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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2012.12.18 17:44:00 -
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I was watching my son play and it looked a lot sharper. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:33:00 -
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ps3 only supports 720 |
Snaps Tremor
Doomheim
19
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:33:00 -
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Definitely not 1080p, but the game has either had a minor resolution bump from what was clearly subnative rendering to native 720p, or the lighting has changed in a way that makes the whole game seem sharper.
It'd be nice to get dev clarification on this. I can understand keeping a lid on exact resolution numbers to avoid aggravating people who take that stuff way too seriously, but this is an extremely noticable jump and it'd be nice to hear how they managed it. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
45
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:35:00 -
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crazy space wrote:ps3 only supports 720
Ps3 supports 1080i and 1080p...
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:42:00 -
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From the manual: 1080p / 1080i / 720p / 480p
I thought Codex dropped it down to 720 for some reason but I'm not sure it was available at a higher resolution before. Is there a way to check? I'm not at my system right now. |
Re-FLeX
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
152
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:47:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:From the manual: 1080p / 1080i / 720p / 480p
I thought Codex dropped it down to 720 for some reason but I'm not sure it was available at a higher resolution before. Is there a way to check? I'm not at my system right now.
You will have to go into your tv/monitor display settings and check there whilst you are running the game. doubt its 1080 though cuz that will make the patch alot bigger then just 2.6gb |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
45
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:48:00 -
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Not sure, my system will automatically play at 1080p if possible so at this moment it only plays at 720p. Hopefully they patch it for 1080p. I'm sick of games being underdeveloped for ps3. |
Nest Stein
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
1
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:52:00 -
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My TV runs at 1080p for the XMB, and while I can't say in certainty, the game definitely seems to be running at a resolution other than the TV's native resolution (1080p).
And who knows, the game may never run at 1080p. It's not uncommon with more CPU/GPU intensive console games as a larger resolution can potentially drop frame rate. It's not as if we can all go out and upgrade our PS3s into something faster, ya know?
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Re-FLeX
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
152
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:53:00 -
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Nest Stein wrote:My TV runs at 1080p for the XMB, and while I can't say in certainty, the game definitely seems to be running at a resolution other than the TV's native resolution (1080p).
And who knows, the game may never run at 1080p. It's not uncommon with more CPU/GPU intensive console games as a larger resolution can potentially drop frame rate. It's not as if we can all go out and upgrade our PS3s into something faster, ya know?
SSD Join the club yo. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:55:00 -
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crazy space wrote:ps3 only supports 720 Not true.
Most games only support 720, because the system struggles without extreme optimisation measures, but it CAN support 1080, and it consistently support upscaling to 1080.
PS3 can do 1080, but as a general rule, it doesn't |
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Nest Stein
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:56:00 -
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Re-FLeX wrote:Nest Stein wrote:My TV runs at 1080p for the XMB, and while I can't say in certainty, the game definitely seems to be running at a resolution other than the TV's native resolution (1080p).
And who knows, the game may never run at 1080p. It's not uncommon with more CPU/GPU intensive console games as a larger resolution can potentially drop frame rate. It's not as if we can all go out and upgrade our PS3s into something faster, ya know?
SSD Join the club yo.
Well, sure, but that's not something that most people would even entertain attempting (outside of us, obviously). |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
45
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:57:00 -
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Nest Stein wrote:My TV runs at 1080p for the XMB, and while I can't say in certainty, the game definitely seems to be running at a resolution other than the TV's native resolution (1080p).
And who knows, the game may never run at 1080p. It's not uncommon with more CPU/GPU intensive console games as a larger resolution can potentially drop frame rate. It's not as if we can all go out and upgrade our PS3s into something faster, ya know?
Same here. The game plays at 720p on mine.
The game wont be released with 1080p display you can pretty much guarantee it, and that's my point. But it should, ps3 is a powerful system.
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Re-FLeX
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
152
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:00:00 -
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Kiiran-B wrote:Nest Stein wrote:My TV runs at 1080p for the XMB, and while I can't say in certainty, the game definitely seems to be running at a resolution other than the TV's native resolution (1080p).
And who knows, the game may never run at 1080p. It's not uncommon with more CPU/GPU intensive console games as a larger resolution can potentially drop frame rate. It's not as if we can all go out and upgrade our PS3s into something faster, ya know?
Same here. The game plays at 720p on mine. The game wont be released with 1080p display you can pretty much guarantee it, and that's my point. But it should, ps3 is a powerful system.
