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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:05:00 -
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You have to remember the SMG is a sidearm.
With that said I do agree that the SMG could use a SLIGHT boost. It should never be able to beat a shotgun at close range though. I don't like that it should ALWAYS beat an AR at close range, but it should be able to do it sometimes yeah. |
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:34:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:if ur gonna have swarm launchers as a primary weapon then u NEED a good 2ndary weapon that can at least hold its own against infantry in its ideal situation
When running around with a SL your job is AV. You shouldn't be able to dominate too much with the SMG, even in close range.
Up against a shotgun, you should lose. Up against a sniper or a laser in close range, you will win.
Now, you're saying that when people get the jump on you with a SMG you still kill them. What are you using and what are they using? If you're in an advanced suit with a high-tier AR and they are in milita suit with a low-tier SMG, then of course you win?
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:46:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:agree with shotguns thats how they work cqc one to 2 shots and they win
im using the blindfire and doesnt matter the suit since for the majority of the past 2 builds ive been using standard stuff as infantry only
and disagree with ur swarm comment just because their primary job is AV that means they must be terrible at taking out infantry/defending themselves?
whats the main running complaint from ppl? omg tanks are OP they are OP because ppl dont want to skill into AV when its a situational role, they rather skill into assault + AR and kill sure its different in corps but for the solo player he wont waste his time on AV, hell ppl got a FREE OP militia swarm fit and yet my lolarmor tank survives most pubs when in theory the ENTIRE enemy team can swap to the most OP hated thing for an armor tanker for FREE and rid me off the field easily.....but they dont. You can take out some infantry with your SMG?
Do you expect to faceroll all infantry though, just because you have a SMG and are in close range?
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:59:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:and even in that situation ARs will still win most times unless the person is bad In the OP you said the SMG should ALWAYS beat an AR at close range. |
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:12:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:and even in that situation ARs will still win most times unless the person is bad In the OP you said the SMG should ALWAYS beat an AR at close range. if both ppl can aim then in cqc the smg should have the slight advantage due to rof and better spread ppl still havent answered why an assault rifle has better spread than an smg it makes no sense There's a difference in having a slight advantage and beating an AR every time. |
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:12:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:the scrambler pistol is better than most primary weapons
Well then why don't you and everyone else use that instead of the AR and other weapons? |
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:01:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Well then why don't you and everyone else use that instead of the AR and other weapons? Oi! Mav has pointed out something about SMGs that no one has pointed out about. He is doing his due deligence by pointing out an observation he made during his "beta testing". This is more than what you are doing which is trolling this post to kingdom come! None of your posts are constructive. The whole objective is to test different weapons and report bugs/feedbacks (if any) to CCP. Comprende? None of my posts are constructive? How about my first where I said the SMG could use a slight boost? Though I was concerned about what kind of boost Mavado wants on the SMG, so I also stated that he has to remember the SMG is still only a sidearm. |
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:12:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:None of my posts are constructive? How about my first where I said the SMG could use a slight boost? A slight boost aint constructive. A slight boost in what? Power? Ammo? Range? Accuracy? Recoil? If you are gonna be constructive you can say "The SMg could use a slight boost in range and power". Or something like that. Take your pick. And thats why I said none of your posts are constructive. You also said a SMG should not be able to take a guy with an AR. Seriously? If I get the drop on an AR dude or take on a noob with Light Weapon Sharpshooter Level 1 with my Sidearm Prociency level 3 you mean to tell me he should take me down? Just writing a line out saying i want this or dont want that is not constructive. It needs more meat like a fat chick. I haven't used the SMG in 2-3 builds, so I can't give indept feedback on what kind of improvement it needs. From what I've seen on my end though, I think it could use some kind of boost. A slight one as I said.
Read my posts. I've only said a SMG shouldn't ALWAYS take out an AR in close range, which the OP actually said it should. |
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:27:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:I haven't used the SMG in 2-3 builds, so I can't give indept feedback on what kind of improvement it needs. From what I've seen on my end though, I think it could use some kind of boost. A slight one as I said. Gotta love it when people shoot themselves in the foot. Quite honestly if you have used a SMG in the past 2-3 builds why are you even on this post? Its a feedback, not a general discussion. For anyone to give feedback on a weapon or item or equipment they should have had to use it. And not if you get killed by it. Its like me saying that the Duvolle is OP because I get killed almost everytime by it. Talking about something you havent used in 2-3 builds is just trolling to me. Just my 0.02 AUR Oh so because I don't have any experience in using a SMG for the past builds, I can't give any feedback on my experience of going up against them?
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