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Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:47:00 -
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Its there for a reason guys!
when your in warbarge or done loading join Team Chat channel to help your teams.
Proper communication between groups can sway any battle !
please guys takes 2 seconds try it out! |
Dro2072
Doomheim
35
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:49:00 -
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Can you use your mic amd if so do you need a UVT to do so? if this is a stupid question so be it i would still appreciate an answer and thank you. |
Blue Buggs
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
19
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:50:00 -
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Dro2072 wrote:Can you use your mic amd if so do you need a UVT to do so? if this is a stupid question so be it i would still appreciate an answer and thank you.
Corp and squad chats dont need a UVT iirc. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:56:00 -
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Tired of blue dots mindlessly running around and trying to shoot things down. There are hardly any friendlies on Team Chat. We should make it a CORP policy to switch to Team chat when the game starts. We can help the new players and other squads and make a difference. |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:56:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:Its there for a reason guys!
when your in warbarge or done loading join Team Chat channel to help your teams.
Proper communication between groups can sway any battle !
please guys takes 2 seconds try it out! Quick gloves, you Sir are an enigma!
Sometimes ( most times honestly) your posts are garbled unintelligible gibberish. Then, out of the blue, you post a clear concise on-target missive. +1 for readable text
+2 for posting sober!
Join voice comms mercs. Good post QG |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:57:00 -
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Dro2072 wrote:Can you use your mic amd if so do you need a UVT to do so? if this is a stupid question so be it i would still appreciate an answer and thank you.
you need a mic just activate it turn off your PTT an join Team chat no UVT needed@! |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:57:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Quickgloves wrote:Its there for a reason guys!
when your in warbarge or done loading join Team Chat channel to help your teams.
Proper communication between groups can sway any battle !
please guys takes 2 seconds try it out! Quick gloves, you Sir are an enigma! Sometimes ( most times honestly) your posts are garbled unintelligible gibberish. Then, out of the blue, you post a clear concise on-target missive. +1 for readable text +2 for posting sober! Join voice comms mercs. Good post QG
LOL |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
91
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:58:00 -
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I go into Team chat but no one ever uses it. I am beginning to think most are on Corp chat too as when in a squad with one or more randoms, they have a mic icon but no outgoing comms on the Squad channel. It's ironic how we have so many ways to vocally chat in DUST but most appear to be limiting themselves to only their own immediate corp. |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:59:00 -
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Dro2072 wrote:Can you use your mic amd if so do you need a UVT to do so? if this is a stupid question so be it i would still appreciate an answer and thank you.
Personally i would have tried to join team chat and saw what happened before asking but, no you don't need a uvt, its just like squad chat and corp chat.
Join Team chat so i can yell at you for sniping from the red line when we have 1 or no points or for not dropping uplinks with me. :D |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.11.29 15:01:00 -
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I agree it would be better if people were on team comms more often. But imo, the problem is elsewhere: indeed, we lack various stuff such as :
- quick request ( ammo, support, etc..) - Proxy chat at least inside a team to ease local comm - SL being able to easily communicate with their peers. Pushing select, activating Team, discussing, going back to squad is waaaaaaay tooooooooo looooooooooooooooong
Cause team chat is all good and nice. but it's not good. 16 people talking altogether is more confusing in battle than groups of 4 able to communicate properly.
Got to give MAG credits for its comm system in battle. Copy Paste it to Dust would be great. |
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Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.11.29 15:05:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=45273
Already a thread on it which a member of your corp. made. Alot of reasons discussed.
To Reiterate:
Our squads always chat... in squad chat (or corp to talk smack to each other). Why don't we use team chat? Because none of the randoms listen to advice and go off trying to be Rambo in militia gear. |
Dro2072
Doomheim
35
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Posted - 2012.11.29 15:07:00 -
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jariel lol i don't snipe....ever and don't drop uplinks either, i am a full time medic/assault though. i was only asking because we all know someone was bound to and that question being the very 1st response makes it hard to miss........i hope anyway. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
898
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Posted - 2012.11.29 15:17:00 -
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Better yet, give us friendly proxy chat. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.29 16:17:00 -
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bump so newbs c it! |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.29 16:54:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:I agree it would be better if people were on team comms more often. But imo, the problem is elsewhere: indeed, we lack various stuff such as :
- quick request ( ammo, support, etc..) - Proxy chat at least inside a team to ease local comm - SL being able to easily communicate with their peers. Pushing select, activating Team, discussing, going back to squad is waaaaaaay tooooooooo looooooooooooooooong
Cause team chat is all good and nice. but it's not good. 16 people talking altogether is more confusing in battle than groups of 4 able to communicate properly.
Got to give MAG credits for its comm system in battle. Copy Paste it to Dust would be great.