6 Years ago. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:17:00 -
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ps3 powerful, lol
Who cares dust is being made on PC, so they just just release it but better on a new console when the ps4 comes out. Highpoly modeling is awesome like that. |
Firedog32 The Boss
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:29:00 -
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crazy space wrote:ps3 only supports 720 It supports 1080p I know this because I have a TV that is 1080p and one that is 720p only. Tried BF3 on both and I can def. say the 1080p one looks WAY better than the 720p TV. Plus its in the display settings Xp. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
45
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:40:00 -
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Really?! Six years? Wow.
But it should still play in 1080 :P |
Snaps Tremor
Doomheim
19
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:41:00 -
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Lot of nonsense here, I'll try and clear up any confusion with a bit of layman technical stuff.
First, the display your TV says it is using is not necessarily related to what the game engine is rendering at. Take your TV display info as a maximum, and be aware that many games render at a resolution quite a bit below that and then stretch it to fill the screen. To make things more complicated, a lot of big budget games render two dimensional HUD elements like radars and text at full 720p but do the actual 3D game engine at a resolution below that. Very, very few PS3 games render at 1080p. The ones that do are either two-dimensional games with low system requirements, or use some serious engine trickery (like Wipeout HD) to achieve that size. Dust absolutely is not 1080p, regardless of what your TV is telling you.
That said, prior to this patch, Dust's image quality was quite poor and looked like the whole thing was rendering quite a bit below 720p, similar to the Modern Warfare games. It shows up as a kind of general fuzz on everything that is more noticeable the better your display is. This build has a sharpness and clarity that implies it has jumped from that sub-720p size to proper 720p without any scaling. It could also just be a trick of the lighting or texture improvements.
For a bit of perspective, here is a list of resolutions for PS3 games: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
You'll notice a lot of games don't even hit 720p (1280x720), but your TV will display 720p for all of them because they're stretched out to that before they hit your display. Obviously the smaller the original size, the blurrier and less detailed it will look after being stretched.
If you really want to get 'into it', you'll be wanting to visit here: http://www.eurogamer.net/?topic=digital_foundry but be warned, it's one of those 'once you see you can't unsee' things. And for complicated hardware reasons (and developer laziness), the PS3 often compares unfavourably to the other consoles. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
45
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:52:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:Lot of nonsense here, I'll try and clear up any confusion with a bit of layman technical stuff. First, the display your TV says it is using is not necessarily related to what the game engine is rendering at. Take your's TV display info as a maximum, and be aware that many games render at a resolution quite a bit below that and then stretch that to fill the screen. To make it more complicated, a lot of big budget games render two dimensional HUD elements like radars and text at full 720p but do the actual 3D game engine at a resolution below that. Very, very few PS3 games render at 1080p. The ones that do are either two-dimensional games with low system requirements, or use some serious engine trickery (like Wipeout HD) to achieve that size. Dust absolutely is not 1080p, regardless of what your TV is telling you. That said, prior to this patch, Dust's image quality was quite poor and looked like the whole thing was rendering quite a bit below 720p, similar to the Modern Warfare games. It shows up as a kind of general fuzz on everything that is more noticeable the better your display is. This build has a sharpness and clarity that implies it has jumped from that sub-720p size to proper 720p without any scaling. It could also just be a trick of the lighting or texture improvements. For a bit of perspective, here is a list of resolutions for PS3 games: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241You'll notice a lot of games don't even hit 720p (1280x720), but your TV will display 720p for all of them because they're stretched out to that before they hit your display. Obviously the smaller the original size, the blurrier and less detailed it will look after being stretched. If you really want to get 'into it', you'll be wanting to visit here: http://www.eurogamer.net/?topic=digital_foundry but we warned, it's one of those once you see it you can't unsee it things. And for complicated hardware reasons (and developer laziness), the PS3 often compares unfavourably to the other consoles.
My point was that all ps3 games should run in 1080p. It would be nice :).
