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Nova Knife
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:31:00 -
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I do not endorse this.
The reasons for the UVT have been stated by CCP. They make sense.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=263211#post263211
UVT's are a nonprofit item. They will be cheap for aurum, and they will be available for ISK when the secondary market hits.
CCP is also going to add a UVT that will enable itself for the corp channel regardless of if someone in the corp has a UVT or not, so everyone can talk. (These will also be available for ISK)
There is no issue here. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:06:00 -
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BMSTUBBYx wrote:
Thanks for the link however during a beta to charge for this is just silly.
As I stated above after release sure but during a beta, come on.
How is it silly? Is it silly for them to offer guns and suits for aurum during a beta? I'd think not, especially since any and all aurum purchased is being reimbursed when the beta ends, regardless if you spend it or not. You're really not spending any money on the beta at all. You're spending money on things to use in the full game that you conveniently get to try risk-free now while we're still in beta. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:47:00 -
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@ Royal : Even eve players who are in NPC corps pay the fee. The fee for the vivox service related to eve voice is included in every eve subscription.
Players who don't want to spend a dime on dust will not need to. They'll be able to get their own UVT's for ISK from the secondary market. But it's important that the UVT -is- a secondary market aurum item and not something CCP is selling for ISK. Players can buy them with aurum and then sell them to other players for ISK.
I won't deny that CCP could've handled it better, but to the best of my knowledge the fact that you could even talk in corp without a UVT last build was a bug. Since the UVT's introduction it was always stated that you'd need a UVT to talk in any non-squad channel outside of battle.
I wouldn't be too opposed to them reverting this change until the secondary market makes its debut, but corp chat being free forever would be a bad move IMO. They'd just need to recoup the costs in other places which means aurum base prices for everything else would go up. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2012.12.18 22:14:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:
Nova knife, sorry, your wrong. They need to make money yes, but not on UGTs. Recoup the loss woth other things like custom paint jobs for dropsuits or corp logos on tanks and crap.
Not on UVTs
UVT is a non profit item. They aren't selling it to make money. They are selling it because they need to pay vivox to make the voice stuff work in the first place. This is why there is the fee. The UVT will always be cheaper than other aurum products like boosters, because the boosters are a for-profit item as opposed to the UVT which is a non-profit item.
If they were to do what you suggest, every aurum item would likely get hiked up a bit in price if they were to ditch the concept of the UVT. |
Nova Knife
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Posted - 2012.12.19 13:01:00 -
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I think the key thing you guys are missing here is that
You will be able to buy a UVT for ISK
If you don't want to spend money on dust, you won't and never will have to, even if you want aurum stuff.
You'll even be able to get boosters for ISK as well. Same with any item available for aurum.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=263211#post263211
UVT's were always going to be this way. It was a bug that corp channels didn't require it last build. The arguments "I CAN'T AFFORD IT" and "HOW IS IT FREE IF I HAVE TO PAY FOR A 'CORE' FEATURE" are moot. |
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