DUST Search - Lasers are magic

Mavado V Noriega wrote:

Sephirian Fair wrote:

Mavado V Noriega wrote:

Deranged Disaster wrote:

They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range.

thats called balance

its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them

Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\

someone is thinking i see.
the problem alot of ppl face in this beta is they try to engage everything the same way no matter what suit the person has or what weapon they using hence ppl get downed alot

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Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2012.12.17 22:43:00 - [31] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Sephirian Fair wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Deranged Disaster wrote: They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\ someone is thinking i see. the problem alot of ppl face in this beta is they try to engage everything the same way no matter what suit the person has or what weapon they using hence ppl get downed alot yea there's been a crap ton of noobs lately they also try to rush me when they only have %10 left on their militia armor and I have full complex shields and armor, it's like 1/3 of my kills are this easy
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 213	Posted - 2012.12.18 00:30:00 - [32] - Quote most of the kills I get with lasers are from idiots any one that has a clue gets to cover and closes range. The only time I've been taken out by lasers is when I couldn't stay in cover because of the lasers teammates in which case he could of been using an AR and been more effective. the reason why they seem so bad is you learn quickly as a laser to wait out your opponent instead of trying to run up on them. this causes people to feel trapped by lasers a lot. situational awareness that's all I can say, lasers are laughable unless played just right and even then I do better with an AR.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2012.12.18 01:10:00 - [33] - Quote Been playing around with the basic laser rifle the last few days, pretty fun and can be incredibly effective if at that optimal range. But close range is useless, not to mention that the thing fries about 90% of your shields if it overheats. I've suicided a few times from that already. And when it does overheat, you have to go through the entire overheating animation before reloading or switching weapons, which is absolutely terrible in a situation where time is of the essence. Because not only did it fry 90% of your shields, but you have to wait an additional 3-4 seconds before reloading it or using another weapon. Not sure how much the range is extended on the upper tier models, but the basic one really doesn't have that great of range, and I have sharpshooter at proficiency level 3! Often times I am amazed that I can't hit certain targets that arent even that far away. Overall from my experience, the laser rifle is very good if in that small sweet-spot, but it's disadvantages are a bit much for what you actually get out of it, especially when comparing to AR's.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2012.12.18 02:14:00 - [34] - Quote PAUL BERNARD wrote: They are way too affective at range. Melts me faster than fizzy does with his AR, if that doesn't mean its broken, then I don't know what is Please remember that lasers DON'T melt people until the last 30% of a clip. That means laser user has had to commit in to warm up the LR, and giving up some initiative. (And sacrificing lots of ammo and risking reload situation) That is one reason why LR is a great support weapon, BUT ONLY support weapon. Second reason is the ridiculously long minimum optimal (for those not knowing: LR has optimal somewhere 70-90m) When thinking if LR is op, consider this: How many solo killing Laser Rifles you see out there???
SATORI CORUSCANTi Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2012.12.18 02:38:00 - [35] - Quote Yeah, if you're running a laser rifle, you aren't going to be taking objectives. You're gonna be sitting in the back breaking everyone's shields while your team needs to clean up and hack. It's frustrating using a laser rifle when your team sucks lol.
ZiwZih Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 54	Posted - 2012.12.18 02:40:00 - [36] - Quote dent 308 wrote: primary the scout multiple beams from the dark nerds in optimal Good haiku. Added you as a contributor. fred orpaul wrote: most of the kills I get with lasers are from idiots any one that has a clue gets to cover and closes range. The only time I've been taken out by lasers is when I couldn't stay in cover because of the lasers teammates in which case he could of been using an AR and been more effective. (...) Just the lick from LR to a STD/BPO Scout suit will most probably melt it, not sure how it is with an Assault. Saying that as a Scout, of course I am against nerfing them -- an excellent weapon in hands of a master, petty in all other cases (if you are not extra lucky). Same or maybe harder to master than MD, tho.
PAUL BERNARD Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2012.12.18 03:56:00 - [37] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: PAUL BERNARD wrote: They are way too affective at range. Melts me faster than fizzy does with his AR, if that doesn't mean its broken, then I don't know what is Please remember that lasers DON'T melt people until the last 30% of a clip. That means laser user has had to commit in to warm up the LR, and giving up some initiative. (And sacrificing lots of ammo and risking reload situation) That is one reason why LR is a great support weapon, BUT ONLY support weapon. Second reason is the ridiculously long minimum optimal (for those not knowing: LR has optimal somewhere 70-90m) When thinking if LR is op, consider this: How many solo killing Laser Rifles you see out there??? Iv seen a number of guys sitting out just raking in kills lasers at optimal do way more damage than projectiles at optimal, so much so when I start getting shot I cannot react fast enough to take cover. Its for this reason I claim they are OP
Daddrobit Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 277	Posted - 2012.12.18 04:10:00 - [38] - Quote PAUL BERNARD wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: PAUL BERNARD wrote: They are way too affective at range. Melts me faster than fizzy does with his AR, if that doesn't mean its broken, then I don't know what is Please remember that lasers DON'T melt people until the last 30% of a clip. That means laser user has had to commit in to warm up the LR, and giving up some initiative. (And sacrificing lots of ammo and risking reload situation) That is one reason why LR is a great support weapon, BUT ONLY support weapon. Second reason is the ridiculously long minimum optimal (for those not knowing: LR has optimal somewhere 70-90m) When thinking if LR is op, consider this: How many solo killing Laser Rifles you see out there??? Iv seen a number of guys sitting out just raking in kills lasers at optimal do way more damage than projectiles at optimal, so much so when I start getting shot I cannot react fast enough to take cover. Its for this reason I claim they are OP I think I may have melted paul one too many times. <3
Tricanis MK2 G I A N T 1	Posted - 2012.12.18 04:57:00 - [39] - Quote Lazers are not op, just get close to a lazer user and they do **** for damage.. thats why i am an avid Scrambler user. But what i want to see is some Lazer rifle variants like a burst version or a tactical to compete with the AR's And to see different skins on the higher end lazers.
Deranged Disaster Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 65	Posted - 2012.12.18 10:29:00 - [40] - Quote Take it easy, jesus, I didn't say make them useless. I only wanted to point out that being able to melt a tank's shields with two laser rifles is just not cool. Against infantry they are balanced just fine.



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