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ImMortal SoLDieR X
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:55:00 -
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OK folks alot of talk going on about AR's. Lets get down to the business of separating our wepons and what they should be compared too. The only weapon that is in the same class as the AR is the Laser. All you laser guys (all 10 of you lol) feel free to chime in.
Statement......... The AR is KING of Mid range !!!!!
Question............ What are we comparing it to, a scrambler pistol, a smg, a mass driver ? what weapon? Please be specific, all you number crunchers pls show me the numbers.
Conclusion............ AR should be the go to weapon for Mid Range capabilities and efficiency. Up close and personal the SHOTGUN or SMG should and does rule ask any SCOUT, with a shotty and COMPLEX RED BATTERIES, about that comparison.
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ImMortal SoLDieR X
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Posted - 2012.12.07 20:51:00 -
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Your comment has some intrigue. I would correct your statement about CLOSE to mid range for the AR.. and the one about BAD POST.
The assault rifle is NOT, i repeat, is NOT a close quarter weapon and its not meant to be. So what realism are you living in. Is this a comparison of Midrange weapons or just bad scrutiny.
Basically what im getting at is when the AR is "compared" to other weapons, what are we comparing it to? Im trying to SORT that out first so we can discover why the question of nerf or not has popped up. It could be, that the clone is not prepared proprerly when he beams down to the planet. Which would also mean better choices in dropsuit configuration and management is in order for some individuals. Thats another topic for another time.
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Posted - 2012.12.07 21:04:00 -
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I dont want a nerf to the AR for the record. I want a real side by side comparison with other mid range weapons in its class here!! plz show me the numbers and keep to this topic.
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ImMortal SoLDieR X
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Posted - 2012.12.08 05:33:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The problem isn't that they dominate their specialty, it's that they dominate where they aren't supposed to dominate.
Better at mid-long range than laser rifles.
Better at short range than SMGs
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I think we are getting somewhere, After reading all of the above ive sorted out this one post. Is this the main reason for the topic of NERF the AR or not?
Question 1...................Should the Laser get a lil buff ?
Question 2...................Should the SMG get a lil buff?
I wanna see some numbers where are those number crunchers, the guys that break down the stats. We need your expertise right now. lets talk in a way that CCP can understand guys, they understand numbers lets give it to them. How much is a lil buff?
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ImMortal SoLDieR X
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Posted - 2012.12.08 08:12:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:ARs need recoil, which CCp said they're working on already.
They don't need a nerf. Other guns don't need a buff. ARs just need to be tweaked slightly to make them work as ARs instead of lasers with equal damage to armour and shields.
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KOOL, but i feel the SMG needs to be a lil stronger. Maybe 23-25 hp per hit. Right now the toxin is at 20hp. Im going to look at all the numbers for the SMG and update after i study them.
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:15:00 -
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Teach me how to pull out 1 line for a quote Michael, plz. Nice post by the way. +1 from me. You said No?!! The AR is not KING the LASER is. Tell me about the LASER Mike. Give me your comparison I wanna know why you said that. Explain pls.
Looking at the way the SMG skills up. You have to sink alot of skill pts into it, Atm to get to lvl 1 PROFICIENCY, (where you start to receive dmg @ 3% per lvl), you must skill up OPERATION to lvl 5, (just like all operation skill sets). Has any one skilled up this Operation to lvl 5? If you have, I wanna hear from you on if it really improves this gun. Making it worth while to sink SP into this weapon.
Right now i dont think its worth it, and with that type of investment maybe the DMG part should come first and then DISPERSION and KICK. What do you think? If the dmg comes first then the 3 point increase of Hp dmg from 20 (making it 23), might not be necessary.
But we agree? That the SMG needs a tweak not the AR nerfed, to keep the AR from dominating in AREAS it shouldn't.
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