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Daddrobit
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.17 09:19:00 -
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I just popped Laz in a 10,000 shield tank with my laser rifle, (fizzy helped a little with his own) ran up, then melee'd him after he bailed out.
I'm just saying. |
Laz Ulian Sol
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.17 09:21:00 -
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Hahaha
This actually did happen
(We tested laser rifle strength and they can tear down shields extremely quickly) |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.12.17 09:34:00 -
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And the game glitched us out and no ISK was lost \o/ |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.12.17 10:11:00 -
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what was the fit? how long did it take to down? |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.17 10:41:00 -
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It was just a pure extender fit Gunnlogi, took like 3 clips from an ELM-7 and a Viziam in optimal range to kill it |
PrincessCadenza
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.17 11:02:00 -
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SATORI CORUSCANTi wrote:It was just a pure extender fit Gunnlogi, took like 3 clips from an ELM-7 and a Viziam in optimal range to kill it lol |
Daddrobit
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.17 11:05:00 -
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SATORI CORUSCANTi wrote:It was just a pure extender fit Gunnlogi, took like 3 clips from an ELM-7 and a Viziam in optimal range to kill it
I had 3 complex damage mods on my visiam, and it brought it down to 1/2 health in the first barrage, but then he started to turn tail, so I had to chase him down to actually kill him.
<3<3<3 |
Deranged Disaster
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
65
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Posted - 2012.12.17 11:07:00 -
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They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.12.17 11:41:00 -
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Laz Ulian Sol wrote:Hahaha
This actually did happen
(We tested laser rifle strength and they can tear down shields extremely quickly)
"This game is easy" -said Daddrobit to Laz's tank
lol |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.12.17 12:25:00 -
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So remind me again who tried to tell me that Laser Rifles aren't a useful AV weapon?
Because that was funny already, but it's even more of a joke now. |
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2012.12.17 13:02:00 -
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Lasers Are Magic : http://youtu.be/FQRIjzW-kg0
And are quite terrible at close. I would hate to see a damage nerf applied to an already difficult to use weapon. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.12.17 13:11:00 -
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OP |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
265
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Posted - 2012.12.17 13:16:00 -
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Just a fyi, a viziam does about 2k damage per clip against a single target, a douvelle does just under 2k damage not taking into account the damage skills assault rifle gets and laser doesn't.
Only reason a tank gets so damaged is because of their lack of resists to em. An armour tank would just laugh at it. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.17 13:33:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range.
thats called balance
its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them |
Sephirian Fair
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
48
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Posted - 2012.12.17 13:47:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them
Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\ |
NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2012.12.17 15:38:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Just a fyi, a viziam does about 2k damage per clip against a single target, a douvelle does just under 2k damage not taking into account the damage skills assault rifle gets and laser doesn't.
Only reason a tank gets so damaged is because of their lack of resists to em. An armour tank would just laugh at it.
I would like to try it out. I have the armor tanks, need someone to shoot at me with the Laser rifle. I wont shoot back LOL Just want to test the resistance. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2012.12.17 16:15:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them
/LaserRifleUser |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.17 16:20:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them /LaserRifleUser
sorry fahren but im not a 1 trick pony i use multiple weapons and proficient with them from all Assault Rifles to Lasers to Mass Drivers to shotguns to tanks The TAR has just as much range as a LR and can still be used at closer ranges the dmg on the LR depends on range and how long the heat buildup is
u can kill faster with the TAR than a LR |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.17 16:22:00 -
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Sephirian Fair wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\
someone is thinking i see. the problem alot of ppl face in this beta is they try to engage everything the same way no matter what suit the person has or what weapon they using hence ppl get downed alot |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2012.12.17 16:24:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:fahrenheitM wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them /LaserRifleUser sorry fahren but im not a 1 trick pony i use multiple weapons and proficient with them from all Assault Rifles to Lasers to Mass Drivers to shotguns to tanks The TAR has just as much range as a LR and can still be used at closer ranges the dmg on the LR depends on range and how long the heat buildup is u can kill faster with the TAR than a LR
I was only poking fun at you, bro. |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.17 16:37:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:fahrenheitM wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them /LaserRifleUser sorry fahren but im not a 1 trick pony i use multiple weapons and proficient with them from all Assault Rifles to Lasers to Mass Drivers to shotguns to tanks The TAR has just as much range as a LR and can still be used at closer ranges the dmg on the LR depends on range and how long the heat buildup is u can kill faster with the TAR than a LR I was only poking fun at you, bro.
kool |
Sephirian Fair
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
48
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Posted - 2012.12.17 16:39:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Sephirian Fair wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\ someone is thinking i see. the problem alot of ppl face in this beta is they try to engage everything the same way no matter what suit the person has or what weapon they using hence ppl get downed alot
Yessssss. I will never forget a Manus Peaks Skirmish with Regnum on the other side. He was over to the side of Alpha with high ground advantage, some cover, and a Codewish Tactical. The blues just kept lemming after him. Across open ground. Uphill. He finished 68-1. Sorta just have to marvel at how stupid people can truly be.
