DUST Search - Please keep Mass Drivers the way they are

Tiel Syysch wrote:

Th3rdSun wrote:

Tiel Syysch wrote:

Th3rdSun wrote:

I don't use the mass driver at all,but from what I've seen of people using it,it seems to have a tad bit too much range.

If you can't dodge a mass driver round from 200m out, you're standing still or running in a straight line. The thing takes forever to travel >50m and you have all the time in the world to see it and simply move where it's not headed.

I never said that I got killed from one long range like that,and what if you aren't looking in that direction? At that point,it doesn't matter.

I didn't say you've been killed like that, it's just that it has such a ridiculous long travel time that kills at that range are rare. The mass driver having "too much range" isn't really a concern with how hard it is to hit anything at long distances, and it pretty much requires the enemy to do nothing in terms of getting out of the way. If you aren't paying attention, it doesn't really matter what weapon the enemy has, you should die for not being aware of your surroundings.

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Tbone322 D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 124	Posted - 2012.12.08 16:40:00 - [31] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: I don't use the mass driver at all,but from what I've seen of people using it,it seems to have a tad bit too much range. The range is a tricky thing with the MD, the rounds disappear after a couple hundred meters but I'm pretty sure that's just a render issue. Also while the range is long, it takes forever for the rounds to get to the target so you've really got to anticipate movement.
Second Cerberus Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2012.12.08 17:01:00 - [32] - Quote Love this weapon, but wouldn't say I'm terribly good with it. Much more fun to use than the AR but this is a squad weapon. Combined with a couple of AR's it can shred an enemy squad. Would like to see a rethink on the MD sight though, I never use the current site as it is useless for quick shots. Much prefer to eyeball it with a weapon like this.
Leovarian L Lavitz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 278	Posted - 2012.12.08 18:01:00 - [33] - Quote Second Cerberus wrote: Love this weapon, but wouldn't say I'm terribly good with it. Much more fun to use than the AR but this is a squad weapon. Combined with a couple of AR's it can shred an enemy squad. Would like to see a rethink on the MD sight though, I never use the current site as it is useless for quick shots. Much prefer to eyeball it with a weapon like this. It's a leaf sight, but they didn't complete it's function (tilting the gun back is supposed to bring the iron sight up to those little notches) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Fuchikoma2501/M79_positions2.gif
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2012.12.08 18:53:00 - [34] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: I don't use the mass driver at all,but from what I've seen of people using it,it seems to have a tad bit too much range. If you can't dodge a mass driver round from 200m out, you're standing still or running in a straight line. The thing takes forever to travel >50m and you have all the time in the world to see it and simply move where it's not headed.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.08 19:32:00 - [35] - Quote still think MD need an ammo capacity buff
Tbone322 D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 124	Posted - 2012.12.08 19:37:00 - [36] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: still think MD need an ammo capacity buff As a MD user I could get on board with this, but capacity only not magazine size. 4 is fine but 5 in a magazine would probably be OP, especially with the advanced and proto variations. I really don't want much done to the MD's because I think they're fine, and if CCP buffs them lot's of people will start using them and then the Nerf hammer will fall.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 108	Posted - 2012.12.08 19:42:00 - [37] - Quote R33F3R X1 wrote: still a noobtube imo, yh 200ft shot is nice but who kills your from 200ft with a MD, only time iv been killed by a md is people running up on me and shooting my feet. Nope. ProPipe.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2012.12.08 20:45:00 - [38] - Quote The weapon is dramatically underpowered. If killing snipers in egg shell scout suits roosting on a ledge is your triumph and glory and that's all you care about, MD if fine. But even for this there are more artful ways to kill those snipers.
1CLIP 1KILL Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 87	Posted - 2012.12.08 21:39:00 - [39] - Quote MD is great, like Alt fire for Flak Cannon. RoF/Mag size are fine. Any more than what it's @ now and you'll get so much QQ about them being too OP. What I wish they'd fix is more of a "bug". It happens with many weapons. At a certain range the Mass Driver's arc seems to stop, and it shoots in a straight line. The shell can still impact objects, but it appears to do 0 damage. Sometimes it just disappears too. Please just have the Mass Driver charge detonate at a set max time if it does not collide with any other object. Not a big change, but it'd be nice! Since many players seem to like things that are similar to what's in real life, the hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher (RPG) has a fuse that self detonates (I think RPG-7 is just over 900M). Edit: But PLEASE! Do not make them easier to use. It's not that hard right now!
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2012.12.08 22:55:00 - [40] - Quote Salazar Skye-fire wrote: i think they need a tweak to include damage for the user more if a nub shoots it 3ft in front of them in order to kill you. maybe a slight decrease in ROF but everything else is just a minor anoyance. These people are new to it with no skill points in it. When you have more levels in it it will increase range on blast radius so if you are in the radius you will get hurt. I die a lot from hitting people with it in there chest but I get hit with the blast because they are to close.

Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2012.12.08 22:59:00 - [41] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: The weapon is dramatically underpowered. If killing snipers in egg shell scout suits roosting on a ledge is your triumph and glory and that's all you care about, MD if fine. But even for this there are more artful ways to kill those snipers. It is not under powered it is just weak against shields and well shields are were it is at in this build. come across someone running armor and you will destroy it. I have no problem with heavies but their shield variants can get real tough.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.09 00:39:00 - [42] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I don't use the mass driver at all,but from what I've seen of people using it,it seems to have a tad bit too much range. If you can't dodge a mass driver round from 200m out, you're standing still or running in a straight line. The thing takes forever to travel >50m and you have all the time in the world to see it and simply move where it's not headed. I never said that I got killed from one long range like that,and what if you aren't looking in that direction? At that point,it doesn't matter.
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2012.12.09 00:46:00 - [43] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I don't use the mass driver at all,but from what I've seen of people using it,it seems to have a tad bit too much range. If you can't dodge a mass driver round from 200m out, you're standing still or running in a straight line. The thing takes forever to travel >50m and you have all the time in the world to see it and simply move where it's not headed. I never said that I got killed from one long range like that,and what if you aren't looking in that direction? At that point,it doesn't matter. I didn't say you've been killed like that, it's just that it has such a ridiculous long travel time that kills at that range are rare. The mass driver having "too much range" isn't really a concern with how hard it is to hit anything at long distances, and it pretty much requires the enemy to do nothing in terms of getting out of the way. If you aren't paying attention, it doesn't really matter what weapon the enemy has, you should die for not being aware of your surroundings.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.09 02:26:00 - [44] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I don't use the mass driver at all,but from what I've seen of people using it,it seems to have a tad bit too much range. If you can't dodge a mass driver round from 200m out, you're standing still or running in a straight line. The thing takes forever to travel >50m and you have all the time in the world to see it and simply move where it's not headed. I never said that I got killed from one long range like that,and what if you aren't looking in that direction? At that point,it doesn't matter. I didn't say you've been killed like that, it's just that it has such a ridiculous long travel time that kills at that range are rare. The mass driver having "too much range" isn't really a concern with how hard it is to hit anything at long distances, and it pretty much requires the enemy to do nothing in terms of getting out of the way. If you aren't paying attention, it doesn't really matter what weapon the enemy has, you should die for not being aware of your surroundings. Fair point I guess,I just feel like if the effectiveness at that long of a range is nonexistent,they what's the point?
RECON BY FIRE BetaMax. 51	Posted - 2012.12.09 05:56:00 - [45] - Quote How does everyone feel about the mass drivers damage against vehicles? Ive fired multiple rounds at basic LAVs and had barely anything happen to them. Seems like they dont do as much to vehicles as they should.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.12.09 06:02:00 - [46] - Quote So I counter sniped a sniper with a mass driver today. I think it was around 250- 300 meter kill.


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