It was just a pure extender fit Gunnlogi, took like 3 clips from an ELM-7 and a Viziam in optimal range to kill it

It was just a pure extender fit Gunnlogi, took like 3 clips from an ELM-7 and a Viziam in optimal range to kill it

Hahaha

This actually did happen

(We tested laser rifle strength and they can tear down shields extremely quickly)

They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range.

thats called balance

its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them

Just a fyi, a viziam does about 2k damage per clip against a single target, a douvelle does just under 2k damage not taking into account the damage skills assault rifle gets and laser doesn't.

Only reason a tank gets so damaged is because of their lack of resists to em. An armour tank would just laugh at it.

thats called balance

its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them

/LaserRifleUser

Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\

sorry fahren but im not a 1 trick pony
i use multiple weapons and proficient with them from all Assault Rifles to Lasers to Mass Drivers to shotguns to tanks
The TAR has just as much range as a LR and can still be used at closer ranges
the dmg on the LR depends on range and how long the heat buildup is

u can kill faster with the TAR than a LR

I was only poking fun at you, bro.

someone is thinking i see.
the problem alot of ppl face in this beta is they try to engage everything the same way no matter what suit the person has or what weapon they using hence ppl get downed alot

Yessssss. I will never forget a Manus Peaks Skirmish with Regnum on the other side. He was over to the side of Alpha with high ground advantage, some cover, and a Codewish Tactical. The blues just kept lemming after him. Across open ground. Uphill. He finished 68-1. Sorta just have to marvel at how stupid people can truly be.

Knowing your advantages/disadvantages vs. your opponents advantages/disadvantages is vital. But people don't think. They chase the red with a shotgun, the red ducks around the corner, the blue chases... The blue gets one-shot at point blank by the shotty. Then the blue hops on the forums and bitches about shotguns OP.

And it's not just this beta, it's every FPS that has maps larger than what you find in COD. The moment maps are big enough for you to consider effective ranges and positioning, the game because more than just about who shoots better. It's just that fact hasn't dawned on most people.

Einstein's definition of insanity is to attempt the same experiment the exact same way and expect a different result.

They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range.

They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range.

Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\

Not gonna lie, me and fizzy had a guy who was hiding behind a rock try and do this. We were able to focus down his lav in only like three or four seconds, well before he could run anywhere. At optimal range, you can completely melt a militia lav with only one elm clip. Although if your opponent is charging you, then you're screwed, or you just toss your AV nades.

They are way too affective at range. Melts me faster than fizzy does with his AR, if that doesn't mean its broken, then I don't know what is

someone is thinking i see.
the problem alot of ppl face in this beta is they try to engage everything the same way no matter what suit the person has or what weapon they using hence ppl get downed alot

They are way too affective at range. Melts me faster than fizzy does with his AR, if that doesn't mean its broken, then I don't know what is

primary the scout
multiple beams from the dark
nerds in optimal

most of the kills I get with lasers are from idiots any one that has a clue gets to cover and closes range. The only time I've been taken out by lasers is when I couldn't stay in cover because of the lasers teammates in which case he could of been using an AR and been more effective.

(...)

Please remember that lasers DON'T melt people until the last 30% of a clip. That means laser user has had to commit in to warm up the LR, and giving up some initiative. (And sacrificing lots of ammo and risking reload situation)

That is one reason why LR is a great support weapon, BUT ONLY support weapon.

Second reason is the ridiculously long minimum optimal (for those not knowing: LR has optimal somewhere 70-90m)


When thinking if LR is op, consider this:
How many solo killing Laser Rifles you see out there???

Iv seen a number of guys sitting out just raking in kills

lasers at optimal do way more damage than projectiles at optimal, so much so when I start getting shot I cannot react fast enough to take cover. Its for this reason I claim they are OP