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SuperSaiyan4 Gogeta
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.08 18:09:00 -
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SP, average 10,000 a battle (for me that is). ADV suits SP cost: circa de 325,000. WHAT???? Are you saying that it takes 30 good performances to level up once? The passive SP booster is very glitched. It's just too low. ISK payout: $110,000 (good gamer). 1 COMPLETE RESTOCK $85,000!!! Is it just me, or is that lofty?? If it isn't, then please fix it. Thank you. |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2012.12.08 18:38:00 -
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Payouts have been boosted. The problem is, if you join after the match has started then you get to see 85-120 payout. In from the beginning and you should comfortably see 200k. Unfortunately, it seems sometimes it likes to repeatedly put you into games already started.
There are things you can do to save up, not running max gear every spawn being one of them.
As to the skill points, its not unreasonable to have to wait half week / week for some of the bigger upgrades. |
ATR Kuan Ti
Above The Rest
64
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Posted - 2012.12.08 18:54:00 -
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im seing in the 300k isk when I play full games thats with the booster tho |
SuperSaiyan4 Gogeta
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.12.08 18:57:00 -
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ATR Kuan Ti wrote:im seing in the 300k isk when I play full games thats with the booster tho
I'm too poor for boosters, sir. |
Bhavesh Prajapat
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
3
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:18:00 -
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I agree, I used to get 900k ISk by the end of the day but now I get dragged into buying cheaper things.
Here, Here!!! |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2012.12.09 00:29:00 -
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Play with what you can afford. Don't run all proto gear if you don't have the fps skill to make it last.
As for sp: all that matters is that it increases, the rate at which it does will be proportional to how long ccp expects the game to run. |
ECHO PACK
Wraith Shadow Guards
45
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Posted - 2012.12.09 01:57:00 -
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itll be better if they boosted it to a million nobody wants to play 3 weeks just to upgrade your dropsuits |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation
Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:58:00 -
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ECHO PACK wrote:itll be better if they boosted it to a million nobody wants to play 3 weeks just to upgrade your dropsuits
A million would be too much.
50k without diminishing results would be best. |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2012.12.09 21:27:00 -
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ECHO PACK wrote:itll be better if they boosted it to a million nobody wants to play 3 weeks just to upgrade your dropsuits
If its taken three weeks for a single upgrade, surely its a significant upgrade? Surely, that upgrade should see significant advantages over whatever you have currently and you've been gaining ISK you would need to run it consistently.
I'm not opposed to increasing skill point gains from current levels, but for the sakes of item/skill bloat, something's should be an investment. |
24601 -2
Doomheim
9
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:10:00 -
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This is basic RPG gameplay isn't? The lower levels come quick and easy while the advanced levels come at a much slower rate. If the cost was too low then you wouldn't be forced to focus on a single role in order to become good at it. I like the way it is. It makes us think about what skills we want to learn and what role we want to play on the battlefield. It gives the game depth and consequence. |
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Fluffeh Ingle
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:36:00 -
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ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:ECHO PACK wrote:itll be better if they boosted it to a million nobody wants to play 3 weeks just to upgrade your dropsuits A million would be too much. 50k without diminishing results would be best.
SP and ISK are absolutely fine where they are. Eve is a game of patience and work to get your reward. Dust is linked to that mentality. I am a HAV pilot, and I have had to specialize in to that pretty much ignoring everything else. It has taken work, but I adore the way people scramble to get out of the way then dash back with AV gear. Nothing else ellicits that response, but it took patience and hard work to get it. Exactly as it should be. |
Khulam Alkon
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:40:00 -
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24601 -2 wrote:This is basic RPG gameplay isn't? The lower levels come quick and easy while the advanced levels come at a much slower rate. If the cost was too low then you wouldn't be forced to focus on a single role in order to become good at it. I like the way it is. It makes us think about what skills we want to learn and what role we want to play on the battlefield. It gives the game depth and consequence.
this...
its the same philosophy as EVE people. I know it feels really slow but at this point we're not so much testing the balance of the skills as much as we are testing the PROGRESSION of the player. If CCP thinks we need to test more high-end stuff then they'll increase SP gain for us to get it. |
Riot Ruckus
Doomheim
56
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Posted - 2012.12.10 23:05:00 -
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SuperSaiyan4 Gogeta wrote:SP, average 10,000 a battle (for me that is). ADV suits SP cost: circa de 325,000. WHAT???? Are you saying that it takes 30 good performances to level up once? The passive SP booster is very glitched. It's just too low. ISK payout: $110,000 (good gamer). 1 COMPLETE RESTOCK $85,000!!! Is it just me, or is that lofty?? If it isn't, then please fix it. Thank you.
Also, keep in mind, that we cannot sell our salvage yet, once we are able to sell items on the market, ISK will be a lot easier to come by. |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation
Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.11 08:49:00 -
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3000 per match isn't slow.
Its a crawl.
CRAWL.
You don't get anywhere with that.
I feel discouraged to play the game when I reach that point and just wait for the end of the week. |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
320
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Posted - 2012.12.11 08:59:00 -
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Actually its too high. Don't expect to level up a skil lafter every game.
In Eve I spend a month per skill I want to upgrade now. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.12.11 10:52:00 -
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SuperSaiyan4 Gogeta wrote:SP, average 10,000 a battle (for me that is). ADV suits SP cost: circa de 325,000. WHAT???? Are you saying that it takes 30 good performances to level up once? The passive SP booster is very glitched. It's just too low. ISK payout: $110,000 (good gamer). 1 COMPLETE RESTOCK $85,000!!! Is it just me, or is that lofty?? If it isn't, then please fix it. Thank you.
Obviously you are spending far too much on your suit and then dying too much. SP and ISK gain are fine. Yesterday I had a match payout of 509k ISK. Average payouts are around 200K ISK, if you're not incompetent. So if you're only getting 110K ISK payouts, you're not as good as you think you are and should improve using lower leveled stuff.
SP and ISK gains are fine, you don't need the best stuff to win in this game, I run a type II suit and I'm slowly working my way up to Adv gear, I still come 1st on the Leaderboards constantly. If it was any easier I'd be rocking Prototype Suits, Prototype Assault Rifles, Prototype Turrets and A good Tank. within weeks of the game having just reset. This is not a sprint to get the best character, you're running a marathon and it will take time to get good stuff.
Also, Passive Boosters are fine. |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation
Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:41:00 -
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Reimus Klinsman wrote:Actually its too high. Don't expect to level up a skil lafter every game.
In Eve I spend a month per skill I want to upgrade now.
I play EVE, I am well aware of that.
But you also forget that EVE skilling is passive, and its much faster than the Dust passive skilling.
So I can put a month long skill for training and then go on a month vacation.
With Dust I have to play all that time because the passive skilling is way slower.
Now I want to get Caldari Assault Dropsuit III, it costs 348000, at the rate of 3000 SP per match, it would take me 116 matches.
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:15:00 -
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ArMaGeDoN The Cat wrote:Reimus Klinsman wrote:Actually its too high. Don't expect to level up a skil lafter every game.
In Eve I spend a month per skill I want to upgrade now. I play EVE, I am well aware of that. But you also forget that EVE skilling is passive, and its much faster than the Dust passive skilling. So I can put a month long skill for training and then go on a month vacation. With Dust I have to play all that time because the passive skilling is way slower. Now I want to get Caldari Assault Dropsuit III, it costs 348000, at the rate of 3000 SP per match, it would take me 116 matches. 116 116 116
SP Cap resets every Wednesday after the Downtime (So 11:30 GMT Wednesday) and you're able to earn 200k SP with great ease before it starts to heavily decrease. |
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