote Cinnamon267 wrote: It's, kind of, messed up how OP the Laser Rifle is. Been using it since the beginning of Codex. Only read threat was someone with a Tactical Assault Rifle. Or a heavy with a HMG that got a little too close. Other than that the Laser Rifle makes short work of everything. Which is a weird thing to figure out how to balance. Its inability to do anything at close range is negated if you have an SMG. I can confirm this- if cinnamon shoots you at long range, he'll wipe you away pretty fast, and if you get close his SMG rips you to shreds. I only get him if I'm using a heavy.
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.12.20 07:24:00 - [19] - Quote They changed nothing but sights and now the weapon everyone called useless is now op. What
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2046	Posted - 2012.12.20 07:27:00 - [20] - Quote crazy space wrote: They changed nothing but sights and now the weapon everyone called useless is now op. What umm.. what the hell are you talking about, laser rifles have always been a crazy good weapon when used properly.

SATORI CORUSCANTi Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2012.12.20 07:30:00 - [21] - Quote crazy space wrote: They changed nothing but sights and now the weapon everyone called useless is now op. What The normal ARs don't quite have the range for laser rifles. Lasers optimal starts at like 60m, a basic assault rifles optimal ends before 40. Tact rifles were the only thing that could make them keep their heads down, and now the tact rifle is too unwieldy for many to use effectively(myself included). A heated up laser would out DPS a Tact before, but the ability to fire off multiple shots in rapid succession made it a decent enough fight. Now it's just like "holy **** this laser is melting me and I can't do anything about it" I don't think lasers are OP though. The range is so finicky on them, it balances out imo
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.12.20 08:12:00 - [22] - Quote I think "some" people are disillusioned about Laser Rifles. They're MADE to destroy at long range. Do you complain when you're surprised by a Heavy at close Range and he stomps you with his HMG? Do you complain when your out in the open and see a sniper and he proceeds to headshot you? Do you complain when a player gets behind you with a Nova Knife and Melee kills you?I hope not, because that's what those weapons are MADE to do. The Laser Rifle is made for Long Range superiority. Trying to face off against it at range is the absolute worst decision you could make. Instead of complaining about how you got killed, like it's a crime against nature, i implore you to try and utilize different tactics for removing them. Advisable Options: -Get behind them -Get close to them without being seen -get above them, they don't aim straight up well Above all avoid ranged Combat, most of the time it's not like they can chase you. Avoid open fields if there is a known Laser Rifle user. Laser Rifles are no more dangerous than the old Assault Rifles, which i have already grown accustomed to avoiding. Keep the faith.
Legionay Doomheim 39	Posted - 2012.12.20 08:34:00 - [23] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Sandromin Hes wrote: [quote=Sleepy Zan]um, snipers? Sure try to find a position on ambush without getting murdered instantly. I snipe, 19-2 on that small spiky rocked map in ambush. About 2 of those kills were sub machine gun kills. The other 17 were from my Isokune sniper or whatever it's named.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.20 08:41:00 - [24] - Quote How to kill a laser rifle dude: 1) See green beam and take cover. Take a minute to consider how useless it is in playing objectives. 2) Destroy its ability to move aka swarmlaunch dark cloud's "oh my god they're coming !! must flee !" LAV 3) Rush the poor fella with your own LAV and watch him cry with its sad SMG at close rank 4) Lick tears
Daddrobit Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 277	Posted - 2012.12.20 08:53:00 - [25] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: How to kill a laser rifle dude: 1) See green beam and take cover. Take a minute to consider how useless it is in playing objectives. 2) Destroy its ability to move aka swarmlaunch dark cloud's "oh my god they're coming !! must flee !" LAV 3) Rush the poor fella with your own LAV and watch him cry with its sad SMG at close rank 4) Lick tears I start destroting their lav as soon as it's visible, they both generally blow up halfway to my position, and if that fails, my AV grenades don't. Me and saitori (or however fizzy spells his darn name on here) took down the bolas as well when someone tried it on us.
SATORI CORUSCANTi Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2012.12.20 09:01:00 - [26] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: How to kill a laser rifle dude: 1) See green beam and take cover. Take a minute to consider how useless it is in playing objectives. 2) Destroy its ability to move aka swarmlaunch dark cloud's "oh my god they're coming !! must flee !" LAV 3) Rush the poor fella with your own LAV and watch him cry with its sad SMG at close rank 4) Lick tears I start destroting their lav as soon as it's visible, they both generally blow up halfway to my position, and if that fails, my AV grenades don't. Me and saitori (or however fizzy spells his darn name on here) took down the bolas as well when someone tried it on us. Yeah, in optimal you can just melt the LAV before they can get anywhere with it.. it's pretty hilarious
Enkidu Camuel Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 69	Posted - 2012.12.20 11:01:00 - [27] - Quote SATORI CORUSCANTi wrote: Daddrobit wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: How to kill a laser rifle dude: 1) See green beam and take cover. Take a minute to consider how useless it is in playing objectives. 2) Destroy its ability to move aka swarmlaunch dark cloud's "oh my god they're coming !! must flee !" LAV 3) Rush the poor fella with your own LAV and watch him cry with its sad SMG at close rank 4) Lick tears I start destroting their lav as soon as it's visible, they both generally blow up halfway to my position, and if that fails, my AV grenades don't. Me and saitori (or however fizzy spells his darn name on here) took down the bolas as well when someone tried it on us. Yeah, in optimal you can just melt the LAV before they can get anywhere with it.. it's pretty hilarious I'm starting to use the Laser Rifles and the most hilarious thing for me was not only being able to melt LAV's but also militia HAV's, I swear, I was about to melt a Soma with the basic Laser Rifle but a blueberry with a swarm made the kill steal '-'
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.20 11:21:00 - [28] - Quote crazy space wrote: They changed nothing but sights and now the weapon everyone called useless is now op. What Tac AR has the same scope it used to have, but it's less effective because they added recoil to all the ARs. It's not JUST the sights that were changed. The scope removal is a big part of the change, but it's not the only thing that's gone. Also, on-topic, Sniper Rifles still bear Laser Rifles once set up. it's just more difficult to get set up as a Sniper unless you have competent teammates helping you to do so, either by providing Uplinks, or just being good meatshields while you're getting into position.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2012.12.20 11:26:00 - [29] - Quote Whenever I see Dark Cloud (or Bugsbunny Looney) I just jump around and run away as fast as I can because I know those viziam lasers will kill me dead in seconds. I don't know what could realistically be done to tone them down a bit but at the moment, unless you run in to them already up close, you don't stand a chance.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.20 13:35:00 - [30] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Whenever I see Dark Cloud (or Bugsbunny Looney) I just jump around and run away as fast as I can because I know those viziam lasers will kill me dead in seconds. I don't know what could realistically be done to tone them down a bit but at the moment, unless you run in to them already up close, you don't stand a chance. Take the same approach you would with a Sniper. Keep out of LoS as much as possible. Also, keep in mind that, even at optimal range, they need to heat up to be truly effective. If they can't do that, you win. Sprint from cover to cover while moving up on them. Break line of sight and flank. Abuse distractions from your teammates as a way to get close, then hit them with SMGs or Shotguns at point-blank, and ARs at mid-range.



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