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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:03:00 -
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LOL! wow, I can't believe that my thread has been revived!
Ok, since a number have taken time to give feedback, I will give a little bit too. This thread is still relevant to the game's future. It's not about abandoning a PvE project, but the Devs are trying to figure out how corps will make money and fight each other.
link here!
So it looks like the plan is to have us earn the most from Player vs Player action. People might get something from PvE, but I still want the reward to be significantly less than the reward from PvP.
Now that open beta is around, we have a bunch of new people who seem to like PvP. That's good. I think there's probably enough around now so that enough of the PvP base will stay. My fear (at the time of this post) was that if PvE were implemented, no one would PvP.
Illuminaughty-696 wrote:when I'm sitting at 10 million SP able to throw full specced suit after fully specced suit into battle, new players will be slaughtered. You call this a game of skill, and it is, but gear and SP matter just as much in many cases. A new player coming into this game a year after release would likely be stomped on over and over with a big fat 0/20 score and decide this game sucks; they should not have to feel their only option is to suffer through the grind as the vets maul them over and over.
I don't think a new player should have to wait a year to be on the same level as older players. 3 months MAX. Why do you think so many people don't want to play Eve? One reason is that they'll forever be behind everyone who started playing before them.
It's an FPS game too. FPS lets people compete against each other. The game would suck if new players are always at a disadvantage that cannot be reduced and equalized in a fairly short period of time. Giving players PvE as a "fix" to this problem doesn't fix anything at all.
Fortunately, the Devs are working on a new SP cap system. I am hopeful that new players will be able to quickly reach the same effectiveness as a vet without having to spend AUR. That means max proto drop suit, max weapon and weapon skills, max dropsuit mods all in a month or two. Once you hit that tier, you can branch out into other things (like another suit, vehicles, etc., etc) but everyone needs to be on the same level for the game to be fun.
I had the most fun in this game when all of the SP was reset, and everyone was on the same level. Now every game is just filled with people using proto gear, and most of it AUR.
BASSMEANT wrote:(others have said,) "wow, this game is so hard! i can't play against real people and feel good! i need some ai bots to play against otherwise, well... i just can't level up! thanks for the AI bots!!"
Yah. Many of the people who want PvE probably do not want it for this reason, but as illuminaughty stated it might be the only option for players in the future. Just to try it out, I threw on the Assault - Frontline suit with almost 0 infantry skills (lol @ lvl 1 weaponry) and did fine. Others tried it and did the same too. You're not going to be on the top of the LB, but you can still stay above a 2.0. (sniping and tanking not included in this ratio...)
If the only option for new players is PvE because the PvP is just too imba, the ones who can PvP and like to PvP will quit and go somewhere else.
Vermaak Doe wrote:Second they wouldn't be in the beta AT ALL if they didn't want to play against other people.
There are a number of players who have articulated that they do not like or enjoy PvP.
Crm234 wrote:Why are you arguing with a 2.5 month old thread post??? What you should be more worried about is that nothing has changed in Dust in 2.5 months.
Despite Dust514's flaws and the fact that it is still BETA, it is definitely one of the better FPS games on the market. I'm glad that people are still voicing their opinions on certain issues ^.^
> Again, I am totally fine with PvE, and I hope that it pays nothing near what the corp contracts and whatever system CCP is setting up soon will.
Right now I'm not getting paid to be a merc. I'm getting paid to pubstomp. PvE doesn't fix this for me, as I still wouldn't be paid to merc and fight against other corporations. That's what I want, to shoot someone in the face, and not a robot. |