MAG comms were great because it designated leadership to a few people who are able to relay orders so that everyone can hear. whether it is PL or OIC. Not sure how that system can be implemented here unless someone is given a comm channel that overrides all or forces everyone to hear, whether they are in corp chat or squad chat.
But I can only imagine that the Battle Commander (in dust..forgot what the title will be. But the one controlling the installations from the sky) will be able to have that sort of power. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.29 17:31:00 -
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Dubbs good pont! |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.29 17:53:00 -
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Welp, If I'm soloing you'll find me on Team Comms, but be prepared to mute me when I start yelling about blue dots not doing anything useful ;) |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.29 18:18:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Welp, If I'm soloing you'll find me on Team Comms, but be prepared to mute me when I start yelling about blue dots not doing anything useful ;)
This is my point if a true leader used the team coms you wouldnt need to rage ! USE TEAM COMMS AN WIN! |
843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2012.11.29 18:29:00 -
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843 has now switched to Team Chat for in-game communication. We've done this for two reasons, one is to work with other corps/randoms during the battle and second, to promote our corp and get recruits that have mics.
Some corps are too cool to use team chat, but for all the others that want to work together, we'll be on team chat. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2012.11.29 20:57:00 -
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Team chat is more for the players not squaded up to 3or 4. If you're fully squaded up and know how to play there isn't much reason to be on Team chat, you should be able to adapt to the battlefield.
STB has started to run comms in Team to help organise random players and to help the community out that doesn't go to the forums. So to those that run solo or with a buddy try to turbo on your team chat, yes I might be on and yes I might be yelling why no one is doing anything and I apologise in advance but we do try to help out those that are willing. |
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VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
149
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Posted - 2012.11.29 21:15:00 -
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you have my support good post QG. |
RayRay James
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.11.29 21:19:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:
16 people talking altogether is more confusing in battle than groups of 4 able to communicate properly.
Not sure I agree with this comment. I've been in fleet fights with 200+ in comms and had no issues. If people only spoke when they had pertinent information relating to the fight and not "OMG, I love spam" "Me toooooooooo" "ZOMG, Spam rulez" it's not a problem.
Keep the irrelevant BS Chat out of the comms when in the fight, save it for between matches. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.29 22:59:00 -
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Team chat is always constant background nose and/or pointless conversations, and no actual coordination. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:51:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Team chat is always constant background nose and/or pointless conversations, and no actual coordination.
this comment shows your inept ability to control a unit aka team. Now if you think im attacking you im not listen closely.
To command a unit of multiple personalities an ideas you must show a level of comprehension an prove to the unit your capable of command.
If they continue to discredit you an ignore, your either the victim of casual gamers or gamers that think they are better then you. If you think a group of 16 people are unrestrainable then i am regret to inform you that should not be apply for leadership roles.
You must command respect when in a leadership role.
I have run groups of over 100 people in MAG, Zion leaders have run groups of similar sizes as well as PRO RND an many more. 16 people in a group should never be considered diffucult to manage.If you need silence then Command the COm's to be cleared. Step up to the plate an be the ALPHA. You want to lead you have to show your worthy! |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:53:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:
16 people talking altogether is more confusing in battle than groups of 4 able to communicate properly.
Not sure I agree with this comment. I've been in fleet fights with 200+ in comms and had no issues. If people only spoke when they had pertinent information relating to the fight and not "OMG, I love spam" "Me toooooooooo" "ZOMG, Spam rulez" it's not a problem. Keep the irrelevant BS Chat out of the comms when in the fight, save it for between matches.
This is not EVE. This is DUST 514, due to being a console game, it's going to be accessible for many different age groups of ranging maturities
- You will have people bitching at their families - You will have kids crying about dying - You will have people trying to take charge over one another - You will have a lot of communication for different locations - You will have people shouting "HELP!" with no additional info, repeatedly. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:55:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Team chat is always constant background nose and/or pointless conversations, and no actual coordination. this comment shows your inept ability to control a unit aka team. Now if you think im attacking you im not listen closely. To command a unit of multiple personalities an ideas you must show a level of comprehension an prove to the unit your capable of command. If they continue to discredit you an ignore, your either the victim of casual gamers or gamers that think they are better then you. If you think a group of 16 people are unrestrainable then i am regret to inform you that should not be apply for leadership roles. You must command respect when in a leadership role. I have run groups of over 100 people in MAG, Zion leaders have run groups of similar sizes as well as PRO RND an many more. 16 people in a group should never be considered diffucult to manage.If you need silence then Command the COm's to be cleared. Step up to the plate an be the ALPHA. You want to lead you have to show your worthy! Here's your mistake: you assume I'm using a mic and trying to organize these idiots. In actuality, I'm trying to listen for some plans. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:59:00 -
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So your original post now holds no crediablity.