Knowing your advantages/disadvantages vs. your opponents advantages/disadvantages is vital. But people don't think. They chase the red with a shotgun, the red ducks around the corner, the blue chases... The blue gets one-shot at point blank by the shotty. Then the blue hops on the forums and bitches about shotguns OP.
And it's not just this beta, it's every FPS that has maps larger than what you find in COD. The moment maps are big enough for you to consider effective ranges and positioning, the game because more than just about who shoots better. It's just that fact hasn't dawned on most people.
Einstein's definition of insanity is to attempt the same experiment the exact same way and expect a different result. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.12.17 16:44:00 -
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Sephirian Fair wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Sephirian Fair wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\ someone is thinking i see. the problem alot of ppl face in this beta is they try to engage everything the same way no matter what suit the person has or what weapon they using hence ppl get downed alot Yessssss. I will never forget a Manus Peaks Skirmish with Regnum on the other side. He was over to the side of Alpha with high ground advantage, some cover, and a Codewish Tactical. The blues just kept lemming after him. Across open ground. Uphill. He finished 68-1. Sorta just have to marvel at how stupid people can truly be. Knowing your advantages/disadvantages vs. your opponents advantages/disadvantages is vital. But people don't think. They chase the red with a shotgun, the red ducks around the corner, the blue chases... The blue gets one-shot at point blank by the shotty. Then the blue hops on the forums and bitches about shotguns OP. And it's not just this beta, it's every FPS that has maps larger than what you find in COD. The moment maps are big enough for you to consider effective ranges and positioning, the game because more than just about who shoots better. It's just that fact hasn't dawned on most people. Einstein's definition of insanity is to attempt the same experiment the exact same way and expect a different result.
+1 now if only most ppl on this game used their brains pubs wont be so boring totally agree on the map size comment |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2012.12.17 20:26:00 -
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primary the scout multiple beams from the dark nerds in optimal |
Michael Cratar
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
179
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:13:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range.
no no NO nO NO No No NO nO no nO NO nO NO NO NO NONONONONONONONONO NO!
NO!!!
*Flips a table*
GOD NO!
NO!
NOOOOOOOOO!
Get out! |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:15:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. Lazor's optimal range is so finicky already, you do such little damage when you aren't in it. Plus my tac rifle out ranges it. pls no lazor nerfs |
Daddrobit
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
277
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:28:00 -
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Sephirian Fair wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\
Not gonna lie, me and fizzy had a guy who was hiding behind a rock try and do this. We were able to focus down his lav in only like three or four seconds, well before he could run anywhere. At optimal range, you can completely melt a militia lav with only one elm clip. Although if your opponent is charging you, then you're screwed, or you just toss your AV nades. |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.12.17 21:33:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Sephirian Fair wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:They do need a damage nerf. I understand they are useless at close range but they are way too effective at long range. thats called balance its a gun for mid-long range fights and does absolutely nothing at cqc it doesnt need a damage nerf ppl need to know what they are facing and how to fight them Yeah... Positioning is something you have to think about in FPS's. If they are at their effective range, DON'T ENGAGE THEM. Hell, Tactical AR's and Lasers are simple to combat. You get in close enough, they're either going to miss a lot or do no damage, respectively. If a Laser is giving you problems, run away and call in an LAV. Drive up to him, hop out and waste him while his Laser rifles has 10% damage efficiency at within 10m. =\ Not gonna lie, me and fizzy had a guy who was hiding behind a rock try and do this. We were able to focus down his lav in only like three or four seconds, well before he could run anywhere. At optimal range, you can completely melt a militia lav with only one elm clip. Although if your opponent is charging you, then you're screwed, or you just toss your AV nades. That was easily more cool than killing the tank lololol
I can't even imagine what he was thinking as he jumped into his LAV at 50% shields already |
PAUL BERNARD
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
76
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Posted - 2012.12.17 22:29:00 -
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They are way too affective at range. Melts me faster than fizzy does with his AR, if that doesn't mean its broken, then I don't know what is |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.12.17 22:31:00 -
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PAUL BERNARD wrote:They are way too affective at range. Melts me faster than fizzy does with his AR, if that doesn't mean its broken, then I don't know what is They're supposed to be more powerful at range than ARs. Also damage mod stacking with the broken penalties. |
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