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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:01:00 -
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I pwn with my SMG especially them silly shotgunners and heavies but I nwould definitely like to see a range increase and reduced recoil. SMGs are supposed to have a lighter spread and thats why they are the most prefered weapon in any CQC situations. But at my sidearm sharpshooter at profiency 2 only can I do some serious damage. |
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:38:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:In CQC, a slightly WIDER cone is actually more beneficial than the tight grouping with the AR though.
Huh? Seen a lot of combat for your expert opinion? SMGs are supposed to be center mass. Ever fired an uzi or mp5? They are dead accurate at 30 feet in burst mode or FA mode. However the accuracy does reduce over time in FA mode and thats because no one can handle the recoil for that long. Your hands start shaking.
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:45:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:When running around with a SL your job is AV. You shouldn't be able to dominate too much with the SMG, even in close range.
FOS. Unless you are a logistics you always have a sidearm slot. Why shouldnt you dominate a CQC situation with an SMG?
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Up against a shotgun, you should lose.
LOL and LMFAO. Tell that to all those shotgunners I shot in the face with my Toxin.
SMGs are really reliable weapons. Once you get your proficiencies up they can be used in beast mode. I am quite happy with the way they are right now. But I would love a range increase and reduced spread.
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:59:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Well then why don't you and everyone else use that instead of the AR and other weapons?
Oi! Mav has pointed out something about SMGs that no one has pointed out about. He is doing his due deligence by pointing out an observation he made during his "beta testing". This is more than what you are doing which is trolling this post to kingdom come! None of your posts are constructive. The whole objective is to test different weapons and report bugs/feedbacks (if any) to CCP.
Comprende?
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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:02:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:WHEN PLAYING VIDEOGAMES, a wider cone of fire is better - to a certain point - for CQC.
Huh? Lolwut? If you are trying to take down an elephant or dinosaur maybe. In which world is a wider cone better for CQC? You dont try to use an elephant gun to shoot a bunny. Thats ridiculous!
CQC in anything is center mass.
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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:07:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:None of my posts are constructive? How about my first where I said the SMG could use a slight boost?
A slight boost aint constructive. A slight boost in what? Power? Ammo? Range? Accuracy? Recoil? If you are gonna be constructive you can say "The SMg could use a slight boost in range and power". Or something like that. Take your pick.
And thats why I said none of your posts are constructive.
You also said a SMG should not be able to take a guy with an AR. Seriously? If I get the drop on an AR dude or take on a noob with Light Weapon Sharpshooter Level 1 with my Sidearm Prociency level 3 you mean to tell me he should take me down?
Just writing a line out saying i want this or dont want that is not constructive. It needs more meat like a fat chick.
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:18:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:I haven't used the SMG in 2-3 builds, so I can't give indept feedback on what kind of improvement it needs. From what I've seen on my end though, I think it could use some kind of boost. A slight one as I said.
Gotta love it when people shoot themselves in the foot. Quite honestly if you have used a SMG in the past 2-3 builds why are you even on this post? Its a feedback, not a general discussion.
For anyone to give feedback on a weapon or item or equipment they should have had to use it. And not if you get killed by it. Its like me saying that the Duvolle is OP because I get killed almost everytime by it.
Talking about something you havent used in 2-3 builds is just trolling to me.
Just my 0.02 AUR 
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:40:00 -
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"Centre Mass" is a term used in gravity not in weapons combat. "Center Mass" is the appropriate term to be used in weapon combat. It is also called as grouping. It is the largest distance between 2 bullets that have been fired. I would rather have my center mass smaller than larger. This means I am firing more bullets within the same circle and thats how SMGs are and should be in CQC situations. I want my bullets to the maximum damage it can in the shortest possible time and thats why SMGs are popular for that. Creating a spread looses this feature and hence the purpose. If I am shooting someone in the face, I want my Center Mass to be that persons face and not anything else in CQC and hence I dont need cones or spreads.
It ya need tips on how to use a gun is RL I can give you some. My grouping is 3 cms at 100 ft with 10 rounds using an AR15  |
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:56:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:That's nice. I'm a published game reviewer. If you need advice on understanding how videogame weapons work, try reading the post immediately above yours for an explanation of why CQC in gaming isn't the same as CQC in the real world.
Awh cool dude! I am a published photographer and a combat vet. I have also spent the past 20 years of my life gaming to know that game reviewers know jack about what they write and most of the time are biased. And as far as understanding how gaming weapons work, DILLIGAF? If I wanted to understand how gaming weapons work I would be a gaming dev not a gamer. I am pointing out how a sub mach should work vs how someone thinks it should work.
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:58:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:
By the way, "centre mass" is a shorthand phrase used in combat to refer to the easiest point of aim - literally, the centre of the target's mass. On a human body, this is the middle of the torso, and is a "safe" place to aim for when an inexperienced shooter wants to be relatively sure of actually hitting the target.
Wiki much? |
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