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:15:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:Lot of nonsense here, I'll try and clear up any confusion with a bit of layman technical stuff. First, the display your TV says it is using is not necessarily related to what the game engine is rendering at. Take your's TV display info as a maximum, and be aware that many games render at a resolution quite a bit below that and then stretch that to fill the screen. To make it more complicated, a lot of big budget games render two dimensional HUD elements like radars and text at full 720p but do the actual 3D game engine at a resolution below that. Very, very few PS3 games render at 1080p. The ones that do are either two-dimensional games with low system requirements, or use some serious engine trickery (like Wipeout HD) to achieve that size. Dust absolutely is not 1080p, regardless of what your TV is telling you. That said, prior to this patch, Dust's image quality was quite poor and looked like the whole thing was rendering quite a bit below 720p, similar to the Modern Warfare games. It shows up as a kind of general fuzz on everything that is more noticeable the better your display is. This build has a sharpness and clarity that implies it has jumped from that sub-720p size to proper 720p without any scaling. It could also just be a trick of the lighting or texture improvements. For a bit of perspective, here is a list of resolutions for PS3 games: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241You'll notice a lot of games don't even hit 720p (1280x720), but your TV will display 720p for all of them because they're stretched out to that before they hit your display. Obviously the smaller the original size, the blurrier and less detailed it will look after being stretched. If you really want to get 'into it', you'll be wanting to visit here: http://www.eurogamer.net/?topic=digital_foundry but we warned, it's one of those once you see it you can't unsee it things. And for complicated hardware reasons (and developer laziness), the PS3 often compares unfavourably to the other consoles.
Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. I haven't spent much time with consoles but it's pretty obvious that something changed with this release. |
Marston EV
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:19:00 -
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Re-FLeX wrote:Nest Stein wrote:My TV runs at 1080p for the XMB, and while I can't say in certainty, the game definitely seems to be running at a resolution other than the TV's native resolution (1080p).
And who knows, the game may never run at 1080p. It's not uncommon with more CPU/GPU intensive console games as a larger resolution can potentially drop frame rate. It's not as if we can all go out and upgrade our PS3s into something faster, ya know?
SSD Join the club yo.
Did you actually do that?? i read a thread about upgrading PS3s with SSD's but i heard there could be problems with burn outs and other things, so was it worth the extra 50-100$ you spent? how hard was it to install? |
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Snaps Tremor
Doomheim
19
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:26:00 -
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Marston EV wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:Nest Stein wrote:My TV runs at 1080p for the XMB, and while I can't say in certainty, the game definitely seems to be running at a resolution other than the TV's native resolution (1080p).
And who knows, the game may never run at 1080p. It's not uncommon with more CPU/GPU intensive console games as a larger resolution can potentially drop frame rate. It's not as if we can all go out and upgrade our PS3s into something faster, ya know?
SSD Join the club yo. Did you actually do that?? i read a thread about upgrading PS3s with SSD's but i heard there could be problems with burn outs and other things, so was it worth the extra 50-100$ you spent? how hard was it to install?
Well, worth is relative. It's a huge price to pay compared to the actual benefits, as the ancient PS3 architecture can't take full advantage of modern SSDs, but for anything constrained by HDD seek times (like Dust's texture loading, and other things that rely on streaming a lot of content like Playstation Home) it can make a big difference. For many other games it makes no difference at all. |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
335
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:26:00 -
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DUST is running in 720p, so anything that supports that resolution works. |
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Snaps Tremor
Doomheim
19
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:33:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:DUST is running in 720p, so anything that supports that resolution works.
Well that's just a tease. DUST could always be said to be 'running' in 720p, even if the framebuffer is pumping out 640+ù360. It could also be taken as confirmation that that is now the native render resolution and was not before. It could also just be the default statement used whenever anyone asks anything about this subject. WHAT A BAD CHRISTMAS PRESENT. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:33:00 -
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Mt tv supports 420p 720p and 1080i only. Probably the game supports 1080i and 720p. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:40:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:DUST is running in 720p, so anything that supports that resolution works.
Always happy to get an official response. So... what was is doing before?
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Nu11u5
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2012.12.18 21:22:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:Marston EV wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:Nest Stein wrote:My TV runs at 1080p for the XMB, and while I can't say in certainty, the game definitely seems to be running at a resolution other than the TV's native resolution (1080p).
And who knows, the game may never run at 1080p. It's not uncommon with more CPU/GPU intensive console games as a larger resolution can potentially drop frame rate. It's not as if we can all go out and upgrade our PS3s into something faster, ya know?
SSD Join the club yo. Did you actually do that?? i read a thread about upgrading PS3s with SSD's but i heard there could be problems with burn outs and other things, so was it worth the extra 50-100$ you spent? how hard was it to install? Well, worth is relative. It's a huge price to pay compared to the actual benefits, as the ancient PS3 architecture can't take full advantage of modern SSDs, but for anything constrained by HDD seek times (like Dust's texture loading, and other things that rely on streaming a lot of content like Playstation Home) it can make a big difference. For many other games it makes no difference at all.