If you don't try to help the casue then it is your issue when you dont enjoy the outcome |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:02:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote: So your original post now holds no crediablity.
If you don't try to help the casue then it is your issue when you dont enjoy the outcome
So... you're saying everyone who doesn't own a mic, even being willing to listen and work with people who DO have mics, are always the problem and not the idiots WITH the mics?
You sir, are a complete idiot. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:07:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Quickgloves wrote: So your original post now holds no crediablity.
If you don't try to help the casue then it is your issue when you dont enjoy the outcome
So... you're saying everyone who doesn't own a mic, even being willing to listen and work with people who DO have mics, are always the problem and not the idiots WITH the mics? You sir, are a complete idiot.
So when you decided to respond did you even look at your post?
You claim that a squad of 16 is unmangable, yet you then say "I DONT HAVE A MIC!"
So how do you know if they are managable or if you can manage them.
An i never said anything about other people i posted something directed at you since you were complaining. I offered you a solution based on my expertise, hence me running a 600 + member succesful corp
yet you decided my information false an unjustified. So sir.. My point was made with your response an good day to you. Enjoy bieng the blue dot n nothing more |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:10:00 -
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i am going to bed now so take your time coming up with a valid arguement good night |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:24:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Quickgloves wrote: So your original post now holds no crediablity.
If you don't try to help the casue then it is your issue when you dont enjoy the outcome
So... you're saying everyone who doesn't own a mic, even being willing to listen and work with people who DO have mics, are always the problem and not the idiots WITH the mics? You sir, are a complete idiot. So when you decided to respond did you even look at your post? You claim that a squad of 16 is unmangable, yet you then say "I DONT HAVE A MIC!" So how do you know if they are managable or if you can manage them. An i never said anything about other people i posted something directed at you since you were complaining. I offered you a solution based on my expertise, hence me running a 600 + member succesful corp yet you decided my information false an unjustified. So sir.. My point was made with your response an good day to you. Enjoy bieng the blue dot n nothing more Did YOU read my post? I said nobody tries to coordinate anything. They just talk about nothing while there's a lot of background noise. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:29:00 -
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yet you decided my information false an unjustified. So sir.. My point was made with your response an good day to you. Enjoy bieng the blue dot n nothing more[/quote] Did YOU read my post? I said nobody tries to coordinate anything. They just talk about nothing while there's a lot of background noise.[/quote]
my arguement is that many of us try to coordinate ever match
u suck right now.. i have alchol poisioning i tihnk an i keep having to lay down, puke, try to calm down then repeat pattern.. .i really dont wanna argue right now.. i give up on this arguemnt with this statemant
USE TEAM CHAT OR DIE TRYING! |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:34:00 -
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Let's sum this up: I'm saying that I listen to team chat, but nobody says anything useful.
You meanwhile, are making up reasons not to respond. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:39:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Let's sum this up: I'm saying that I listen to team chat, but nobody says anything useful.
You meanwhile, are making up reasons not to respond.
???
Really bro? I gave multiple reasons an dont feel like continuing the argument
Team Chat uses properly can change the tide of the battle this thread was made saying that no one uses the chat properly but you over looked that
I am encouraging people to use it not looking for excuses. You want to troll go ahead but dont spin in circles while crossing the street casue i will run you over
So for review
This thread states not many people use Team chat properly i encourage others to use it an i explain why its important, then i tell you nicely im going to bed
So again USE TEAM CHAT OR DIE TRYING! |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.30 02:07:00 -
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Good squads usually stick to squad chat. They work together, and ignore the rest of the team. Then they come here and complain about blue dots being idiots when, in many cases, being active in team chat would have allowed them to COMMUNICATE with the blue dots - or at least some of them - and coordinate things better. |
ZE DUKE
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.11.30 13:10:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Good squads usually stick to squad chat. They work together, and ignore the rest of the team. Then they come here and complain about blue dots being idiots when, in many cases, being active in team chat would have allowed them to COMMUNICATE with the blue dots - or at least some of them - and coordinate things better.
agreed !! USe team chat an the meat shields might learn somthing an win for once |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.11.30 18:59:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:I agree it would be better if people were on team comms more often. But imo, the problem is elsewhere: indeed, we lack various stuff such as :
- quick request ( ammo, support, etc..) - Proxy chat at least inside a team to ease local comm - SL being able to easily communicate with their peers. Pushing select, activating Team, discussing, going back to squad is waaaaaaay tooooooooo looooooooooooooooong
Cause team chat is all good and nice. but it's not good. 16 people talking altogether is more confusing in battle than groups of 4 able to communicate properly.
