SERIOUSLY **** off claiming everything is overpowered. these are weapons. they are designed to kill. at the rate everybody is demanding everything is nerfed, by launch time we'll be throwing cuddly toys at each other and crying to devs when we trip over that ******* shoelace we didnt tie. then claim the ******* shoelaces are OP.

STOP BEING ******* ********.

STOP CLAIMING EVERYTHING IS ******* OVERPOWERED.

yes things need balanced.

no, everything that doesnt work the way you personally imagine it IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO ******* NERF EVERTYTHING.

every day its another thread demanding to nerf something else. go ******* play with your teddy bears. leave us our ******* guns while we're still allowed to ******* shoot them.

Anyone thought HP might just be too low instead of all weapons damage being too high?

I assume people are unhappy about many mechanics in this game because many aspects of the game are extremely situational.

If you hypothetically approached a standing enemy starting from 300 meters you could mark at every step of the way which weapons are good at this range, which are okay and which suck. Generally only one weapon will be good and very few weapons will be okay. That means the outcomes of fights are mostly determined by situation and less by personal effort. Dust is, compared to other shooters, a lot about situational awareness and positioning.

This explains why the common assault suit + assault rifle loadout is so popular - it provides propably the most versatility you can have in one loadout. However, it too is rather useless against snipers, shotguns and tanks in specific situations, which is why people complain about those situations. They dislike being unable to affect the outcome of an encounter, even if the encounters are very seldom.

One remedy to this would be to slightly nudge all weapons (and vehicles, btw.) towards a more similar performance in most situations. Of course the different weapons should still be obviously different, but they shouldn't be so useless that you can only engage in 1 out of 3 possible encounters you spot.

I assume people are unhappy about many mechanics in this game because many aspects of the game are extremely situational.

If you hypothetically approached a standing enemy starting from 300 meters you could mark at every step of the way which weapons are good at this range, which are okay and which suck. Generally only one weapon will be good and very few weapons will be okay. That means the outcomes of fights are mostly determined by situation and less by personal effort. Dust is, compared to other shooters, a lot about situational awareness and positioning.

This explains why the common assault suit + assault rifle loadout is so popular - it provides propably the most versatility you can have in one loadout. However, it too is rather useless against snipers, shotguns and tanks in specific situations, which is why people complain about those situations. They dislike being unable to affect the outcome of an encounter, even if the encounters are very seldom.

One remedy to this would be to slightly nudge all weapons (and vehicles, btw.) towards a more similar performance in most situations. Of course the different weapons should still be obviously different, but they shouldn't be so useless that you can only engage in 1 out of 3 possible encounters you spot.

For people who dont read.........the problem was that the militia shotgun is 1 shotting proto suits with over 600 eHP. And I am not even talking about from the back to the head I am talking about you turn a corner some guy is looking at your chest they fire you die despite the fact that you have a suit with a ton of HP and they are using a free weapon. All over weapons actually seem about right to me. ARs are a good fit for a variety of situations but a master of none. Pistols are headshot fiends. Lasers are awesome long rang beasties. Snipers are good at superlong range (although hitscan is kinda lame for them or most of these weapons). Only minor tweaks are needed for weapon balancing but one of those tweaks needs to be the militia shotgun that OHKs proto assaults and 2HKs heavies with almost twice the eHP of the proto assaults.

The only real flawded weapon imo is the SMG that doesnt even fullfill efficiently its niche role. Its spread is way too big, when its hip fire at short range should be extremely accurate and with very little recoil.
SMG's cone and recoil needing to be lowered. Range enhanced.

I like the idea of an SMG buff but in the right hands (cest moi ) it can be pretty beasty. I would however like to see less spread and more range though.

which is why you pick your loadout based on whats going on on the map, and if necesary change at a supply depot if there are any. if not, then pick something more appropriate to get your revenge with.

Btw, you french ?

As a class the SMG is a light, short barreled weapon with an extremely high RoF.

Thus it will naturally have high dispersion and recoil. Low mass means they bounce all over and are difficult to keep on target. They are typically used more to "spray" and suppress an area than to lay a lot of rounds into a single target.

As such it's obvious they aren't well suited to high health combat.

I'm sure that the OP has a point and that it's not just whining about people whining, but I read: HEY GUYS! ********************************* ************ ********* **** ******* and your little dog too!

Player count is under powered!
With the low player count all weapons seem OP.

If anything we should be asking CCP to give us a higher player count.