Just gonna say it, the HDD(SSD) has zero impact on the ability for the PS3 to render in 1080p. It will help the initial loading time, sure, but that would help 720p just as much.
My 120GB stock drive filled up so I went with a Seagate Momentus XT Hybrid Drive. It has a 8GB cache that makes subsequent loads after the first one much faster - and only $40 extra.
The problem with high-capacity SSDs (really anything not industrial rated) is they use multi-cell flash, which wears out much faster than single-cell flash (which the Momentus XT uses, and why the 8GB costs $40). The rate of wear can be slowed if the system knows how to use 'wear leveling', but the PS3 is not one of these systems. You will still get a few years of use out of it, though. |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
30
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Posted - 2012.12.19 03:15:00 -
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Game is running at 720p. Always has. No reason to think it would be higher. It seems they have improved the lighting and, largely, solved issues with streaming textures. Look better and it is better looking on a more consistent basis, too.
There will be subtle refinements up until the 1.0(final) release of the game. |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
30
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Posted - 2012.12.19 03:17:00 -
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Kiiran-B wrote:Snaps Tremor wrote:Lot of nonsense here, I'll try and clear up any confusion with a bit of layman technical stuff. First, the display your TV says it is using is not necessarily related to what the game engine is rendering at. Take your's TV display info as a maximum, and be aware that many games render at a resolution quite a bit below that and then stretch that to fill the screen. To make it more complicated, a lot of big budget games render two dimensional HUD elements like radars and text at full 720p but do the actual 3D game engine at a resolution below that. Very, very few PS3 games render at 1080p. The ones that do are either two-dimensional games with low system requirements, or use some serious engine trickery (like Wipeout HD) to achieve that size. Dust absolutely is not 1080p, regardless of what your TV is telling you. That said, prior to this patch, Dust's image quality was quite poor and looked like the whole thing was rendering quite a bit below 720p, similar to the Modern Warfare games. It shows up as a kind of general fuzz on everything that is more noticeable the better your display is. This build has a sharpness and clarity that implies it has jumped from that sub-720p size to proper 720p without any scaling. It could also just be a trick of the lighting or texture improvements. For a bit of perspective, here is a list of resolutions for PS3 games: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241You'll notice a lot of games don't even hit 720p (1280x720), but your TV will display 720p for all of them because they're stretched out to that before they hit your display. Obviously the smaller the original size, the blurrier and less detailed it will look after being stretched. If you really want to get 'into it', you'll be wanting to visit here: http://www.eurogamer.net/?topic=digital_foundry but we warned, it's one of those once you see it you can't unsee it things. And for complicated hardware reasons (and developer laziness), the PS3 often compares unfavourably to the other consoles. My point was that all ps3 games should run in 1080p. It would be nice :).
Ideally running at 1080p would be great. But, it's a hardware limitation. It's 6 years old. Games run at 720p 30FPS for a reason :) |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.12.19 03:46:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:crazy space wrote:ps3 only supports 720 Not true. Most games only support 720, because the system struggles without extreme optimisation measures, but it CAN support 1080, and it consistently support upscaling to 1080. PS3 can do 1080, but as a general rule, it doesn't ignore the troll, he'd troll himself if he could, worst troll ever and he's yet to stop... he's a sad cookie edit: about 1080 vs 720 though the PSN games a majority 1080p as they're less graphically intense. for games such as Dust and others with high visual fidelity the PS3 can only successfully sustain acceptable FPS when at 720p
Marston EV wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:SSD Join the club yo. Did you actually do that?? i read a thread about upgrading PS3s with SSD's but i heard there could be problems with burn outs and other things, so was it worth the extra 50-100$ you spent? how hard was it to install? yes, i think the majority of us Imperfects now have SSD or Hybrid's :) i spend $55 and the install is easy.. like its so easy they put it in the manual of your PS3! |
Re-FLeX
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
152
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Posted - 2012.12.19 12:14:00 -
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Marston EV wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:SSD Join the club yo. Did you actually do that?? i read a thread about upgrading PS3s with SSD's but i heard there could be problems with burn outs and other things, so was it worth the extra 50-100$ you spent? how hard was it to install? yes, i think the majority of us Imperfects now have SSD or Hybrid's :) i spend $55 and the install is easy.. like its so easy they put it in the manual of your PS3![/quote]
Spent 60$ for mine, its very easy to install just make sure to backup your saves on either PSN Cloud or on a usb stick. |
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