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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.12.03 16:30:00 -
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Who exactly do you think deserves "penalties" and what kind?
1. You, for getting yourself killed? You already got penalised. You died, and had your tank stolen.
2. The enemies? Why? For successfully killing you and stealing your tank? What did they do to deserve these penalties? Or did you mean their subsequent death? For which they were penalised by dying already...
I'm not seeing any problems here, except that, if they were awesome with your tank after stealing it, they wouldn't get to keep it. But the fix for that is a REWARD, not a PENALTY. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.12.03 16:36:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Who exactly do you think deserves "penalties" and what kind?
1. You, for getting yourself killed? You already got penalised. You died, and had your tank stolen.
2. The enemies? Why? For successfully killing you and stealing your tank? What did they do to deserve these penalties? Or did you mean their subsequent death? For which they were penalised by dying already...
I'm not seeing any problems here, except that, if they were awesome with your tank after stealing it, they wouldn't get to keep it. But the fix for that is a REWARD, not a PENALTY. I dont think you read the begining properly. I mentioned "Blue dots"... Not that stupid to let enemies steal a tank and i dont need to be outside of the tank to Frago an objective... Please read first before you write smart comments.
Oh, right. So you left your tank when you could have gone to the map to mark the objective, and that's somehow your teammates' fault?
Cool story.
Also, how'd a blue dot crush you? There's no friendly fire... |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.12.03 17:50:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Again! Didnt i mention that "I was waiting for it" ? Please read the whole thing first before you start acting like you know it all.
No friendly fire? Didnt i also mention "Crushed"? Well its kinda funny cause they killed me with an LAV at the base spawn point at the very begining of the game (Without Jumping out of the LAV). Not complaining about loosing a tank. I was just wondering if there's going to be any kinda penalty implemented in the game for this kinda behaviour. Most games have it. If this is how this game is supposed to be played, then I dont have any problems acting accordingly.
1. No friendly fire means you don't get crushed by a friendly vehicle driving into you, only if it gets dropped on you somehow. So again, how did they achieve that?
2. I'd rather see the game REWARD YOU for giving the tank to a teammate than see it punish them for taking what was left.
3. Do you have any indication that they ran you over deliberately with full knowledge that you'd called in a tank? Because I seriously doubt they had, and the nearby teammates NOT using the tank would probably have turned out worse (enemies hack it, then use it against you).
4. Either you took WAY too long marking the objective, or you were kind of stupid to have been trying to mark it while you had a tank on the way. Also, if you got crushed, you almost HAD to be in a terrible position to be doing whatever you were doing that had you unaware enough not to see a friendly jeep on the minimap.
P.S. sorry about the reading comprehension. It's almost 7am, and I'm not used to being up this late. I've usually been in bed before sunrise lately. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.12.04 15:18:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:
1. No friendly fire means you don't get crushed by a friendly vehicle driving into you, only if it gets dropped on you somehow. So again, how did they achieve that?
Do not be so naive. It's extremely easy to kill allies through friendly fire. We might not be able to do direct damage but there are some weapons that can harm things using its splash. Ramming someone into a wall will eventually crush them (including if you "ram" into them with your suit) and if you know how to do it, you can drive your vehicle and crush as many blue dots as you want. I'll show you sometime, okay?
I was meaning specifically with LAVs, as explained in the example.
And I've since found that, while driving straight into someone doesn't work, crushing them against something, dropping your LAV on the other player, or jumping out before it hits, can all work to kill people. At the time, I hadn't seen them done, or experimented much for myself, and only knew about crushing by dropping the LAV on someone (either by getting air on the right angle or by having the LAV land on them because they weren't watching your RDV (seeing that was hilarious, btw). |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:36:00 -
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Tzaar Bomba wrote:Ok since no one seems to understand ill summerize.
NAV call in tank, team mates use LAV to kill NAV to steal his tank. Garret Blacknova no understand situation. NAV mad nova no understand, and saying irrelevant things.
Yes you can kill team mates, the same way you do on battlefield 3 hop into a different seat of the vehicle as you head towards a team mate. Its cheap and should be punished.
There, cleared
Pretty good summary of the thread so far, although you missed the part where I came back after sleeping, realised I'd been an incoherent mess and apologised. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:47:00 -
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Tzaar Bomba wrote:Sleep deprivation is no excuse for rudeness. Just like getting drunk is no excuse for beating your wife. Shouldn't have posted if you didnt understand, especially after you were corrected. At any rate missed it.
Sleep deprivation is plenty of reason for misreading things though. And really, that's the core of where I went wrong.
And not sure why you're bringing domestic violence up in comparison with a minor misunderstanding that got resolved pretty peacefully. That's more rude than anything I've EVER posted in these forums - even the posts I've edited out afterwards because I knew I was taking things too far. |
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