Got to give MAG credits for its comm system in battle. Copy Paste it to Dust would be great. MAG comms were great because it designated leadership to a few people who are able to relay orders so that everyone can hear. whether it is PL or OIC. Not sure how that system can be implemented here unless someone is given a comm channel that overrides all or forces everyone to hear, whether they are in corp chat or squad chat. But I can only imagine that the Battle Commander (in dust..forgot what the title will be. But the one controlling the installations from the sky) will be able to have that sort of power.
Well, like you said it needs to have SL being able to quickswitch to a "SL chat" and then the commander that would be able to "talk to all" or "talk to SL". In fact, as he'll be playing a RTS, he should also have "Talk so squad X" and "talk to player X".
But i think a "SL chat" accessible easily. Why not an addition to the R2 menu ? Hold R2, point a chat icon, switch to SL chat. Hold R2, point icon again => back to squad chat. And voila, you have a MAG inspired comm system in battle. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.11.30 19:25:00 -
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Had a good time today with alot of PRO guys using chat coms even a few randoms surprised me on team comms KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS! |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
898
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Posted - 2012.11.30 19:30:00 -
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I think the fact that we have to switch back and forth is a big problem. I think we need squad chat and then a way to broadcast team-wide and kill off teamchat. This way all of the useless stuff would be minimized.
Some ideas on dealing with coms
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=301711#post301711
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=44744&find=unread
EDIT: That said I'll see about rolling some rounds in team chat and see what happens.
ALSO, why the kitten isn't voice enabled by default? |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1032
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Posted - 2012.11.30 19:34:00 -
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I am not allowed on team chat. I have little understanding for players going 1/7, 2/11, 0/9, 1/5, and will let them know it. I have gone christian bale on blues before.
If you are that bad a player with imperfects on your team you should just stop playing that instant, delete dust, give your ps3 to a blind kid, and cut your hands off so no one has to carry your terrribad scrub self in a match again. You will be donig us all a favor. think of the rest of us.
So yeah you want me on team chat? |
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Ghost-33
ShootBreakStab
108
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Posted - 2012.11.30 20:31:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Team chat is always constant background nose and/or pointless conversations, and no actual coordination. this comment shows your inept ability to control a unit aka team. Now if you think im attacking you im not listen closely. To command a unit of multiple personalities an ideas you must show a level of comprehension an prove to the unit your capable of command. If they continue to discredit you an ignore, your either the victim of casual gamers or gamers that think they are better then you. If you think a group of 16 people are unrestrainable then i am regret to inform you that should not be apply for leadership roles. You must command respect when in a leadership role. I have run groups of over 100 people in MAG, Zion leaders have run groups of similar sizes as well as PRO RND an many more. 16 people in a group should never be considered diffucult to manage.If you need silence then Command the COm's to be cleared. Step up to the plate an be the ALPHA. You want to lead you have to show your worthy!
I think someone hacked QG's account. I only find four misspelled words and it makes perfect sense. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.30 22:17:00 -
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So I've been on teamchat quite a bit, found nobody and when I do there yelling over one another and generally being muppets. Personally, I'm not interested in rounding them up and leading them to a glorious victory, I'm here to enjoy myself not chase after a bunch of people that seem to lack common sense.
Back to Soloing in silence.
________________________________________ This post is the opinion of Jason Pearson and does not represent Seraphim Initiative in any way whatsoever Should you feel offended, please speak with Jason Pearson directly so he can amend this issue We thank you for your cooperation.
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Dissonant Zan
157
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Posted - 2012.11.30 22:19:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:So I've been on teamchat quite a bit, found nobody and when I do there yelling over one another and generally being muppets. Personally, I'm not interested in rounding them up and leading them to a glorious victory, I'm here to enjoy myself not chase after a bunch of people that seem to lack common sense. Back to Soloing in silence. ________________________________________ This post is the opinion of Jason Pearson and does not represent Seraphim Initiative in any way whatsoever Should you feel offended, please speak with Jason Pearson directly so he can amend this issue We thank you for your cooperation.
**** off you ******* |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.12.01 05:59:00 -
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BUMP |
Ghost-33
ShootBreakStab
108
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Posted - 2012.12.01 15:58:00 -
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Don't say bump, the forum National Socialism Ideology Party's will start citing the forum rules. Doing it like this is better.
And i don't know if everyones game is like this but when I'm soloing it automagically dumps me into team chat. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.12.01 16:21:00 -
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Ghost-33 wrote:Don't say bump, the forum National Socialism Ideology Party's will start citing the forum rules. Doing it like this is better.
And i don't know if everyones game is like this but when I'm soloing it automagically dumps me into team chat.
lol ty |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
327
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:27:00 -
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Some witty comment to remind you to use your team comms! |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
222
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Posted - 2012.12.01 19:39:00 -
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I normally use my corp channel so yeah |
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